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What are you in your opinion?

So, what are you?

  • Far Left

    Votes: 5 6.6%

  • Center left

    Votes: 24 31.6%

  • Center

    Votes: 7 9.2%

  • Center right

    Votes: 22 28.9%

  • Far right

    Votes: 3 3.9%

  • Something else?

    Votes: 15 19.7%
  • Total voters
    76
  • Poll closed .
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lefty louie

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So many polls here asking if you think this or that, but the results mean nothing unless we know what % of people are far left/right, moderately left/right or center. So take the poll and we'll find out (maybe) how many of us are X,Y or Z.
 
OOH, OOH, I was first to respond. I feel so special. I said center right because well, I am sort of fiscally conservative, but I also feel for the least of us. (in a Jesus sort of way) I work for a military contractor so I like lots of military spending. But I'm going to retire in 3 years so I don't want people to mess with my social security. Just to note. My damn 401K's are down 3.5% for the year Donald. I need that money. Quit f'n around.
So I likes me some money in my pocket, don't mind some going to those who need it, and realize it costs lots of money to fund a big honkin government.
Just don't rip me off. You hear me? I mean it. Don't.. Rip ..Me.. Off.
 
I am me! Same response as when I am asked for some ID!
 
It is impossible to place me on the left/right political spectrum. I fall pretty close the very bottom left corner of the below spectrum, though.

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lefty louie said:
A simple other or no reply at all would suffice, you just want attention don't you.
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I’m not the one starting questionable threads/polls. Missed the place didn’t cha?


Wholesale/
 
lefty louie said:
So many polls here asking if you think this or that, but the results mean nothing unless we know what % of people are far left/right, moderately left/right or center. So take the poll and we'll find out (maybe) how many of us are X,Y or Z.
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I'm staunchly anti-Communist and pro-Individualist and an ideological purist. I like it when people solve their own problems without burdening others.
 
Right economics (except market based green), left social issues (except guns) and right foreign policy (hawk).

Not a moderate, not a centrist.
 
lefty louie said:
So many polls here asking if you think this or that, but the results mean nothing unless we know what % of people are far left/right, moderately left/right or center. So take the poll and we'll find out (maybe) how many of us are X,Y or Z.
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I think one can tell more where one stands or leans by what they post then what they say they are. I definitely lean right as I consider Barry Goldwater my political mentor along with some of Ross Perot tossed in. But there are issues where I am left. Things like gay marriage and letting the woman decide whether or not to have an abortion are a couple of issues where I am left. I believe in fiscal responsibility and not what is termed today as fiscal conservatism. That means a balanced budget and a surplus is desirable. Now if it takes cutting spending to get there, do it. If it takes raising taxes, do it. If it takes both, do it. It seems to me today's fiscal conservatives only believe in low taxes even if that adds trillions to the national debt.

Just a quick synopsis.
 
Heres what I was rated just now :shrug:

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Has for me im not right or left though i have been called both lol

Im an independent.
 
I'm a disgusted, disillusioned straight white male who is fed the hell up with Trump, the alt-right, the Religious Right's sell out to the Trump Administration, Congress - both sides of the isle, Democratic confusion and general pussiness, the Democratic Party's inexplicable willingness to remove itself from all things Bill and Hillary, and America's tacit support for a greater presence in the Middle East.

I am also sick and tired of tribalism, partisanship, racism, all forms of bigotry, America's brain numbing fascination with money, status and celebrity. I am over tired of growing militancy of America and all the faux bull**** nationalism by citizens who haven't and won't sacrifice a damn thing for their country.

I guess that makes me an Independent.
 
I consider myself as an independent. I try to pick the policy which has the most benefit on society.
 
As the "Right" drifted into what it has become, I did not waver or change. I am now center, which used to be right or Republican and is best called Independent.
 
Risky Thicket said:
I'm a disgusted, disillusioned straight white male who is fed the hell up with Trump, the alt-right, the Religious Right's sell out to the Trump Administration, Congress - both sides of the isle, Democratic confusion and general pussiness, the Democratic Party's inexplicable willingness to remove itself from all things Bill and Hillary, and America's tacit support for a greater presence in the Middle East.

I am also sick and tired of tribalism, partisanship, racism, all forms of bigotry, America's brain numbing fascination with money, status and celebrity. I am over tired of growing militancy of America and all the faux bull**** nationalism by citizens who haven't and won't sacrifice a damn thing for their country.

I guess that makes me an Independent.
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Yeah, I'm with THAT guy!
 
trblmkr said:
Just don't rip me off. You hear me? I mean it. Don't.. Rip ..Me.. Off.
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This is where liberals need conservatives.
Liberals are wonderful dreamers but conservatives love poking holes in those dreamy hot air balloons, and there are indeed times when liberals need a hole poked in their balloon. That doesn't mean they shouldn't fly, it just means that they have to patch some holes and make a better flying machine, one that a few conservatives might like to take a ride in.
 
Perotista said:
I think one can tell more where one stands or leans by what they post then what they say they are. I definitely lean right as I consider Barry Goldwater my political mentor along with some of Ross Perot tossed in. But there are issues where I am left. Things like gay marriage and letting the woman decide whether or not to have an abortion are a couple of issues where I am left. I believe in fiscal responsibility and not what is termed today as fiscal conservatism. That means a balanced budget and a surplus is desirable. Now if it takes cutting spending to get there, do it. If it takes raising taxes, do it. If it takes both, do it. It seems to me today's fiscal conservatives only believe in low taxes even if that adds trillions to the national debt.

Just a quick synopsis.
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You know what? Barry Goldwater pissed me off even as a kid. He struck me as an extremist.
John Pastore's Democratic keynote speech in 64 put it in a nutshell.
But nevertheless, I watched the arc of Barry Goldwater's life and noted that his misgivings on the 1964 Civil Rights Act were less about opposition to civil rights and more about treading carefully on property rights.
I still disagreed with his position but I later noted his evolution on many social issues.
Toward his later years, Old Goldy sounded an alarm that few on the Right listened to, about the shotgun marriage between religion and conservatism, and the many "illegitimate legislative children" it might produce.

The one thing that impresses me most about Goldy is that he was happy to do something few on either side do today, reach across the aisle and vote country before party.

I thoroughly liked ole Big Ears Ross Perot, even when I disagreed with him.
Both of these were good conservatives and deserve respect.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
This is where liberals need conservatives.
Liberals are wonderful dreamers but conservatives love poking holes in those dreamy hot air balloons, and there are indeed times when liberals need a hole poked in their balloon. That doesn't mean they shouldn't fly, it just means that they have to patch some holes and make a better flying machine, one that a few conservatives might like to take a ride in.
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Used to be that was how the two sides played out. Now...not so much.
 
PS: I'm the same FDR type liberal I've always been most of my life.
 
Phys251 said:
Used to be that was how the two sides played out. Now...not so much.
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Fighting like cats and dogs is as American as Mom and apple pie, it's as American as it gets.
But at the end of the day, tally up the wins and losses, and then sit down, light some cigars, pass around some liquor and hammer out something between the two sides for the good of the largest number of Americans, the goddam middle class fer chrissakes.

No more tribalism. It's okay to poke each other in the eye and root for your team but let's not forget, in the end this isn't a game or a reality show, it's very serious business and the American people need to know that there are institutions in government which can be trusted, and it starts with you Congress critters and ends at the White House, with a lot of stops along the way.

Bring back bipartisanship, show America that you can trust each other at least some of the time.
Conservatives need liberals and vice versa. You can learn a lot from us, and we can learn lots from you, we just have to trust each other a little bit.
Accept that different people love this country, even if they love it a little bit differently than you would.

Let's be AMERICANS first, then we can play at being Republicans and Democrats.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
You know what? Barry Goldwater pissed me off even as a kid. He struck me as an extremist.
John Pastore's Democratic keynote speech in 64 put it in a nutshell.
But nevertheless, I watched the arc of Barry Goldwater's life and noted that his misgivings on the 1964 Civil Rights Act were less about opposition to civil rights and more about treading carefully on property rights.
I still disagreed with his position but I later noted his evolution on many social issues.
Toward his later years, Old Goldy sounded an alarm that few on the Right listened to, about the shotgun marriage between religion and conservatism, and the many "illegitimate legislative children" it might produce.

The one thing that impresses me most about Goldy is that he was happy to do something few on either side do today, reach across the aisle and vote country before party.

I thoroughly liked ole Big Ears Ross Perot, even when I disagreed with him.
Both of these were good conservatives and deserve respect.
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Goldwater was very big on keeping government out of a citizens private business and lives. Sort of small government a lot of today's conservatives state being for. Yes, he warned the Republican Party big time about their marriage with the religious right and the consequences that might follow. On social issues, back in 1963 or 64, long before gay marriage was thought of, but still dealing with gays. He stated, "You don't have to be straight to shoot straight." A reference to gays in the military way back then. Goldwater was also a champion of a woman's body was hers and if she wanted an abortion, that was entirely up to her.

You're correct on the 1964 civil rights bill. Due to Barry thinking portions were unconstitutional he voted against it. But he previously had voted for the 1957 and 1960 civil rights bills. He would have voted for the senate version of the 1964 bill which didn't have the two portions he thought unconstitutional. But that wasn't to be and a different version passed with him voting Nay. What was, was.

With Ross his number one concern was always the national debt. As for social issues, that was up to each individual to decide where they stand on those. Not him or the Reform Party. He refused and with that refusal, the Reform Party also to take a stand one way or the other on abortion. We weren't about abortion, we were concentrating on the debt and NAFTA. Pretty much everything else was a non Reform Party issue.
 
I'm a centrist, I guess.
 
Just left if center. Have taken about every political quiz out there and every one comes up with the same result. Believe the Vast Majority of Americans are just slightly left or right of center, the issue is those in the far extremes tend to be noisy and get an unwarranted amount of attention. Plus some try using that as an example of all those on the right or left, which is very misleading and dishonest.
 
I am very much to the right on fiscal issues, hawkish on foreign policy, and libertarian on most social issues (such as gay marriage and abortion). His name has been brought up before, and I guess that makes me a Barry Goldwater-style conservative.
 
lefty louie said:
So many polls here asking if you think this or that, but the results mean nothing unless we know what % of people are far left/right, moderately left/right or center. So take the poll and we'll find out (maybe) how many of us are X,Y or Z.
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I'm definitely a centrist. Some here don't believe it, but I'm non partisan, a fiscal conservative and very much a family values kind of guy; I'm a constitutionalist as well. I believe in social moderation, I don't like extremes and I believe that as citizens we have a right to safety as far as we can get it without disruption of our constitutional values.
 
Perotista said:
I think one can tell more where one stands or leans by what they post then what they say they are. I definitely lean right as I consider Barry Goldwater my political mentor along with some of Ross Perot tossed in. But there are issues where I am left. Things like gay marriage and letting the woman decide whether or not to have an abortion are a couple of issues where I am left. I believe in fiscal responsibility and not what is termed today as fiscal conservatism. That means a balanced budget and a surplus is desirable. Now if it takes cutting spending to get there, do it. If it takes raising taxes, do it. If it takes both, do it. It seems to me today's fiscal conservatives only believe in low taxes even if that adds trillions to the national debt.

Just a quick synopsis.
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When Goldwaters daughter wrote his biography she stated that today he would be in the middle between the two party extremes.
 
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