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Will Annapolis shooting change opinions about the media?

Will Annapolis shooting change opinions about the media?

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Atomic Kid said:
See my post #23 and add this to it.

"Jarrod W. Ramos @ErichartleyFrnd . 11 Mar 2015

Correction @shaunanadamec: bad journalist. But dying is a touchy subject for him. Just go about your business as Clinton's Press Secretary."
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So ****ing pathetic. You and others would drag through 4 years of texts to find ANY comment and claim AHA!!! TRUMP!!!

This had NOTHING to do with Trump. Your desperate pathetic attempts to make it so, dont.
 
VanceMack said:
So ****ing pathetic. You and others would drag through 4 years of texts to find ANY comment and claim AHA!!! TRUMP!!!

This had NOTHING to do with Trump. Your desperate pathetic attempts to make it so, dont.
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Hey somebody has to do it. There is also this tweet from Ramos.

"Jarrod W. Ramos @ErichartleyFrnd . 18 Feb 2015

If Bob represented terrorists (and he does), this would be his defense when @Charlie_Hebdo sues the **** out of him."

Obviously an anti-Muslim terrorist reference. One of President Orange's favorite targets when he isn't attacking the media. And while we're at it let's add this one too.

"Jarrod W. Ramos @ErichartleyFrnd

Innocence can be subjective. "NOT DOING JOURNALISM PROPERLY IS A CRIME"? Do brave unethical journalists dare discuss?"
 
Atomic Kid said:
Hey somebody has to do it. There is also this tweet from Ramos.

"Jarrod W. Ramos @ErichartleyFrnd . 18 Feb 2015

If Bob represented terrorists (and he does), this would be his defense when @Charlie_Hebdo sues the **** out of him."

Obviously an anti-Muslim terrorist reference. One of President Orange's favorite targets when he isn't attacking the media. And while we're at it let's add this one too.

"Jarrod W. Ramos @ErichartleyFrnd

Innocence can be subjective. "NOT DOING JOURNALISM PROPERLY IS A CRIME"? Do brave unethical journalists dare discuss?"
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Gosh, I wonder how you get the crazy ideas you do about the 25th Amendment. Oh, right; that's not political.
 
VanceMack said:
So ****ing pathetic. You and others would drag through 4 years of texts to find ANY comment and claim AHA!!! TRUMP!!!

This had NOTHING to do with Trump. Your desperate pathetic attempts to make it so, dont.
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And what do we have here? Yet another politically oriented tweet by Mr Ramos.

"Jarrod W. Ramos @ErichartleyFrnd . 11 Jan 2015

Terrorists targeted the WTC for it's symbolism. "We will never forget," * but 7 years later McCain and Obama were debating "Main vs Wall St."

So it appears that this dude was triggered not only by journalists, but Muslim extremism as well. Mr Trump's two favorite subjects!
 
Harshaw said:
Gosh, I wonder how you get the crazy ideas you do about the 25th Amendment. Oh, right; that's not political.
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Crazy idea? It's in the Constitution isn't it? Maybe the crazy part to you is that someone actually read the damn thing.
 
Atomic Kid said:
And what do we have here? Yet another politically oriented tweet by Mr Ramos.

"Jarrod W. Ramos @ErichartleyFrnd . 11 Jan 2015

Terrorists targeted the WTC for it's symbolism. "We will never forget," * but 7 years later McCain and Obama were debating "Main vs Wall St."

So it appears that this dude was triggered not only by journalists, but Muslim extremism as well. Mr Trump's two favorite subjects!
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Good God, YES! Only Trumpkin fanatics and neo-Nazis of the most virulent racist stripe could possibly have raw emotions about the 9/11 attacks! YOU'VE CRACKED THE CODE!!!!
 
VanceMack said:
So ****ing pathetic. You and others would drag through 4 years of texts to find ANY comment and claim AHA!!! TRUMP!!!

This had NOTHING to do with Trump. Your desperate pathetic attempts to make it so, dont.
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Let's throw this one on top of the pile as well.

"Jarrod W. Ramos @ErichartleyFrnd

Surprise? @ChiefKevinDavis was appointed by a Democrat spy and joined at the hip with a (C word) exiting @AnneArundelSAO."

Democrat spy? Wonder where I have heard that before? Exiting (C word)? Wonder who that could been in reference to? The Donald hit a home run with this guy.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
The guy had a long time feud with the local media... Lots of people here are angry at the national media. This case shows that anger taken to the extreme. So will you continue to be angry with them, or will you perhaps look at things a little bit differently?
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In spite of the “By any means necessary” credo, it is improper to murder those who you disagree with.

I never thought I’d see the day when I’d have to actually say that, only because the bar for violence is dropping daily.

Everyone seems to be getting information from each other’s cyphers because the truth is “redacted”.
 
gdgyva said:
compare that to when i was a kid

and the most trusted man in America was Walter Cronkite @ CBS news

just how far have we fallen in 40+ years?
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IMO it first started to get out of hand with the MSM having a soft spot for Obama but geez
with the Republicans sending up McCain & Romney as the competition I could hardly
blame them.

But there is no doubt about it they hate Trump far more than they loved Obama.
Trouble is ahead!
 
Atomic Kid said:
Let's throw this one on top of the pile as well.

"Jarrod W. Ramos @ErichartleyFrnd

Surprise? @ChiefKevinDavis was appointed by a Democrat spy and joined at the hip with a (C word) exiting @AnneArundelSAO."

Democrat spy? Wonder where I have heard that before? Exiting (C word)? Wonder who that could been in reference to? The Donald hit a home run with this guy.
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See my post #76
 
Atomic Kid said:
I would explain to you but I know that there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that you would ever be able to get it. So carry on with the blissful ignorance.
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If you cant explain your own stupid statements, then you shouldnt make them.
 
Fletch said:
If you cant explain your own stupid statements, then you shouldnt make them.
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I'm not here to fix stupid, so if you need some help go look somewhere else.
 
haymarket said:
Yes, and that was the point of it. It is sick and deplorable when mass shootings like this take place its just a moment in time and then we all move. I was hoping somebody would get the black humor.
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I wasn't commenting on you personally. I presumed that you were quoting some cretinous political or public figure that had actually said that.

That you weren't quoting someone else, and made the comment yourself, gives me pause.

The first problem with the reaction to mass shootings, is that we all see them and talk about them as mass shootings and not what they are; mass murder. The second problem is by being misguided by the first problem, we focus on the tool (gun) used, and not the person that committed the murders and why they did so. The third is that political groups use these tragedies to promote their particular political agenda, whether that agenda is banning guns, or putting a gun on the hip of every teacher. The fourth problem is that since we do the first, and find ourselves deflecting blame away from the root cause in the second, and very power and well funded groups do the third, we as a nation are focusing our valuable resources, protest time, and political capital on the wrong problem, which is the lack of proper mental health treatment and other actual and realistic causes of such horrific events.

We as a society must find a balance between everyone's 4th Amendment Rights and the need to identify and get treatment for people like the murderer at Capital Gazette office. Forced commitment into a mental institution (forced detention) of those with mental health issues that are a real and present danger to the public is a touchy subject when you bring into the discussion their 4th Amendment protections. You can't just lock someone up, because someone else said they were a threat, or some police officer saw a social media post that sounds dangerous. If we could, there would millions of Americans in metal institutions.

As I said, we have to find a balance between personal freedom and rights, and public safety. You can't have either one totally unfettered, and also have the other. Public safety inherently reduces personal freedoms and rights; an unrestricted society is chaos and to completely suppress and oppress societal rights and freedoms is the ultimate in government controlled public safety.
 
Beaudreaux said:
I wasn't commenting on you personally. I presumed that you were quoting some cretinous political or public figure that had actually said that.

That you weren't quoting someone else, and made the comment yourself, gives me pause.

The first problem with the reaction to mass shootings, is that we all see them and talk about them as mass shootings and not what they are; mass murder. The second problem is by being misguided by the first problem, we focus on the tool (gun) used, and not the person that committed the murders and why they did so. The third is that political groups use these tragedies to promote their particular political agenda, whether that agenda is banning guns, or putting a gun on the hip of every teacher. The fourth problem is that since we do the first, and find ourselves deflecting blame away from the root cause in the second, and very power and well funded groups do the third, we as a nation are focusing our valuable resources, protest time, and political capital on the wrong problem, which is the lack of proper mental health treatment and other actual and realistic causes of such horrific events.

We as a society must find a balance between everyone's 4th Amendment Rights and the need to identify and get treatment for people like the murderer at Capital Gazette office. Forced commitment into a mental institution (forced detention) of those with mental health issues that are a real and present danger to the public is a touchy subject when you bring into the discussion their 4th Amendment protections. You can't just lock someone up, because someone else said they were a threat, or some police officer saw a social media post that sounds dangerous. If we could, there would millions of Americans in metal institutions.

As I said, we have to find a balance between personal freedom and rights, and public safety. You can't have either one totally unfettered, and also have the other. Public safety inherently reduces personal freedoms and rights; an unrestricted society is chaos and to completely suppress and oppress societal rights and freedoms is the ultimate in government controlled public safety.
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You make some good points.
 
Let's hope that your reality of "not even double digits" is never the criteria for coverage of a mass shooting.
For "Great", our standards are stupid low.
haymarket said:
How did this story even get any coverage when the death toll was not even double digits?
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Whythink said:
Let's hope that your reality of "not even double digits" is never the criteria for coverage of a mass shooting.
For "Great", our standards are stupid low.

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I completely agree.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
The guy had a long time feud with the local media... Lots of people here are angry at the national media. This case shows that anger taken to the extreme. So will you continue to be angry with them, or will you perhaps look at things a little bit differently?
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Nothing will change. People will judge the media by its honesty or lack thereof, just as they judge virtually everything else in their lives.

The vast, VAST majority understand that dislike of certain media outlets does not lead to mass shootings -- it takes a special nut.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
The guy had a long time feud with the local media... Lots of people here are angry at the national media. This case shows that anger taken to the extreme. So will you continue to be angry with them, or will you perhaps look at things a little bit differently?
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I judge them by their seemingly never ending stream of falsehoods, mischaracterizations, and obvious attempts at manipulation.

The people in Annapolis reported on a perfectly ordinary legal proceeding, and they didn't do anything wrong, so I feel sorry for them for running afoul of that nut case. I feel sorry for a person out playing a game of golf who gets hit by lightning. This stuff happens. That has nothing do to with the media's overall credibility.
 
The media brought this hate on themselves. Still, it does not justify murder. But the MSM has been discredited. Very few people turn to them anymore for their news. Because it isn't just the news, it is always infused with opinions. I don't need them telling me how I should feel about an issue. That's what's turned people off. And that's why people have turned them off.
 
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