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Do you have a problem with LEGAL immigration?

Do you have a problem with LEGAL immigration?

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I think in the midst of these conversations about immigration, the lines are getting blurred. Just saying "Well, this country was built by immigrants" as some sort of defense against the current argument --- it's not a good one because those were LEGAL immigrants. Maybe people actually think that most people on the right don't want any immigrants at all. Hmmm... thus, this poll.

So - do you have a problem with LEGAL immigration? Please explain in the comments.
 
No, obviously not. There are those people that are all "Go back to where you came from! We don't want you here!" and the like, but I'm confident in saying that most people don't have a problem with it.
 
Nope. If it weren't for immigration, out country would stagnate and die.
 
absolutely not

in fact, i want the visa program updated

maybe we can add a few more to the lists every year

maybe make it a little less expensive, and a little easier to get here
 
As it currently exists, yes. Of course merit based immigration is important to any society. Given citizenship due to a "Diversity lottery system" is insane. Family "chain migration" is also insane. We're right on this, as to the fact that these programs do absolutely nothing for the safety, security and overall benefit to a nation.

You see, the fact that lefters emote about these issues is the reason that they are so wrong. It's also the reason that lefters are seen as insane.
 
Based on my own personal experiences there are "some" who do not want ANY immigrants in this country and would rather we all go back to where we came from. Do I think that is the majority of American's? - NO. But I have experienced this type of discrimination and been told a few times to get on that boat back to where I came from even though I didn't come here on a boat -LOL Sure..I can make light of it and laugh at the ignorance of some people but I would be lying if I said the comment didn't sting.
 
Josie said:
I think in the midst of these conversations about immigration, the lines are getting blurred. Just saying "Well, this country was built by immigrants" as some sort of defense against the current argument --- it's not a good one because those were LEGAL immigrants. Maybe people actually think that most people on the right don't want any immigrants at all. Hmmm... thus, this poll.

So - do you have a problem with LEGAL immigration? Please explain in the comments.
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I think we need to make legal immigration easier, but we need to be selective.
From a cultural perspective, I think the US would be better served to encourage immigration from Canada and Mexico.
Current legal immigration is a long and cumbersome process, and too expensive for most people.
The bottom line is that we need to keep our population growing, and since we are not producing as many children,
we need immigration.
 
I think part of the problem is that every time someone who "looks like" an immigrant is in the news, certain people automatically assume the person is illegal.
 
I think we need to define a few things about our safety net.

1. Penalize the bejeesus out of anyone caught knowingly employing illegals. Go after the CEO, Germany style.

2. Don't allow section 8/ebt/snap/food stamps, etc to anyone who has been working in the country less than 5 years. Time spent working under a legal visa would count towards the 5 year rule.

3. Increase number of immigrants allotted per year, per country. Put in an express line based on criteria that includes skill set, work history, and education.
 
longview said:
I think we need to make legal immigration easier, but we need to be selective.
From a cultural perspective, I think the US would be better served to encourage immigration from Canada and Mexico.
Current legal immigration is a long and cumbersome process, and too expensive for most people.
The bottom line is that we need to keep our population growing, and since we are not producing as many children,
we need immigration.
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The problem with immigration from Canada an other Western European countries is that those people have the least to gain from immigration to the US and is therefore a hard sell for many, because the only thing you can offer most of them is a bit of a salary increase, maybe. The vast majority just have no desire or reason to move to the US.

Also how US law works make being American a massive liability if they ever want to return to their home country.
 
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beancounter said:
I think part of the problem is that every time someone who "looks like" an immigrant is in the news, certain people automatically assume the person is illegal.
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That's because, in some areas of some states, illegal immigrants aren't a minority anymore.
 
Carjosse said:
The problem with immigration from Canada an other Western European countries is that those people have the least to gain from immigration to the US, because the only thing you can offer most of them is a bit of a salary increase, maybe. The vast majority just have no desire or reason to move to the US.

Also how US law works make being American a massive liability if they ever want to return to their home country.
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I suspect there may be some Canadians who would come to the US if the option were available.
I think Mexico is more likely.
 
Josie said:
I think in the midst of these conversations about immigration, the lines are getting blurred. Just saying "Well, this country was built by immigrants" as some sort of defense against the current argument --- it's not a good one because those were LEGAL immigrants. Maybe people actually think that most people on the right don't want any immigrants at all. Hmmm... thus, this poll.

So - do you have a problem with LEGAL immigration? Please explain in the comments.
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I don't have a problem with legal immigration...however, I do have a problem with some aspects of our current legal immigration law.

I have concerns as to whether some who are allowed to immigrate here are adequately vetted about possible national security risk. I prefer to bring in people who are able to support themselves as opposed to those who will be a drain on our public resources.

Legal immigration is a good thing for any country to embrace, but the country needs to be smart about it.
 
straykatz said:
Based on my own personal experiences there are "some" who do not want ANY immigrants in this country and would rather we all go back to where we came from. Do I think that is the majority of American's? - NO. But I have experienced this type of discrimination and been told a few times to get on that boat back to where I came from even though I didn't come here on a boat -LOL Sure..I can make light of it and laugh at the ignorance of some people but I would be lying if I said the comment didn't sting.
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Just ignore them. I have a friend that did come over on a boat as a child with her mother. They were well off before, but everything was taken from them. She said they had the clothes they were wearing. Unfortunately her father was murdered. She is a citizen now and a professional, but is still traumatized by it.
 
longview said:
I suspect there may be some Canadians who would come to the US if the option were available.
I think Mexico is more likely.
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Some but not that many, and there would be Americans wanting to do the opposite as well. Believe it or not the rest of the developed world is not scrambling to live in the US. And the ones that would probably see the most benefit from moving to the US are not going to with Trump as president.

You would probably see 1 Canadian for every 100 Mexicans.
 
KevinKohler said:
That's because, in some areas of some states, illegal immigrants aren't a minority anymore.
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I am not sure that is true, in Houston the Hispanic population is likely near 50%, but almost all of 50% are
people who were born here or are legal. We do have a large number of illegal immigrants, but no where near a majority.
https://statisticalatlas.com/place/Texas/Houston/Race-and-Ethnicity
Bear in mind that most of this data likely comes from the census, and most illegals do no respond to the census.
 
Carjosse said:
Some but not that many, and there would be Americans wanting to do the opposite as well. Believe it or not the rest of the developed world is not scrambling to live in the US. And the ones that would probably see the most benefit from moving to the US are not going to with Trump as president.

You would probably see 1 Canadian for every 100 Mexicans.
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What matters is that the path is open, right now we need the population, and even
if someone wanted to come, it would be difficult.
 
I voted depends. I favor legal immigration, but the determining factor must be how the prospective immigrant can help the US, not why the US should help them.

We are way too far down the rabbit hole of being the worlds dumping ground for other nations problems. And that is no longer desirable or sustainable.
 
Yes I support legal immigration. As others have said it needs to be expanded and made simpler, quicker and easier.

Three fourths of my team are from India, either ex-pats living in the US or people working in India. Two of them are here on H1B visas and are trying to get green cards. One's been working on getting his since 2010. The other was in Tampa but returned to India because to be with her husband and child. She's been here - and working on getting permanent resident status - since 2013 and had simply grown tired of only seeing her husband and son twice a year.
 
Yes, I do have a problem with immigration as it currently is; the system if broken.

I believe the entire system needs a huge overhaul and updating....its understaffed, too paperwork heavy, the selection process is prone to abuses, and the process as a whole is too long.
 
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The administration and Senator Tom Cotton do.
 
Polar Bum said:
Yes, I do have a problem with immigration as it currently is; the system if broken.

I believe the entire system needs a huge overhaul and updating....its understaffed, too paperwork heavy, the selection process if prone to abuses, and the process as a whole is too long.
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But do you have a problem with people coming here legally?
 
I've got no problem with legal immigration. I think it should be expanded and brought up to date. The "Dreamers" should be granted citizenship, and green card & guest worker programs expanded. I think the aid should be offered to Mexico to help clean up it's crime and corruption, to help make it more livable; rather than insulting it constantly.
 
Not at all, what I have a problem with leftists conflating illegal immigration with legal immigration, attempting to paint those opposed to the former as those opposed to the latter in order to dismiss them as xenophobes or racists. Its very dishonest and does not at all help actual victims of racism.
 
No, I think people should be able to immigrate to America if they are good, smart, and hard working people... Merit based immigration.

Why? It allows the country to benefit from the best and the brightest from all around the world...
 
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