Do you get angry when people speak a foreign language?

phattonez said:

Lol. You have to be kidding. By current standards nearly all of the soldiers who fought Nazis were homophobic.

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Thank God for progress.

OlNate said:

Thank God for progress.

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So much progress! Look at the world that generation built for us, and look at how we've utterly destroyed it. Keep in mind that the decline is mostly due to one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.



PROGRESS!

phattonez said:

So much progress! Look at the world that generation built for us, and look at how we've utterly destroyed it. Keep in mind that the decline is mostly due to one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.

PROGRESS!

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Definitely the gays' fault... lol

OlNate said:

Definitely the gays' fault... lol

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Progress has definitely been an unmitigated success. It's not like toppling all of the traditions and morals that man held for centuries didn't completely wreck society. Right?

For any non-Americans reading this thread, the views posted by phattonez do not represent the vast majority of US citizens.

Thankfully his ideologies are only held by a very small minority here.

Dragonfly said:

For any non-Americans reading this thread, the views posted by phattonez do not represent the vast majority of US citizens.

Thankfully his ideologies are only held by a very small minority here.

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It's such a fringe, extreme and incredibly irrelevant opinion that phattonez is literally the only person to hold it, and DP has got some real nutters.

Dragonfly said:

Are you the kind if person who gets angry or even afraid when you hear others around you speaking in a language you don't understand?

If you're an American citizen, do you get angry when people in America speak a language that isn't English?

Would you ever confront someone speaking a language you don't understand and yell at them to stop speaking that way?

Personally, I find foreign languages quite intriguing and often times beautiful to listen to.
When members of the opposite sex speak a language I don't understand it can quickly become quite sexy in my mind.

I can't imagine getting pissed off at anyone for simply speaking in a language I don't understand.

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It depends on the situation

RabidAlpaca said:

It's such a fringe, extreme and incredibly irrelevant opinion that phattonez is literally the only person to hold it, and DP has got some real nutters.

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I just hope the non-American readers of DP understand that.

I'd hate to think some people believe his posts are a fair representation of the "average American".

Dragonfly said:

For any non-Americans reading this thread, the views posted by phattonez do not represent the vast majority of US citizens.

Thankfully his ideologies are only held by a very small minority here.

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Your virtue signal is noted.

RabidAlpaca said:

It's such a fringe, extreme and incredibly irrelevant opinion that phattonez is literally the only person to hold it, and DP has got some real nutters.

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No, everyone who is even marginally culturally conservative gets banned around here. This forum has become an echo chamber.

phattonez said:

No, everyone who is even marginally culturally conservative gets banned around here. This forum has become an echo chamber.

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Lol. Okay.

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phattonez said:

The real question is this: why are we allowing people to immigrate who can't speak English? Does that really benefit Americans?

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Actually yes. None of my great grandparents could speak a word of English when they came over... and the contributions they and their descendants have made to America has been considerable.

What does it take to move to a different country in which you don't speak the language and are hated by many small minded individuals? eg.. would you move to the UAE? Singapore? Norway? All of those countries are richer with better opportunities than the US.

America became great because we attracted all of the most driven people in the world. Now we're fat and lazy and think that the hard work of previous generations somehow mystically bestows greatness on us.

We need immigrants.

phattonez said:

So much progress! Look at the world that generation built for us, and look at how we've utterly destroyed it. Keep in mind that the decline is mostly due to one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.

PROGRESS!

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Yes..... Violent crime rates are significantly reduced by extremely high incarceration rates of non-violent offenders :doh

(Actually the reduction in crime rates had much more to do with the switch to unleaded fuel, removing lead paint from homes, and making abortions more available.)

I don't get mad, especially not in general public. Most of the time it is simply another language and anyone has any right to speak whatever language they want to.

It can annoy me however in certain, very specific circumstances. Such as in a work environment, between employees having a casual conversation, particularly while working/on the clock. The main issue I have with this is that it can cause distrust to develop, particularly if there is "sniping" or conflicts going on in such an environment between employees and/or leadership and employees. When everyone speaks the same language, it is generally accepted that you would not say things about someone while at work or in general. But if some people can speak another language, and do so, there can easily become an issue with those conversations being used to criticize another person openly, but disguised by the language. Just because the person you are talking about doesn't know the language, that does not mean that others may not know it and hear your comments, even if you mean them to be "private" (but again, still taking place at work).

This may come from the fact that the military requires that people need to speak English while on duty, conversing with most others, for precisely this reason (obviously there are some exceptions related to conversing with someone else for official communications who doesn't speak English or for diplomatic reasons).

I don't agree that employers should have to accommodate any and all languages within the workplace. If I went to France for a job with a French company or Russia or China or Japan, I would expect to learn their language in order to actually work effectively in that country, with their people, since that is what most of the people in those countries are going to be most comfortable speaking. It should be no different here. At the same time, if an employer here in the US wants their employees to speak nothing but Mandarin or Japanese or Klingon, that should be up to them too. I personally feel it would limit what business you could conduct within the US, but it might depend on your business model too. And anyone doing business with you should expect that (there should be some warning though, especially for something like "we only speak Klingon here").

Mithros said:

Yes..... Violent crime rates are significantly reduced by extremely high incarceration rates of non-violent offenders :doh

(Actually the reduction in crime rates had much more to do with the switch to unleaded fuel, removing lead paint from homes, and making abortions more available.)

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Actually the abortion argument is very weak.

Brian Clowes said:

Statistician David Murray confirmed that young males between the ages of 17 and 25 commit the majority of crimes. However, if abortion had reduced crime, the crime rates in the United States would have dropped first among young people. They did not. Instead, the number of crimes committed by older people dropped first. Nearly 60% of the decline in murder since 1990 involved killers aged 25 and older — who were born before Roe v. Wade.8

Murray also found that other nations with high abortion rates showed a large increase in crime about eighteen years after they legalized abortion. For example, in Great Britain, which legalized abortion in 1968, violent crime has been rising steeply since about 1985 ― exactly when it should have been declining, according to the Donohue‑Levitt thesis. Additionally, Russia, with the highest abortion rate on earth, has experienced a tidal wave of every kind of violent crime following the breakup of the Soviet Union.9

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https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/does-abortion-really-reduce-crime

Dragonfly said:

Are you the kind if person who gets angry or even afraid when you hear others around you speaking in a language you don't understand?

If you're an American citizen, do you get angry when people in America speak a language that isn't English?

Would you ever confront someone speaking a language you don't understand and yell at them to stop speaking that way?

Personally, I find foreign languages quite intriguing and often times beautiful to listen to.
When members of the opposite sex speak a language I don't understand it can quickly become quite sexy in my mind.

I can't imagine getting pissed off at anyone for simply speaking in a language I don't understand.

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If anyone in Canada got angry at hearing a different language I suspect we would all be dead. The nation is official bi-lingual and most metro areas you will hear somewhere between two to twenty languages at any given day.
Here in the west, English is the most frequently used language, and Punjabi is second or tied with Mandarin...but depending on what part of town, you will hear Punjabi anywhere, clustered in some pockets. In Chinatown you will hear four languages as well as some Vietnamese, and the language of much commerce is Cantonese or Mandarin, I speak a bit of both.
In my building there is Spanish, English, Swedish, French and some Mandarin.

With that, those who get irritated at hearing another language I doubt stay very long, and I'm happy about that. I am not a linguist, my french is "interesting" to polite Quebeckers and "humorous" for France born French, but I can good morning or hello in Mandarin, Cantonese, French, English and Punjabi.

It has come to be my belief that you don't have to be strong to be a diverse country, our strength is in our diversity and acceptance of one another. The coolest thing I have seen recently was an elderly woman recently who spoke no English, and become lost while riding a bus. No one could understand her, until a woman holding a cell phone stood up at the rear and said "It's OK my boyfriend speaks five dialects and I have him on my cell."

Case closed

Fearandloathing said:

If anyone in Canada got angry at hearing a different language I suspect we would all be dead. The nation is official bi-lingual and most metro areas you will hear somewhere between two to twenty languages at any given day.
Here in the west, English is the most frequently used language, and Punjabi is second or tied with Mandarin...but depending on what part of town, you will hear Punjabi anywhere, clustered in some pockets. In Chinatown you will hear four languages as well as some Vietnamese, and the language of much commerce is Cantonese or Mandarin, I speak a bit of both.
In my building there is Spanish, English, Swedish, French and some Mandarin.

With that, those who get irritated at hearing another language I doubt stay very long, and I'm happy about that. I am not a linguist, my french is "interesting" to polite Quebeckers and "humorous" for France born French, but I can good morning or hello in Mandarin, Cantonese, French, English and Punjabi.

It has come to be my belief that you don't have to be strong to be a diverse country, our strength is in our diversity and acceptance of one another. The coolest thing I have seen recently was an elderly woman recently who spoke no English, and become lost while riding a bus. No one could understand her, until a woman holding a cell phone stood up at the rear and said "It's OK my boyfriend speaks five dialects and I have him on my cell."

Case closed

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:applaud:cheers:

Fearandloathing said:

It has come to be my belief that you don't have to be strong to be a diverse country, our strength is in our diversity and acceptance of one another. The coolest thing I have seen recently was an elderly woman recently who spoke no English, and become lost while riding a bus. No one could understand her, until a woman holding a cell phone stood up at the rear and said "It's OK my boyfriend speaks five dialects and I have him on my cell."

Case closed

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Imagine how easy it would have been for her had she been in an area where everyone spoke her language.

phattonez said:

Imagine how easy it would have been for her had she been in an area where everyone spoke her language.

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and?


You're not really making a point unless its that people who speak 'foreign' languages shouldn't travel.

For the record, the southern drawl of some Americans is extremely offensive to most of the world.

BTW, English is not the most spoken language. One day, and soon, you will have to learn Mandarin to get by in life

Dragonfly said:

Are you the kind if person who gets angry or even afraid when you hear others around you speaking in a language you don't understand?

If you're an American citizen, do you get angry when people in America speak a language that isn't English?

Would you ever confront someone speaking a language you don't understand and yell at them to stop speaking that way?

Personally, I find foreign languages quite intriguing and often times beautiful to listen to.
When members of the opposite sex speak a language I don't understand it can quickly become quite sexy in my mind.

I can't imagine getting pissed off at anyone for simply speaking in a language I don't understand.

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Most of the time I know the language and speak back to them. I do see many people in the conservative states who get real edgy and panicked looking.

Fearandloathing said:

and?

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So how great is diversity when no one understands what you're speaking? You pointed to a practical problem with diversity.

You're not really making a point unless its that people who speak 'foreign' languages shouldn't travel.

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You probably shouldn't travel to a place where it's going to be difficult for you to get by.

For the record, the southern drawl of some Americans is extremely offensive to most of the world.

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I'm not offended by it. Why are you?

BTW, English is not the most spoken language. One day, and soon, you will have to learn Mandarin to get by in life

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I'll be just fine if I remain in English speaking areas.

Taxman said:

Most of the time I know the language and speak back to them. I do see many people in the conservative states who get real edgy and panicked looking.

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Probably because they never voted to have their demographics change like this.

phattonez said:

So how great is diversity when no one understands what you're speaking? You pointed to a practical problem with diversity.



You probably shouldn't travel to a place where it's going to be difficult for you to get by.



I'm not offended by it. Why are you?



I'll be just fine if I remain in English speaking areas.

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and stay out of Canada.

Fearandloathing said:

and stay out of Canada.

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Lol, he was probably offended most about the fact that I don't mind the southern accent.