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    Re: Should women have the right, as they do now, to decide whether or not to use birth control pills

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post


    Believe whatever you want. I truly do not care.
    I don't actually care about your views either, but I was trying to have a civil debate on the subject. If you're not interested in that, OK.

    My basic point here is that we have decades of the Republican party promising to repeal Roe, and we know there is a vast and well funded legal effort to appoint judges to make that happen, and the SC is about to get a majority of conservatives on the court, with RBG subject to also being replaced.

    I don't think it's a good assumption for anyone to assume that Roe is forever and ever safe in the face of a well financed effort by very smart and capable individuals to do the opposite.
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    Re: Should women have the right, as they do now, to decide whether or not to use birth control pills

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Oh FFS

    Yeah, with the Kavanaugh appointment and a possible Ginsburg replacement in the not too distant future I foresee women's right to vote being repealed, mandatory pregnancy and a ban on women's shoes other than Oxfords. You read it here first!
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    Re: Should women have the right, as they do now, to decide whether or not to use birth control pills

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    And if the birth control pills cause abortions, and abortions are outlawed as many want, what then?
    Dunno. Since abortions aren't outlawed, and it is highly unlikely that they will be except in a few areas around the country, I don't have to think about what then.
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    Re: Should women have the right, as they do now, to decide whether or not to use birth control pills

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I don't actually care about your views either, but I was trying to have a civil debate on the subject. If you're not interested in that, OK.

    My basic point here is that we have decades of the Republican party promising to repeal Roe, and we know there is a vast and well funded legal effort to appoint judges to make that happen, and the SC is about to get a majority of conservatives on the court, with RBG subject to also being replaced.

    I don't think it's a good assumption for anyone to assume that Roe is forever and ever safe in the face of a well financed effort by very smart and capable individuals to do the opposite.
    Then you should 1) correctly characterize what I say, and 2) don't repeat yourself as though I hadn't already addressed it.

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    Re: Should women have the right, as they do now, to decide whether or not to use birth control pills

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    Re: Should women have the right, as they do now, to decide whether or not to use birth control pills

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    As the nation may well face the reversal of Roe v. Wade additional concerns are being expressed, one is birth control. Frankly I hadn't thought about it but I suppose it is a logical concern. Is it a logical concern?

    The question then is: Should women have the right, as they do now, to decide for themselves whether or not to use birth control pills?
    Should taxpayers have the choice not to pay for someone else's birth control?
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    Re: Should women have the right, as they do now, to decide whether or not to use birth control pills

    Quote Originally Posted by SDET View Post
    Should taxpayers have the choice not to pay for someone else's birth control?
    As much choice as we had not to pay to bail out Wall Street.








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    Re: Should women have the right, as they do now, to decide whether or not to use birth control pills

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    There are always going to be people who want XYZ banned.

    The vast majority of people are perfectly fine with most or all contraceptives. Saying that there's a chance women will be denied the right to birth control is ludicrous. There's no rational pathway for that to happen.
    The vast majority of people want to keep Roe vs. Wade, 70%, but it is endangered now, regardless. I don't find it impossible that the same pro-lifers could criminalize some birth control, such as the morning after pill for instance. Read The Handmaid's Tale, and recognize that it could happen here. Author Margaret Atwood said all events in the book had already happened in some place.
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    Re: Should women have the right, as they do now, to decide whether or not to use birth control pills

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    The vast majority of people want to keep Roe vs. Wade, 70%, but it is endangered now, regardless. I don't find it impossible that the same pro-lifers could criminalize some birth control, such as the morning after pill for instance. Read The Handmaid's Tale, and recognize that it could happen here. Author Margaret Atwood said all events in the book had already happened in some place.
    We should make a drinking game out of this. Handmaid's Tale --- drink!

    Anyone who claims that the US is turning into that kind of totalitarian theocratic government is supremely unhinged and delusional.


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    Re: Should women have the right, as they do now, to decide whether or not to use birth control pills

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    If you spray enough insect repellent on your junk it will work effectively as a method of birth control.

    I do not have the statistics but we might well assume that a significant number of working women aren't making big bucks. In fact, we already know that women are often paid less than men (same job, same qualifications). Who usually raises the children when parents become divorced? Who often doesn't get proper or any child support? As a result women often carry a greater financial burden than men. Women working for low wages likely can't afford to pay $50.00 a month for birth control or $1,000 for an IUD plus the cost to see a doctor as well.

    Bottomline: Decisions concerning birth control should involve only a woman and her doctor. Someone else's religion should never be a factor.
    It is not a matter of religion - folks can and should pay for their own routine medical care without any mandate for outside help.
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