Are today's Trump s**t staining DOJ, FBI & Emmet Flood Trump staining himself Tells of Trump guilt?

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/24/politics/justice-department-briefings-congress/index.html
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White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said Flood and Kelly were there to "facilitate meetings" between the Justice Department officials and Congress and that both men left the meetings "after making brief comments."
"Neither Chief Kelly nor Mr. Flood actually attended the meetings but did make brief remarks before the meetings started to relay the President's desire for as much openness as possible under the law," Sanders said. ...
.....California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House intelligence panel, called Flood's presence "completely inappropriate."
"Although he did not participate in the meetings which followed, as the White House's attorney handling the Special Counsel's investigation, his involvement — in any capacity — was entirely improper, and I made this clear to him," Schiff said in a statement.
Schiff pointed to comments Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani made to Politico on Thursday, in which Giuliani said: "We want to see how the briefing went ... today and how much we learned from it."
"If we learned a good deal from it, it will shorten that whole process considerably," Giuliani added, .....

"The White House's plan to provide a separate briefing for their political allies demonstrates that their interest is not in informing Congress, but in undermining an ongoing criminal investigation," Warner said in a statement.
"If they insist upon carrying out this farce, the White House and its Republican allies in the House will do permanent, longstanding damage to the practice of bipartisan congressional oversight of intelligence," Warner said....

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https://www.politico.eu/blogs/on-me...-fights-media-access-to-secret-court-filings/

Mueller fights media access to secret court filings
The special prosecutor’s portrayal of an active, ongoing investigation seems at odds with claims by Trump’s lawyers.

By JOSH GERSTEIN 5/24/18, 6:51 AM CET Updated 5/24/18, 3:27 PM CET
Special counsel Robert Mueller is fighting a drive by media organizations to unseal secret court filings relating to searches and surveillance efforts undertaken as part of the investigation into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia in the 2016 election.

While lawyers for President Donald Trump have suggested in recent weeks that the inquiry appears to be winding down, Mueller’s prosecutors submitted a court filing on Wednesday that painted a very different picture of an investigation that is moving forward on multiple fronts and could be jeopardized by premature disclosure of the records sought by news outlets.....

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• The government passed repressive laws and selectively employed existing ones to harass, discredit, prosecute, imprison, detain, fine, and suppress individuals and organizations critical of the government.
• The government failed to take adequate steps to prosecute or punish most officials who committed abuses, resulting in a climate of impunity.
• Other problems included:
  • allegations of torture and excessive force by law enforcement officers that sometimes led to deaths;
  • executive branch pressure on the judiciary;
  • electoral irregularities;
  • extensive official corruption;
  • violence against women;
  • discrimination against persons with disabilities; and
  • limitations on workers’ rights.

Xelor said:

Read this -- Dept. of State Report on Human Rights in Russia -- and tell me a ton of it doesn't sound eerily reminiscent of what we're daily witnessing Trump attempt to execute here.

• The government passed repressive laws and selectively employed existing ones to harass, discredit, prosecute, imprison, detain, fine, and suppress individuals and organizations critical of the government.
• The government failed to take adequate steps to prosecute or punish most officials who committed abuses, resulting in a climate of impunity.
• Other problems included:
  • allegations of torture and excessive force by law enforcement officers that sometimes led to deaths;
  • executive branch pressure on the judiciary;
  • electoral irregularities;
  • extensive official corruption;
  • violence against women;
  • discrimination against persons with disabilities; and
  • limitations on workers’ rights.

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ajn678 said:

It seems your obsession with Trump has forced you to create one of the most nonsensical "sentences" I have read in a while. Congrats.

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Xelor said:

Did your formative years not include reading the likes of Updike, Faulkner, or Dickens?

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way—in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.
-- Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities

But then they were married (she felt awful about being pregnant before but Harry had been talking about marriage for a while and anyway laughed when she told him in early February about missing her period and said Great she was terribly frightened and he said Great and lifted her put his arms around under her bottom and lifted her like you would a child he could be so wonderful when you didn’t expect it in a way it seemed important that you didn’t expect it there was so much nice in him she couldn’t explain to anybody she had been so frightened about being pregnant and he made her be proud) they were married after her missing her second period in March and she was still little clumsy dark-complected Janice Springer and her husband was a conceited lunk who wasn’t good for anything in the world Daddy said and the feeling of being alone would melt a little with a little drink.
-- John Updike, Rabbit Run

There was a wisteria vine blooming for the second time that summer on a wooden trellis before one window, into which sparrows came now and then in random gusts, making a dry vivid dusty sound before going away: and opposite Quentin, Miss Coldfield in the eternal black which she had worn for forty-three years now, whether for sister, father, or nothusband none knew, sitting so bolt upright in the straight hard chair that was so tall for her that her legs hung straight and rigid as if she had iron shinbones and ankles, clear of the floor with that air of impotent and static rage like children’s feet, and talking in that grim haggard amazed voice until at last listening would renege and hearing-sense self-confound and the long-dead object of her impotent yet indomitable frustration would appear, as though by outraged recapitulation evoked, quiet inattentive and harmless, out of the biding and dreamy and victorious dust.
-- William Faulkner, Absalom, Absalom! ​

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enderpotato00 said:

When the **** has Trump ever wanted this? Tell me.
-Torture, ok? Excessive force? If you people actually do what the Cop says then maybe it won't happen.
-Violence against women (again when has he said this?)
-When has he said this?
-There has been corruption before Trump don't give me this ****.
-Because the government is too big and corrupt, not b/c of Trump.

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• The government passed repressive laws and selectively employed existing ones to harass, discredit, prosecute, imprison, detain, fine, and suppress individuals and organizations critical of the government.
  • Has a law been passed, yet? No. But Trump called for laws he can use to harass the media and he's used the law to discredit organizations critical of him and his Administration.
    • Trump calls for Senate investigation into news outlets that publish content unflattering to him.
    • Trump pledged if elected president to “open up our libel laws so when [newspapers] write purposely negative stories … we can sue them and make lots of money”
    • “It is frankly disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write and people should look into it.”
      -- Donald Trump
• The government failed to take adequate steps to prosecute or punish most officials who committed abuses, resulting in a climate of impunity.
• Other problems included:
  • allegations of torture and excessive force by law enforcement officers that sometimes led to deaths;
    • You've acceded this, so I won't provide examples.
  • executive branch pressure on the judiciary;
    The judiciary consists of the DoJ and the courts, judges themselves sit squarely on the court side of the judiciary and that side is a co-equal branch of government. No POTUS or member of Congress has any right to pressure judges or other members of the judiciary to do anything. That's the "Saturday Night Massacre" was about.
    
    Trump attempts to delegitimize judges who rule against him, calling them “so called,” “unelected,” and “unfair” judges. He derides adverse judicial opinions as “ridiculous” and “disgraceful.” He claims courts put the country in peril by overturning certain of his immigration policies. He and his top advisors question the judiciary's power to review his policies.
    • Trump pressures judges to speed up deportations.
    • Trump pressures immigration judges to speed up asylum applications
    • Trump Spurs State Lawmakers to Curb Judges’ Powers
    • Trump's personal attacks on judges
    • "This case is yet one more example of egregious overreach by a single, unelected district judge."
  • electoral irregularities;
    • Colluding in the conduct of one's election campaign activities with foreign state agents, actors and/or cutouts is irregular.
  • extensive official corruption;
    • VA Secretary David Shulkin expensed a pricey trip to Europe
    • EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt’s condo lease cost only $50 per night -- due only if he actually slept there that night -- and happened to be owned by a lobbyist whose client’s project was later approved by the agency (One probably cannot get a motel room in the D.C. exurbs, let alone a suite on The Hill, for $50/night.)
  • violence against women;
    • Access Hollywood brag.
    • The "Me Too" movement aims to end to violence and harassment women have faced throughout the 20th and 21st century in the U.S.
  • discrimination against persons with disabilities; and
    • Discrimination Against Disabled Applicants Sadly 'Not Surprising'
    • Discrimination Against People with Disabilities and Employers' Attitudes Regarding Their Employment
  • limitations on workers’ rights.

enderpotato00 said:

“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” (What Liberals are trying to do, and the media, constantly changing history by forcing diversity into times that don't have it [WWII anyone?])

“But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.”

And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed – if all records told the same tale – then the lie passed into history and became truth. "Who controls the past," ran the Party slogan, "controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. "Reality control," they called it: in Newspeak, "doublethink." (Not saying that Trump doesn't do this to a degree, but the Left is very guilty of this)

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Until today, Emmet Flood was considered a respected and highly regarded legal talent. If anyone in DC is aware that the POTUS has a solemn duty not to exploit
the power and influence associated with his official position by attempting to place himself above the law, especially by seeking/demanding confidential investigative
details in an criminal investigation Trump himself is a subject of, a reasonable person would have assumed it would be Trump personal criminal defense attorney Flood!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmet_Flood

Picture a scenario in which a major corporation and its CEO were under investigation and House and Senate intelligence or judiciary oversight committee members
convened a meeting to discuss some specifics of that criminal investigation with DOJ prosecutors because the corporation was a major defense contractor and there
was congressional concern over national security impact resulting from anticipated arrests and prosecutions of primary executives of that corporation, who have
engaged in a sustained attack, calling the criminal investigation a Witch Hunt and disparaged the integrity of prosecutors and of the FBI, and as the meeting
began, in walked the personal attorney of that corporation's CEO and the CEO's executive assistant and the two attempted to take seats at the table, with the attorney
offering a statement to the group. Also consider that the corporation CEO personally has been attacking prosecutors and FBI investigators for months and has refused for at
least three months to agree to an interview with prosecutors who have patiently waited, attempting to subpoena the CEO only as a last resort.



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Xelor said:

Seriously?

• The government passed repressive laws and selectively employed existing ones to harass, discredit, prosecute, imprison, detain, fine, and suppress individuals and organizations critical of the government.
  • Has a law been passed, yet? No. But Trump called for laws he can use to harass the media and he's used the law to discredit organizations critical of him and his Administration.
    • Trump calls for Senate investigation into news outlets that publish content unflattering to him.
    • Trump pledged if elected president to “open up our libel laws so when [newspapers] write purposely negative stories … we can sue them and make lots of money”
    • “It is frankly disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write and people should look into it.”
      -- Donald Trump

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  Trump has said a lot of the things you quoted, but who has he imprisoned for being critical of the government? Can you please name this person(s) so I can research more?
  
  "The government passed repressive laws and selectively employed existing ones to harass, discredit, prosecute, imprison, detain, fine, and suppress individuals and organizations critical of the government."

Xelor said:

Seriously?

• The government passed repressive laws and selectively employed existing ones to harass, discredit, prosecute, imprison, detain, fine, and suppress individuals and organizations critical of the government.
  • Has a law been passed, yet? No. But Trump called for laws he can use to harass the media and he's used the law to discredit organizations critical of him and his Administration.
    • Trump calls for Senate investigation into news outlets that publish content unflattering to him.
    • Trump pledged if elected president to “open up our libel laws so when [newspapers] write purposely negative stories … we can sue them and make lots of money”
    • “It is frankly disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write and people should look into it.”
      -- Donald Trump
• The government failed to take adequate steps to prosecute or punish most officials who committed abuses, resulting in a climate of impunity.
• Other problems included:
  • allegations of torture and excessive force by law enforcement officers that sometimes led to deaths;
    • You've acceded this, so I won't provide examples.
  • executive branch pressure on the judiciary;
    The judiciary consists of the DoJ and the courts, judges themselves sit squarely on the court side of the judiciary and that side is a co-equal branch of government. No POTUS or member of Congress has any right to pressure judges or other members of the judiciary to do anything. That's the "Saturday Night Massacre" was about.
    
    Trump attempts to delegitimize judges who rule against him, calling them “so called,” “unelected,” and “unfair” judges. He derides adverse judicial opinions as “ridiculous” and “disgraceful.” He claims courts put the country in peril by overturning certain of his immigration policies. He and his top advisors question the judiciary's power to review his policies.
    • Trump pressures judges to speed up deportations.
    • Trump pressures immigration judges to speed up asylum applications
    • Trump Spurs State Lawmakers to Curb Judges’ Powers
    • Trump's personal attacks on judges
    • "This case is yet one more example of egregious overreach by a single, unelected district judge."
  • electoral irregularities;
    • Colluding in the conduct of one's election campaign activities with foreign state agents, actors and/or cutouts is irregular.
  • extensive official corruption;
    • VA Secretary David Shulkin expensed a pricey trip to Europe
    • EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt’s condo lease cost only $50 per night -- due only if he actually slept there that night -- and happened to be owned by a lobbyist whose client’s project was later approved by the agency (One probably cannot get a motel room in the D.C. exurbs, let alone a suite on The Hill, for $50/night.)
  • violence against women;
    • Access Hollywood brag.
    • The "Me Too" movement aims to end to violence and harassment women have faced throughout the 20th and 21st century in the U.S.
  • discrimination against persons with disabilities; and
    • Discrimination Against Disabled Applicants Sadly 'Not Surprising'
    • Discrimination Against People with Disabilities and Employers' Attitudes Regarding Their Employment
  • limitations on workers’ rights.

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AliHajiSheik said:

Trump has said a lot of the things you quoted, but who has he imprisoned for being critical of the government? Can you please name this person(s) so I can research more?

"The government passed repressive laws and selectively employed existing ones to harass, discredit, prosecute, imprison, detain, fine, and suppress individuals and organizations critical of the government."

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• "a ton of" is synonymous with "a lot," and neither is synonymous with "all" or "100%" or "each and every", or "every last bit."

enderpotato00 said:

Might I also add that the “Me Too” movement should also include us men that have been abused too

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Moderate Right said:

Why make an obviously partisan poll that only you rabid lefties will answer and you will get the results you wanted? What's the point? But, it's hard to stain government agencies that were already stained.

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Xelor said:

Change "and" to "or."

If you took the time to read the post where I first mentioned those qualities, you'd see that they are taken from a State Dept. report about Russia and that with regard to them I wrote, "tell me a ton of it doesn't sound eerily reminiscent of what we're daily witnessing Trump attempt to execute here." My remark does not stipulate that each and every one of them be a quality of the U.S. or Trump or our government.

• "a ton of" is synonymous with "a lot," and neither is synonymous with "all" or "100%" or "each and every", or "every last bit."

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AliHajiSheik said:

So post 4 and post 8 were a single post, you just got limited by the character limit? Remind me to never ask you for directions to a bathroom.

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• Post 4 is my initial post in this thread.
• Post 8 is a direct reply to the entreaty made by another member in post 5. That member's remarks are in response to post 4.

• Is Quality of Life Actually Increasing?
• Cry closets up on college campus
• USA goods could compete with marginally under-priced products of low-wage nations.

1. I didn't pay close enough attention to what I was doing not to mistake one member for another.
2. I did pay close enough attention to what I was doing to acknowledge to myself that I hadn't "dotted an eye or crossed a tee," as it were.
3. I realized I owed it to myself and to Ender to at least check to see if I'd mistaken him/her for someone else.
4. Upon finding I had confused Ender with someone else, I acknowledged doing so. "Oops. No, that wasn't you."

Moderate Right said:

Why make an obviously partisan poll that only you rabid lefties will answer and you will get the results you wanted? What's the point? But, it's hard to stain government agencies that were already stained.

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.. LINK ..

https://www.nbcnews.com/..
Oct 31, 2017 - Toensing confirmed that Clovis was the campaign supervisor in the emails.

Victoria Toensing joins husband Joseph diGenova..
Fox News - Breaking News Updates | Latest News Headlines | Photos & News Videos...
Mar 22, 2018 - Toensing also represented Sam Clovis, a 2016 Trump campaign associate who supervised George Papadopoulos,

Report: Trump Hiring Toensing's Stepfather to Combat Russia Probe
https://www.sevendaysvt.com/...
Mar 19, 2018 - Brady Toensing, who chaired Trump's 2016 Vermont campaign and lives ...
Victoria Toensing's Story about Sam Clovis' Grand Jury Appearance ...

https://www.emptywheel.net/...
Oct 31, 2017 - Clovis has decided that Toensing can best represent him in the Russia investigation, which means in the wake of yesterday's surprise plea deal ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...
Nov 2, 2017 - Victoria Toensing, an attorney for Sam Clovis, confirmed that several references ..

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ted-from-uranium-sale-democrats-idUSKCN1GK2MU
Informant had no evidence Clinton benefited from uranium sale ...

Mar 8, 2018 - Campbell's attorney, Victoria Toensing, did not immediately reply to an email ... TheUranium One sale was unanimously approved by the ...

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Victoria Toensing - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Toensing

Victoria Ann Toensing (née Long; born October 16, 1941) is a lawyer, and partner with her ... Toensing represents Mark Corallo, who had previously served as a spokesman for Trump's private legal team ...

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.... LINK ....
US judge declines to dismiss ex-Trump aide's false statement charges

Reuters-1 hour ago
Judge Amy Berman Jackson, who is presiding over Manafort's case in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, said in a ruling that she ...

The Latest: Judge declines to throw out Manafort charges
Washington Post-1 hour ago

Manafort Judge Denies Request to Dismiss Count in Indictment
Bloomberg-1 hour ago ....

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https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-marine-one-departure-7/
Remarks by President Trump Before Marine One Departure
Issued on: May 23, 2018
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Q Mr. President — sir, what proof do you have that your campaign was spied on?

THE PRESIDENT: All you have to do is look at the basics and you’ll see. It looks like a very serious event. But we’ll find out. When they look at the documents, I think people are going to see a lot of bad things happened. I hope it’s not so, because if it is, there’s never been anything like it in the history of our country. I hope — I mean, if you look at Clapper, he sort of admitted that they had spies in the campaign, yesterday, inadvertently. But I hope it’s not true. But it looks like it is.
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....THE PRESIDENT: Excuse me. A lot of people have said it. And you go into the FBI, and a lot of those great people working in the FBI, they will tell you, I did a great service to our country by firing James Comey.

Q (Inaudible) meeting tomorrow with the DOJ, Congressman Nunes, Gowdy, Ed O’Callaghan, Christopher Wray, and Dan Coats, the DNI. Are you specifically telling the DOJ to give them the documents —

THE PRESIDENT: I want them all to get together and I want them — because everybody wants this solved. But a lot of bad things have happened. We now call it “Spygate.” You’re calling it “Spygate.” A lot of bad things have happened. I want them all to get together. They’ll sit in a room. Hopefully they’ll be able to work it out among themselves.
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Trump sends investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
Trump sends investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama
April 7, 2011
Posted by
CNN Political Producer Alexander Mooney
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That's according to Trump himself, who, in an interview with NBC, warned his investigators just might uncover "one of the greatest cons in the history of politics and beyond."

"I have people that have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding," Trump said an interview that aired Thursday Morning.

Asked if he has assigned people specifically to search in Hawaii, Trump said, "Absolutely."

The business mogul, who in a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll is tied for second place among potential presidential candidates, also suggested the president is involved in an ongoing cover-up over the matter.

"He spent $2 million in legal fees trying on to get away from this issue, and if it weren't an issue, why wouldn't he just solve it?" he said. "I wish he would because if he doesn't, it's one of the greatest scams in the history of politics and in the history, period. You are not allowed to be a president if you're not born in this country. Right now, I have real doubts."
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Xelor said:

Posts 4 and 8 are not a single post whereof I failed to note that, due to character limits, the first is continued in subsequent post.

• Post 4 is my initial post in this thread.
• Post 8 is a direct reply to the entreaty made by another member in post 5. That member's remarks are in response to post 4.

I have enough discursive integrity to inform readers of when I must use additional posts to complete my prose.

• Is Quality of Life Actually Increasing?
• Cry closets up on college campus
• USA goods could compete with marginally under-priced products of low-wage nations.

Had you clicked on the ">>" trace-link in post 8, perhaps you'd have been able to tell posts 4 and 8 aren't one post split by the character limit. You'd also have noticed perhaps that post 8 is a post in a conversation rather than merely a reply to post 5. I'm surprised you didn't notice that you aren't the poster to whose comments post 8 is a response and, so noticing, check to see whether post 8's content is written assuming a reader is aware of remarks prior to those in post 8.

Don't get me wrong, I've made the mistake of not scrolling-up or "trace-linking" back. One'll see that I did exactly that in post 9 of this thread. I asked Ender-something a question with reference to an earlier post I'd read, posted my question, and then realized that I hadn't checked to see if Ender was the person who'd made the earlier remarks to which I'd referred. I edited post 9 by writing, "Oops. No, that wasn't you." I did that because I knew damn well that I'd mistaken Ender for someone else and initially written post 9 with that frame of mind. From post 9, one can see that:

1. I didn't pay close enough attention to what I was doing not to mistake one member for another.
2. I did pay close enough attention to what I was doing to acknowledge to myself that I hadn't "dotted an eye or crossed a tee," as it were.
3. I realized I owed it to myself and to Ender to at least check to see if I'd mistaken him/her for someone else.
4. Upon finding I had confused Ender with someone else, I acknowledged doing so. "Oops. No, that wasn't you."

So am I chiding you for making a mistake? No. I am, insofar as you don't exhibit the personal integrity it takes to check the legitimacy of the thoughts that cross your mind and that you in turn express in public, reminding you not to ask me for directions to a bathroom because I don't really want to deal with your childishly complaining that I didn't tell you there's a door you must open to get inside it and you didn't bother to figure that out for yourself before returning to piss all over me.

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AliHajiSheik said:

tl;dr

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Common Sense 1 said:

This is a Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious biased poll.

What is the point? It's one more lashing out anout the election. Sigh!

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