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Report: Trump Insisted Crimea Is "Russian" Because Crimeans Speak Russian (G7)

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Litwin said:
in reality pro- Muscovite parties have had never more than 4% . thats why you guys gave power in Crimea to Goblin and his Salem gang , which have had 3%
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Okay we understand.. you live in a fantasy world. It was not a pro Russian president that was elected in 2010, where Crimea voted 60+% for him.. yea.. Lets see...

2010 elections gave the following

Party of Regions 48.93% of the vote... Pro Russia party..
Soyuz Party 5.6% of the vote.. Pro Russia party..
Russian Unity 4% of the vote... Pro Russia party..

And there was more.. but already here you have almost 60% of the parliament being pro Russian. So why are you lying? Who do you work for? The neo nazis?
 
PeteEU said:
Okay we understand.. you live in a fantasy world. It was not a pro Russian president that was elected in 2010, where Crimea voted 60+% for him.. yea.. Lets see...

2010 elections gave the following

Party of Regions 48.93% of the vote... Pro Russia party..
Soyuz Party 5.6% of the vote.. Pro Russia party..
Russian Unity 4% of the vote... Pro Russia party..

And there was more.. but already here you have almost 60% of the parliament being pro Russian. So why are you lying? Who do you work for? The neo nazis?
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Olgino you have missed all your lessons , "Party of Regions " was an Ukrainian oligarch party . it was a pro - oligarch and pro - criminal . it was not a "RUSSSIAN" PARTY AS YOU WROTE at the beginning of you BS
 
Rogue Valley said:
Trumps premise about Russian spoken in Crimea is soooo stupid. Almost everyone in Ukraine can understand/communicate in Russian.

There is also a blended language (Surzhyk) of Ukrainian and Russian that everyone understands. No Mr. Trump, language doesn't equate to ownership.

It is truly embarrassing having such a dumb **** as president.

Since the illegal annexation, 200,000 ethnic Russians have been imported into Crimea. There are currently 89 Tartars and Ukrainians in Russian prisons for protesting the illegal Russian takeover of Crimea . All churches in Crimea except the Russian Orthodox Church have been declared foreign agents. Crimea used to be a tourist mecca. Now it's a giant military base. The indigenous Tartar people (Muslim) are constantly persecuted (so they will voluntarily go into exile on mainland Ukraine).
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+1 Surzhyk is a form of Ukrainian language, much like Trasianka in Bielarus´
 
bearpoker said:
IIRC Crimea was given to the Ukraine by Stalin. It was a kind of good will gesture to make nice after he murdered so many Ukrainians. The people of Crimea were never consulted.
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It was Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev who felt an affinity to Ukraine. His decision to gift Crimea to Ukraine in 1954.
Khrushchev was either born in Ukraine or close to the Ukraine border in Russia.

Of course Crimea is part of Russia & they will never consider giving it back!!!!!!!

Almost immediately after ultra right wing Ukranian Nationalists overthrew Yanukovich the entire
Ukraine navy had “defected” in the Crimea region, pledging allegiance to its unrecognised pro-Russian
leader and surrendering the country's Sevastopol headquarters.

Victoria Nuland who BO had in charge of state in Europe was hoping for a Kiev Maiden for years
spending huge amounts of US dollars to provoke it. Nuland was a lunatic - a neocon lunatic.
She still hasn't recovered after Putin slapped her on the face with Crimea changing hands
quicker that one can say peninsula.If her tongue were any more forked it could
be laid on the table next to a knife and spoon.'

It was 100% obvious what Crimea would do after the coup:
The freedom fighters realized this & would not stand for it. You should understamd this too.

'In the last legitimate Ukie election the following Provinces voted accordingly:
Crimea Yanukovich 78.24% Tymoshenko 17.31%
Donetsk region Yanukovich 90.44% Tymoshenko 6.45%
Luhansk region Yanukovich 88.96% Tymoshenko 7.72%
 
WCH said:
Yea, the UN was suppose to protect the Ukraine if they gave up their nukes. See how that went?
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UN ? what about USA and UK in "The Budapest Memorandum " agreements ?

The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances refers to three identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994, providing security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. The memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers, the Russian Federation, the United States of America, and the United Kingdom. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.[1]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
 
HERA the Stars said:
Well by Trump's standards I guess that means America and Australia belongs to Britain since both speak predominantly English

I'll vote Traitor... he's mafioso and his loyalty is not with America
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and 1/3 of Canada to France
 
WillyPete said:
Man, after all this time the U.S. is still British?
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according the traitor´s "logic" - yes

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WCH said:
We have the same problem with illegal aliens.
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Oh really?

We have an active insurgency attempting to reconquer the western US for Mexico?

Any proof of that?
 
DarkWizard12 said:
apparently, 97% of crimeans agree: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014
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\Held by the Russians
Do you think these elections were free and fair?
From your link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014

The referendum requested local populations whether they wanted to join Russia as a federal subject, or if they wanted to restore the 1992 Crimean constitution and Crimea's status as a part of Ukraine. After the events of Euromaidan, the referendum was held during a Russian military takeover of Crimea.[3][4] The referendum was not internationally recognized by most countries.[5]

The March 16 referendum's available choices did not include keeping the status quo of Crimea and Sevastopol as they were at the moment the referendum was held. Historically, the Crimean parliament has on multiple occasions attempted to trigger this referendum, every one of which was stopped by the larger Ukrainian government. The 1992 constitution accords greater powers to the Crimean parliament including full sovereign powers to establish relations with other states; therefore, many Western and Ukrainian commentators argued that both provided referendum choices would result in de facto separation from Ukraine.[6][7][8]
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PeteEU said:
Okay we understand.. you live in a fantasy world. It was not a pro Russian president that was elected in 2010, where Crimea voted 60+% for him.. yea.. Lets see...
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I don't know what planet you inhabit, but Viktor Yanukovych was decidedly pro-Russian.
 
Rogue Valley said:
I don't know what planet you inhabit, but Viktor Yanukovych was decidedly pro-Russian.
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well, he was kind of "pro-Russian." only because he (and his "party) was a criminal, and Muscovite OZERO IS THE BIGGEST criminal gang in the world , from what i know Yanukovych (zek, yanuk) was just a typical gang leader of the Dombass gang family
 
slick said:
Jimmy Carter's group considered the 2010 election valid when the Russian leading candidate received over 75%
in Crimea.
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Not what I posted.
Do you think these elections were free and fair?
 
JANFU said:
Not what I posted.
Do you think these elections were free and fair?
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Absolutely! Ukraine at that time in place did not have an army, navy,or air force, as most DEFECTED to Crimea,
and told the powers that be they wouldn't fight their brothers..

Ukraine did, have a few thousand Neo Nazi rent a mob thugs lined up to terrorize anyone who didn't like the US installed puppet gov..
but that was in the Khakov & Odessa regions, which they managed to handle rebel factions only in those areas.

Crimea is WAS NOT OCCUPIED by Russian troops, they were self defense forces
consisting of some 6,000 DEFECTED Ukrainian forces, Berkut.& Crimeans..
NOT that it would matter if they were, Russia did have a right to be there, period..

The 97% voted to free themselves from rule by COUP forces were hardly challenged by
Muslim Tarters embedded in the region

I have no dog in this fight no Russian or Ukraine ancestry, never went to either country & never intend to!
But the truth about this situation is important.
 
Litwin said:
New, Its clear , we have a traitor (not an useful idiot) in the white house. is it pee- tape or something else it doesn´t matter . Helping grandpa Vova Trumps goes against the UN resolutions and entire USA´s establishment, literally he risks everything for ex - KGB spy.

questions 1) Trump is a traitor (not an useful idiot)
2) Crimea is Ukraine or Muscovy


https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-trump-insisted-crimea-is-russian-because-crimeans-speak-russian
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You do realize, don't you, that the Russians were unopposed by the Obama Administration, in violation the treaty to protect them, when Russia annexed Crimea.

As far as I know, Trump was not President in 1994 or in 2014. Is his ascent to the high office in those years via time travel or other means a part of the dogma currently circulating in the liberal netherworld?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
 
code1211 said:
You do realize, don't you, that the Russians were unopposed by the Obama Administration, in violation the treaty to protect them, when Russia annexed Crimea.

As far as I know, Trump was not President in 1994 or in 2014. Is his ascent to the high office in those years via time travel or other means a part of the dogma currently circulating in the liberal netherworld?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
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Yes, much like Bush swallowed occupation of 1/3 of Georgia . but give me one single poof that Bush or Obama said somewhere that Crimea and Abkhazia are "Russian" cos people there speak "Russian" . in reality Bulgarian. as we all know Rus´ langue speak Belarusian and Ukrainians

 
America must still be British since they speak a form of English there. We should get the Queen to lock Trump up in the Tower of London when he next visits.
 
the official language of Cuba is Spanish so, I guess by Trump's dumbassery logic Cuba is Spanish, not Cuban ......... even tho' Cuba gained independence in 1902

gotta love that idiot ****ing Trump, right? Nope ...................
 
Litwin said:
New, Its clear , we have a traitor (not an useful idiot) in the white house. is it pee- tape or something else it doesn´t matter . Helping grandpa Vova Trumps goes against the UN resolutions and entire USA´s establishment, literally he risks everything for ex - KGB spy.

questions 1) Trump is a traitor (not an useful idiot)
2) Crimea is Ukraine or Muscovy


https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-trump-insisted-crimea-is-russian-because-crimeans-speak-russian
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Try understanding the average Crimean mindset before you make another useless thread like this.

https://humanrightsinvestigations.o...-russia-believe-referendum-was-free-and-fair/

Crimeans happy about union with Russia, polls find | CBC Radio

https://www.sott.net/article/346327...feel-happy-about-the-future-of-their-children
 
Manc Skipper said:
America must still be British since they speak a form of English there. We should get the Queen to lock Trump up in the Tower of London when he next visits.
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I can hardly wait for the Trump visit to the UK.......treat him right, ok?
 
RetiredUSN said:
Try understanding the average Crimean mindset before you make another useless thread like this.

https://humanrightsinvestigations.o...-russia-believe-referendum-was-free-and-fair/

Crimeans happy about union with Russia, polls find | CBC Radio

https://www.sott.net/article/346327...feel-happy-about-the-future-of-their-children
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the natives, do you mean Crimean Tatars? i know what they think about Muscovy, i was there many times before occupation, did you? or you talk about Muscovite illegal settlers (white trash) who live illegally in stolen from Crimean Tatars houses today ?


 
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