Ahhh, the other resident sewage expert.
In this one thread, already, I have brought more pertinent historical facts to bear than you have in perhaps your entire time on this site.
Hmmm, I was born under Carter. So from that point on...probably Reagan. Though there was the whole Iran-Contra thing which I believe is technically treason.
A recent Pew Poll has shown that President Obama is clearly chosen as best president in the respondents' replies:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/11/obama-president-clinton-reagan-trump-713627
It might be interesting to see how DP stacks up with the general population. In keeping with the Pew Poll method, you may pick two of the presidents listed below as being the best in YOUR lifetime.
Being limited to 10, I listed Kennedy....that should have been Johnson. Perhaps for purposes of this poll we can view that as one administration?
That and the intentional escalation of debt instead of pay as you go taxation are why I put Ronnie third instead of 2nd (I've lived through 11 of them).
Clinton by far the best: Peace, great economy, US respected worldwide
Obama distant second: No scandals except the faux Republican ones. Decent economy, global respect for US as beacon of hope.
Horrible:
Trump: destroying the economy and America's good standing
Bush Jr: Destroyed the economy and gave us a black eye with the waterboarding and shoving broomsticks up a prisoner's ass
Carter: Great guy, bad leader
Meh:
JFK: maybe he would be great if not shot; getting shot is why so many think he is great.
Johnson: Would have been great if not for Vietnam
Nixon: Almost pulled off great, but for that Watergate thing.
Ford: Was he a president?
HW: Reminds me of American food: bland and mushy
Sewage expert? Correct! I do, after all, read your posts.
You haven't brought any that support your asinine assertion though.
Please try again, but try harder this time.
Sorry, I couldn't vote for any. :no:
My heart wanted Kennedy, but to be honest I was a kid when he was elected and thus subject to the positive atmosphere his election brought to America. But he really didn't serve long enough to prove his merit before his assassination.
While I voted for Obama when he ran for President, swept up in the hope he would be "something special," I can't think of anything he actually did that I can say I supported wholeheartedly. I can think of several that I did not support (his caving to the "Black outrage" over Trevon Martin for one, which IMO led to all this BLM 'whites want to kill blacks' narrative). So in no way is he "the best" either.
Trump is only in his second year, and while I support many of the things he's accomplished, and those he has tried to, I am also unhappy with his "bull in a china shop" methodology, so I can't in good conscience vote him the best...I need to see how his administration pans out.
I supported President Nixon back in the day because he got us out of Vietnam via a peace agreement (people tend to forget there WAS a peace agreement during the Paris accords), got 18 year-olds the right to vote, and a few other things. But that all went out the window with Watergate. Can't vote for him either.
Ford and Carter were "non-entities" in office. That is not "best" material.
Reagan started off well, and his hard line with Russia while working with Gorbachev on glasnost finally ended the cold war and the Soviet Union fell. However, he lost his faculties somewhere just prior to his second term and it was his wife and advisors who were really running the show then.
Bush Sr. was pretty straight-forward, and while I did not want us to go to war with Iraq, I agreed that we had a valid treaty obligation with Kuwait and had to do something. Other than that I didn't see him do much during his Presidency except keep pushing the Reagan doctrines.
Clinton was not trustworthy, while Bush Jr. was not only a goof controlled by Dick Cheney, but he got us steamrolled into another war which has yet to end and has been going on longer than any other conflict the US was ever involved in.
So I have to vote OTHER. I don't feel any President on that list was "the best," only the "least worst." :shrug:
Was trying to bring it down to your level... get out your binoculars, look up...I am way up here. :2wave:
I would take Carter over Trump in a heartbeat.
As for Nixon...man, I know, Watergate. But in the modern era that would hardly have even been a thing. Plus he opened relations with China, he got us out of Vietnam, he created the EPA. I know he was a paranoid bastard...but in 2018, I'm ready to forgive that. Let's clone Nixon and put him back in office.
He did a LOT more bad **** than just Watergate.
He purposefully created the WOD as a poltical weapon against the left, and all the havoc and destruction that it's wreaked on our country.
He interfered in peace negotiation in Vietnam and lengthened the war, causing millions of deaths, to say nothing of the secret bombings of Cambodia.
The man was a paranoid megalomaniac with all the morals of an ice weasel on speed.
**** him and **** him memory.
Lulz. Standing on an imaginary pedestal of your own making again?
Sorry you couldn't back up your claim about Obama.
'Twas ever thus.
Obama was the best, or most liked? It says Obama was most favored in the younger generation, which tells me they are basing it on personality. Based on personality, I totally agree.
Woosh.
I would take Carter over Trump in a heartbeat.
As for Nixon...man, I know, Watergate. But in the modern era that would hardly have even been a thing. Plus he opened relations with China, he got us out of Vietnam, he created the EPA. I know he was a paranoid bastard...but in 2018, I'm ready to forgive that. Let's clone Nixon and put him back in office.
Yeah, I got it … you've got nothing. Never thought you'd admit it.
Slendermans numerous and monstrous failures methodically taken apart by his better are readily apparent for all to see. Well, one does have to be able to scratch up at least a modicum of common sense.
wtf is this supposed to mean?
wtf is this supposed to mean?
You cant read and process simple sentences either? Wow. My condolences.