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How will Trump react when he doesn't win the Nobel prize?

How will Trump react?

  • Congratulate the winner

    Votes: 2 6.7%

  • personally attack the winner person on twitter

    Votes: 7 23.3%

  • Claim that he was offered it and turned it down

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Claim the Nobel committee's anouncement is fake news and he actually has won

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Total voters
    30
Aristaeus said:
His thin skin is going to take a beating when he doesn't win the Nobel peace prize, how will he react?
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People who unilaterally torpedo historic bilateral peace efforts like the Iran deal just because the previous President made fun of their hair don't win the Nobel Peace Prize.

Jmho.

Obama was, essentially, given the prize because he showed dangerous clowns like John Bolton the door. Trump won't win because he gave those same pariahs even better jobs.

Stormy Daniels is more likely to win.

The Nobel committee knows that the most dangerous political organization in the world is the GOP, closely followed by Likud and Isis.

MS-13 doesn't even register.

A question for my Republican friends:

Why would a guy who railed/campaigned against globalism hire the mother of all neo-cons to be his national security advisor?
 
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eohrnberger said:
I really don't care. So, no, I'm not butt-hurt about it.

When Obama was awarded the Peace Prize, that act invalidated any credibility the Nobel Prize committee might have had, in my mind.
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Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

What I mostly recall about that time period is the fact that Obama had only been POTUS for a few months when it was awarded to him, and most people were surprised that he was chosen to receive the award since he hadn't done anything but talk about what he hoped to accomplish in world affairs in the future.

Interestingly, I read recently that the man who was in charge of the Nobel program for 25 years has retired and written a book in which he admits that they may have made a mistake in giving him an award based on nothing more than hope that he might accomplish what he wanted to do. I think the voters in this country may still be debating that question, too ....... :shrug:
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

What I mostly recall about that time period is the fact that Obama had only been POTUS for a few months when it was awarded to him, and most people were surprised that that he was chosen to receive the award since he hadn't done anything but talk about what he hoped to accomplish in world affairs in the future.

Interestingly, I read recently that the man who was in charge of the Nobel program for 25 years has retired and written a book in which he admits that they may have made a mistake in giving him an award based on nothing more than hope that he might accomplish what he wanted to do. I think the voters in this country may still be debating that question, too ....... :shrug:
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Obama, at the time, had accomplished a lot. He removed a party who invaded the wrong country on purpose based on falsified information from power.

He deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.
 
Howard the Duck said:
Obama, at the time, had accomplished a lot. He removed a party who invaded the wrong country on purpose based on falsified information from power.

He deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Obama, the war criminal/terrorist, didn't deserve it. He got it as a way to stick it to the bigger war criminal/terrorist Bush.
 
Howard the Duck said:
Obama, at the time, had accomplished a lot. He removed a party who invaded the wrong country on purpose based on falsified information from power.

He deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Greetings, Howard the Duck. :2wave:

I can't recall who invaded the wrong country on purpose based on false information? I guess my memory bank just isn't working like it's supposed to, but in my defense, there's been a lot of **** happening in the last ten years or so..... :eek: :mrgreen:
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Howard the Duck. :2wave:

I can't recall who invaded the wrong country on purpose based on false information? I guess my memory bank just isn't working like it's supposed to, but in my defense, there's been a lot of **** happening in the last ten years or so..... :eek: :mrgreen:
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We based our invasion of Iraq on a congressional bill that allowed the potus to use force in the war on terrorism/911.

Of course, Iraq had nothing to do with 911.
 
Howard the Duck said:
Of course he deserved it.
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Well, I guess that settles that!!

One can't be a US president without being a war criminal and a terrorist. The oath of office includes a promise to hold up that grand USA legacy.


Obama’s covert drone war in numbers: ten times more strikes than Bush


There were ten times more air strikes in the covert war on terror during President Barack Obama’s presidency than under his predecessor, George W. Bush.

Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.c...r-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush
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Barack Obama’s Shaky Legacy on Human Rights

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/01/09/barack-obamas-shaky-legacy-human-rights
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World-renowned linguist, activist and MIT professor Noam Chomsky has long asserted that every post-World War II president could be indictable for war crimes — mainly those set out in the Nuremberg Principles. Yet, despite sharply expanding the Global War on Terror, President Obama has somehow received the smallest amount of public scrutiny for United States crimes than all of his predecessors combined.

COLUMN: Obama's war crimes - Indiana Daily Student
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camlok said:
Well, I guess that settles that!!

One can't be a US president without being a war criminal and a terrorist. The oath of office includes a promise to hold up that grand USA legacy.
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I could argue these points, but instead I point at the time line.

All of your points happened AFTER the award was given. They were unknowable by the committee and irrelevant to this discussion.
 
Howard the Duck said:
We based our invasion of Iraq on a congressional bill that allowed the potus to use force in the war on terrorism/911.
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That lame defense didn't help WWII Nazi war criminals so it shouldn't help post WWII American war criminals/terrorists.

Of course, Iraq had nothing to do with 911.
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And Afghanistan had nothing to do with 911.

And there isn't one piece of court room quality evidence that supports the US lies that 19 Arab men had anything to do with that same event.

And Libya had nothing to do with 911.

And Syria had nothing to do with 911.

But once you whip up the sheeple, you might as well keep them hummin'.
 
Howard the Duck said:
I could argue these points, but instead I point at the time line.

All of your points happened AFTER the award was given. They were unknowable by the committee and irrelevant to this discussion.
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Correct. Obama had done zippo. He was as shocked as anyone. But he dishonestly milked it and then showed his true colors, the deep evil that is inherent in the job of US president
 
camlok said:
That lame defense didn't help WWII Nazi war criminals so it shouldn't help post WWII American war criminals/terrorists.



And Afghanistan had nothing to do with 911.

And there isn't one piece of court room quality evidence that supports the US lies that 19 Arab men had anything to do with that same event.

And Libya had nothing to do with 911.

And Syria had nothing to do with 911.

But once you whip up the sheeple, you might as well keep them hummin'.
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We don't disagree as much as you might think.

Afghanistan, however, was a correct target.
 
camlok said:
Correct. Obama had done zippo. He was as shocked as anyone. But he dishonestly milked it and then showed his true colors, the deep evil that is inherent in the job of US president
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Obama removed the Bush administration from office. He deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.

I'm not supposed to say that. But here I am saying it.

And I feel great.
 
Howard the Duck said:
Obama removed the Bush administration from office. He deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.

I'm not supposed to say that. But here I am saying it.

And I feel great.
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Well, OK fair. Everyone has a right to their opinion.

Just as others have the right not to hold that opinion, so fair enough.

Did I post that I really didn't care? Why, yes, I think I did. Guess what. I still don't care.

One Obama was awarded the prize for no accomplishments, the Nobel Prize committee lost all credibility with me.

And guess what. I have a right to that opinion as well.

So 'Machts Nix'.
 
Howard the Duck said:
Obama removed the Bush administration from office. He deserved the Nobel Peace Prize.

I'm not supposed to say that. But here I am saying it.

And I feel great.
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Bush's time was up, he was done, no third term allowed. You feel great revealing you aren't up to speed on how the US system works??
 
camlok said:
Bush's time was up, he was done, no third term allowed. You feel great revealing you aren't up to speed on how the US system works??
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Don't attack. Civility is a must.

If McCain won the administration would have been largely continued--with an additional dangerous Palin component.
 
The Norwegian Nobel Committee released a statement on their awarding the Peace Prize to Obama. It was filled with the usual flowery prose. The final sentence summed it all up - "And he wasn't George W Bush".
 
camlok said:
Correct. Obama had done zippo. He was as shocked as anyone. But he dishonestly milked it and then showed his true colors, the deep evil that is inherent in the job of US president
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Obama got the Affirmative Action version of the Nobel Prize.
 
My recollection is that after 9/11 the US was offered the support of almost all civilized nations. During the years 2002-2008, the Bush/Cheney administration did everything possible to alienate our allies, and the UN.

When Obama was elected, some of the first things he did was to reassure other nations that the US would once again carry the moral leadership of the globe. This was celebrated by the Nobel Prize committee.

People can have their own opinions about this, whether he did "nothing" or whether he in fact brought "hope and change". Those opinions really don't amount to much without an understanding of the time that all happened.

I do not see how Trump brings any hope of peace to the globe...but if he shocks the hell out of me and accomplishes something, I hope he finds the humility to accept the award in the spirit it is given. He might have to practice up for that.
 
Howard the Duck said:
Don't attack. Civility is a must.
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There was no attack. You failed to answer my question.

If McCain won the administration would have been largely continued--with an additional dangerous Palin component.
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Would that have been the first time a guy came into the presidency already a war criminal? Oopppps, nope, Eisenhower.
 
JMR said:
When Obama was elected, some of the first things he did was to reassure other nations that the US would once again carry the moral leadership of the globe. This was celebrated by the Nobel Prize committee.
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That sure served them right, trusting a US president.
 
Slyfox696 said:
The only reason Trump and his supporters even care about the Nobel prize is because Obama got one and they're jealous.
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What did he do to deserve it?
 
JMR said:
My recollection is that after 9/11 the US was offered the support of almost all civilized nations. During the years 2002-2008, the Bush/Cheney administration did everything possible to alienate our allies, and the UN.
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Your recollection doesn't seem to include all the lies about 9/11 that led to another in a long line of USA deceptions that have led to millions being murdered by these unrepentant war criminals/terrorists.
 
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