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Are there more uneducated voters on the left or on the right?

Are there more uneducated voters on the left or on the right?


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Nope, that's another one of your follies. Still better than that left-wing, corrupt, cellulite crooked Hillary. That was your pick of the litter.

Another hypocrite evangelical. Keep pretending that your leader isn't a lying sack of crap. Your hypocrisy is so damned funny.

But.....Hilllary!!!!!!:lamo

Like shooting fish in a barrel.
 
Well, to be fair, we don't know that Trump has cheated on his wife at all in at least 10 years. We do know that Bill Clinton walked around the White House with his pants unzipped, not to mention the Governor's mansion.

Actually, we do.

Keep up.
 
Your first paragraph is nonsensical and debate filler. You have yet to demonstrate how intellectualism is the root of all evil.

Political quizzes are worthless. Instead, let’s discuss policy prescriptions and how we should pragmatically tackle the issues of the day while ensuring effective results. For starters, I have yet to debate a libertarian who strongly opposes the Civil Rights Act & Voting Rights Act (I know many opppse these laws but few are willing to command a debate to persuade others that we would be better as a society without them). Lew Rockwell’s racist articles in Ron Paul’s newsletter was sort of the beginning of the end of libertarianism for me. Second example: should this country overturn the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act because it is an unfunded mandate and federally unconstitutional? I know Ron Paul’s followers admire the good ol’ days when Catholic Churches took care of those who could not afford to pay their medical bills, but we need to look at today’s healthcare system and decide once and for all if hospitals should be allowed to dump patients or refuse treatment. Hipppcratic Oath aside, should we reserve this right to the hospital groups or continue to protect a patient’s right to immediate medical treatment in the event of an emergency. Those who support the latter choose the slippery slope of progressivism, regardless if they self-identify as a libertarian, democrat, or republican.

I think you just completely do not understand my point. It has gone way over your head.

Do you really think that I think intellectuals are all bad, and they have nothing worth to say? What do you think I meant by that? That we should only listen to religious wack jobs or something?

If you do think that was my argument, you are way off the mark... WAY off.
I was giving a well earned reality check that education does not necessarily mean you know what you are talking about or that you know what should be done. Countless intellectuals have failed in the past toying with humanity, catastrophically. Intellectuals, like myself, need to take criticism even more seriously than the common man because our words are trusted and have power.

And an example? Almost every war.... almost every single decision when it comes to war and policy.... the most intelligent make the most important decisions. It was the Obama Administration that decided it was a good idea to take out Gaddafi and the Arab spring. Now we are suffering the consequences of massive immigration from Arab countries and slavery in northern Africa. Welfare programs in the 60s and 70s contributed to the start of the fall of the African American family to where now more than 70% percent of their households have no father.... and that happened only over the course of 30 years. Minimum wage laws made young black Americans from among the lowest unemployed percentage of any young ethnic group to now the highest. The brilliant Communist of Soviet Russia inflicted their experiment on the common people of Russia to where it ended up hundreds of millions of people dying as a direct result of their policies themselves, and not just their cruelty(When you assume all the best and richest farmers are the best and the richest because of them repressing and stealing from others, you take and divide up their land and give it to the others.... now you have mass starvation, because no... the richest and best farmers were not rich because they exploited people, they were rich because they were competent and hard working and when you take out all the best hard working and industrial people.... you are left with lazy and stupid farmers).

There are literally LIMITLESS policies that intellectuals have come up with that have flat out catastrophically failed, often doing the very opposite of they're stated goal.

And I don't know how this became about my political lean, but dude... you can't tell me what I am, I know what I think and what I believe. Libertarian is the best match of any of the other options.... though I do deviate from a hardcore Libertarians at times lol. As far as my position on civil rights acts, I believe there should be laws saying you cannot deny a service/job/etc. based on someones race or gender,.... though it does feel wrong to force someone to do a service they do not want to do, I think this exception is needed. I am also a severe critic of affirmative action and any other forms of racism sponsored by the government and businesses such as that.
 
Absolutely. I mean, how else could you describe Marla Maples except as a home wrecker? It's a long term pattern.

Yup, once a lying cheating pile of trash, always a lying cheating pile of trash.
 
Another hypocrite evangelical. Keep pretending that your leader isn't a lying sack of crap. Your hypocrisy is so damned funny.

But.....Hilllary!!!!!!:lamo

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

That's your claim to wisdom today?

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education does not necessarily mean intelligent. and many of the people with the "most education" are often people that aren't necessarily very bright. For example, those pursuing "teaching" in College often go on to get masters of education. Yet the students pursuing being HS or GS teachers often are the college students with the lowest entering test scores. yet they have Masters and they generally support the Democratic Party because the teachers unions are major organs of the DNC. Lawyers often are fans of the DNC and the ABA leans heavily in support of the DNC. additionally, many of those with PhDs, especially ones in areas that really don't translate well to business or the private sector-are big fans of government spending on education and thus again support Democrats.

on the other hand, for most years that data is available, hs drop outs-the least educated cohort tracked in the studies-have voted more for Democrats than Republicans.

so its pretty much a wash
 
Just curious. The left claim that the uneducated people voted Trump into office. I say there are more uneducated on the left than there are on the right.

Not certain why you are polling for the impressions of the ignorant when research on this exists.

It seems the rumors of the 2016 election are true, Democrats tend to be more educated than Republicans.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/22/democrats-more-educated-republicans-pew-research-c/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ites-and-donald-trump/?utm_term=.722732f4b590

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/22/poli...ation-poll-women-pew-research-trnd/index.html

https://www.npr.org/2016/04/30/475794063/why-are-highly-educated-americans-getting-more-liberal

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2...-of-the-elite-college-education/#5dad917e70f2
 
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There are millions of uneducated people in the inner cities who only vote democrat. I would venture to say that 75% of democratic voters are uneducated.


That added NOTHING to this discussion. There are no facts or well informed opinion behind "I would venture to say..."... it is nothing but an impression without any consideration for the truth behind it. It's lazy. Moreover, no one is interested in your ill-informed impressions.

The best thing about debate is that it challenges us to know and/or learn the subject we are discussing. If you don't know, go learn. There is a world of knowledge, research and informed opinion just a couple of clicks away. Rather than "venture to guess" why not "adventure to learn"

Please use this and get back to us...

Google
 
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There are millions of uneducated people in the inner cities who only vote democrat. I would venture to say that 75% of democratic voters are uneducated.

I would venture to say you're wrong. I would also venture to say that later this morning I will ride a unicorn to work and eat rainbows for breakfast.
 
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Just curious. The left claim that the uneducated people voted Trump into office. I say there are more uneducated on the left than there are on the right.

Your question is mostly irrelevant.

200 years ago, academia consisted of practicing Christians; today it doesn't.
100 years ago mainstream academia voted one way; today it votes another.
40 years ago mainstream academia accepted Communist theories; today it doesn't.

The inconsistencies in the above stances occur within a timeframe that is too short for genetics to explain. Ergo socio-economic and environmental pressures, which do nothing to validate one political lean or another.
 
By uneducated, what do you mean? Do you mean people who literally have not completed compulsory public education (high school drop-outs)? Or people who are simply ill-informed or ignorant about certain political issues?

Face it. The rednecks weigh you down.
 
The liberals are twice as dumb as the conservatives

Unfortunately facts are aren't your friend. But there's hope! Trump has introduced the all new and fresh alternative facts. When the real world doesn't agree with you, go with pure unadulterated bull**** It works for the rednecks, Will it work for you?
 
Your question is mostly irrelevant.

200 years ago, academia consisted of practicing Christians; today it doesn't.
100 years ago mainstream academia voted one way; today it votes another.
40 years ago mainstream academia accepted Communist theories; today it doesn't.

The inconsistencies in the above stances occur within a timeframe that is too short for genetics to explain. Ergo socio-economic and environmental pressures, which do nothing to validate one political lean or another.

Forty years ago:
https://books.google.com/books?id=s...XAhXISyYKHbGHCtEQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
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[FONT=&quot]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henlee_Hulix_Barnette

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[FONT=&quot]Henlee Hulix Barnette (August 14, 1911 – October 20, 2004) was an American social activist, professor of Christian ethics, minister, and author. His first book, Introducing Christian Ethics (1961), became a standard text in his field. He marched with Martin Luther King and met with Nikita Khrushchev to set up a college student exchange program with the Soviet Union……..[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]http://www.jacoblupfer.com/blog/2015/1/20/southern-baptists-martin-luther-king-problem

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Jacob Lupfer
Yesterday, on the holiday honoring the life and legacy of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., a tweet from a Southern Baptist seminary administrator caught my attention.
https://twitter.com/AdamGreenway/status/557191383426277376/photo/1


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[FONT=&quot]How nice! At a time when many white Christians in the South remained virulently racist and most of the rest were shamefully timid, these three Christian gentlemen welcomed Dr. King to the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary’s campus in Louisville, Kentucky.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]While thousands of Southern Baptist pastors vehemently opposed integration, [/FONT][FONT=&quot]the forward-thinking men of SBTS were on the Right Side of History.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]But what do today’s Southern Baptist leaders really think of the Reverend Dr. Henlee Barnette, the legendary Baptist ethicist who taught at Southern from 1951-1977? Probably not much.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]https://twitter.com/AdamGreenway/status/557191383426277376/photo/1[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The SBC is justly proud of its academics, ethicists, and activists who prophetically denounced racism and called on white Protestants to repent of their sinful, discriminatory attitudes – attitudes that many perversely derived from the Bible itself. But how many of these leaders (and their proteges) survived the denomination’s purge of moderates in the 1980s?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Henlee Barnette would not be allowed to teach at SBC seminaries today. So why, exactly, do Baptist elites want to celebrate him? Did he invite Dr. King to Louisville in faithfulness to a Bible he did not believe in and a God he did not know?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Barnette did the right thing because his theology and biblical interpretations were right. Southern Baptists can’t have it both ways. Maybe the Reverend Dr. Barnette was right about a few other things, too.[/FONT]
 
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Unfortunately facts are aren't your friend. But there's hope! Trump has introduced the all new and fresh alternative facts. When the real world doesn't agree with you, go with pure unadulterated bull**** It works for the rednecks, Will it work for you?
At a time when the city hosting the SBC seminary was vigorously enforcing segregation, Dr. King's mother was a welcome visitor at the SBC seminary
where the administration and faculty were supporters of integration.
SBTS – Dr. King's Visit - The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
SBTS ? Dr. King?s Visit
“Dr. King slowly and quietly recognized Dr. Howington, members of the faculty, students, and visitors. Then he expressed his pleasure at being in the seminary chapel again. He noted that he had been in the chapel two or three times before with his mother who was organist for the Woman's Auxiliary of the National Baptist ...

Top Cat, there sure is a lot of that going around. The SBC had an opportunity to disband because their seminaries were telling students the truth resulting in forty
percent of PhD candidates doubting the divinity of Jesus. The reaction to this discovery was to veer hard right and to purge the ethicist Henlee Barnette and his honest
teaching colleagues. One result of that early 80's purge is Trump!
 
I have not been able to detect a difference in the propensity for magical thinking filled fantasylands between the sides....it is a pervasive American problem.
 
Just curious. The left claim that the uneducated people voted Trump into office. I say there are more uneducated on the left than there are on the right.

I would disagree in that the left is overly educated in schools of less serious nature, that have a liberal lean.

Its called "indoctrination."

This isn't about an education level, but rather what schools most the educated come from.
 
I was an idealistic libertarian like you once. That was until I realized the only effective strategy to bring about a libertarian system of government is through violence, revolution, and subsequent chaos. Libertarians prefer to watch it all burn down so they can start over. Instead, I prefer to keep the current system and improve upon it. Most Americans are reformists anyway, not revolutionaries.

You are speaking of the extreme view, that libertarians don't believe in. You speak of anarchy. Libertarians understand a small degree of control must be placed on society. Libertarians simply demand no more control that what is needed.
 
Unfortunately facts are aren't your friend. But there's hope! Trump has introduced the all new and fresh alternative facts. When the real world doesn't agree with you, go with pure unadulterated bull**** It works for the rednecks, Will it work for you?

That's how democrats operate. Is that why you think republicans do?
 
I would disagree in that the left is overly educated in schools of less serious nature, that have a liberal lean.

Its called "indoctrination."

This isn't about an education level, but rather what schools most the educated come from.

Sorry, no.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...ing-beliefs-were-best-predictor-trump-support
[h=1]Childrearing Beliefs Were Best Predictor of Trump Support[/h][h=2]A poll with four weird questions helps explain Trump’s surprising victory.[/h][FONT=&quot]Posted Feb 01, 2017
......It turned out that these questions were, for Republicans, by far the best predictors of who planned to vote for Trump—better than gender, age, race, income, religiosity, or anything else that was asked.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]There was method in MacWilliams’s seeming madness of asking questions about childrearing in a political poll. Answers to these questions had been shown in previous research to be an excellent index of an [FONT=&quot]authoritarian [/FONT]outlook on life. People who choose the first in each of the adjective pairs (respectful, obedient, well-behaved, well-mannered) have been shown to be generally high in authoritarianism and people who choose the second (independent, self-reliant, considerate, curious) have been shown to be generally low in that trait.[/FONT]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_personality
Authoritarian personality is a state of mind or attitude characterized by belief in absolute obedience or submission to someone else’s authority, as well as the administration of that belief through the oppression of one's subordinates. It usually applies to individuals who are known or viewed as having an authoritative, strict, or oppressive personality towards subordinates...
 
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