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Scandals VS Jobs

Scandals VS Jobs

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Saw this question posted to twitter today. When voting for President in 2020 (assuming Trump is still here and runs) What is more important to you?

The impact of the President's various scandals, or jobs numbers and relatively stable economy during his presidency?
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Saw this question posted to twitter today. When voting for President in 2020 (assuming Trump is still here and runs) What is more important to you?

The impact of the President's various scandals, or jobs numbers and relatively stable economy during his presidency?
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Money. Without which life sucks a bit more. Stable to growing economy is numero uno.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Saw this question posted to twitter today. When voting for President in 2020 (assuming Trump is still here and runs) What is more important to you?

The impact of the President's various scandals, or jobs numbers and relatively stable economy during his presidency?
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Everyone is imperfect but when you get in the public eye, depending on how the media feels about you, you get a public analysis of your life on public TV.

That is why the we will never have the best presidents. We want to hire moral men who agree with us, work miracles, change our lives for the better, and protect us from our enemies, and work for ten cents on the dollar. Being SCOTUS is the most thankless job on the planet for successful people.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Saw this question posted to twitter today. When voting for President in 2020 (assuming Trump is still here and runs) What is more important to you?

The impact of the President's various scandals, or jobs numbers and relatively stable economy during his presidency?
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Great question! And jobs are even more important when you consider most of the so called scandals are manufactured by the left resistance in order to get Trump. But, you lefties really ought to take your poll results to heart and realize that you aren't going to win many elections by merely being anti-Trump. Didn't work for Hillary. Isn't going to work in 2018 and isn't going to work in 2020.
 
Moderate Right said:
Great question! And jobs are even more important when you consider most of the so called scandals are manufactured by the left resistance in order to get Trump. But, you lefties really ought to take your poll results to heart and realize that you aren't going to win many elections by merely being anti-Trump. Didn't work for Hillary. Isn't going to work in 2018 and isn't going to work in 2020.
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Quoted for truth.

All you have to do is see how the media is falling all over themselves reporting a 10 year old affair non-stop, and pushing out (ignoring) the positive news the unemployment rate, the labor participation rate. Tells you exactly how biased against this president the media is.
 
It sounds like a choice straight from Nazi Germany -- 'who cares if Hitler exterminates Jews, Gypsies and the disabled as long as we have prosperity. '

The reality regarding Trump is that we'd still have a robust economy and strong jobs with a president that wasn't the immoral basket-case like Trump. The economy we have now is largely a continuing trend over the last eight years and not some miracle brought on by Trump. In 2012, Romney promised that 'by the end of his first term [2016] he'd bring unemployment down to 6%.' By the end of 2016, unemployment was 4.4% and we could be certain that if Romney was president, he'd take full credit for that event -- just the way Trump is taking credit for a continuation of a trend.

We don't have to make a choice between immorality and economic prosperity. Apart from right-wing smears, Hillary didn't have the moral baggage Trump has and we'd still be experiencing low unemployment and growing economy.
 
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NeverTrumpGOP said:
Saw this question posted to twitter today. When voting for President in 2020 (assuming Trump is still here and runs) What is more important to you?
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voting him out, and punishing the Republican party for putting all of us at risk.
 
An unanswerable question as I see it. What scandals will he be involved in, I mean will he knock off a communist leader, will he invade Cuba, will it be proven he lied under oath, will he father a child to a woman that is not his wife?

Or will it all be a bunch of petty BS?
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Saw this question posted to twitter today. When voting for President in 2020 (assuming Trump is still here and runs) What is more important to you?

The impact of the President's various scandals, or jobs numbers and relatively stable economy during his presidency?
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This one is a no-brainer when you consider the fact that all of Trump's "scandals" are mountains build out of molehills and/or deliberate attacks. All nonsense.

Of course, jobs and the economy are more important.
 
MTAtech said:
It sounds like a choice straight from Nazi Germany -- 'who cares if Hitler exterminates Jews, Gypsies and the disabled as long as we have prosperity. '

The reality regarding Trump is that we'd still have a robust economy and strong jobs with a president that wasn't the immoral basket-case like Trump. The economy we have now is largely a continuing trend over the last eight years and not some miracle brought on by Trump. In 2012, Romney promised that 'by the end of his first term [2016] he'd bring unemployment down to 6%.' By the end of 2016, unemployment was 4.4% and we could be certain that if Romney was president, he'd take full credit for that event -- just the way Trump is taking credit for a continuation of a trend.

We don't have to make a choice between immorality and economic prosperity. Apart from right-wing smears, Hillary didn't have the moral baggage Trump has and we'd still be experiencing low unemployment and growing economy.
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Does Trump want to exterminate Jews, Gypsies and the disabled as long as we have prosperity? Please post the proof.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Saw this question posted to twitter today. When voting for President in 2020 (assuming Trump is still here and runs) What is more important to you?

The impact of the President's various scandals, or jobs numbers and relatively stable economy during his presidency?
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That's not the question though.

The question is one of risk vs. reward.
Is the reward of more jobs (assuming that can be credited to Trump's policies/actions) worth the risk of the various side-effects?

The various scandals are a mix of bull**** scandals partially covering for a few potential real problems, and generally are largely distractions.


The real questions I wonder about are whether the decisions Trump and team have made will cause long-term or even irreparable harm to the country.
 
Moderate Right said:
Does Trump want to exterminate Jews, Gypsies and the disabled as long as we have prosperity? Please post the proof.
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Not yet, but the narrative of conservatives is that we should put up with Trump’s immortality because of good economic numbers. I’m saying that it’s a false choice.
 
Moderate Right said:
At risk of what?
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the president is a megalomaniacal half wit whose base will back any move that he makes. add in that he's in charge of the most powerful military that mankind has ever known, and you have to ask me how the Republican party has put us at risk?
 
Helix said:
the president is a megalomaniacal half wit whose base will back any move that he makes. add in that he's in charge of the most powerful military that mankind has ever known, and you have to ask me how the Republican party has put us at risk?
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At risk for what? You didn't even answer the question.
 
Scandals, easy. There are few unemployed Americans. The unemployment rate for April is at 3.9%, the lowest number since 2001.

Trump is never going to get enough American bodies to fill those 25 million new jobs he promised.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Scandals, easy. There are few unemployed Americans. The unemployment rate for April is at 3.9%, the lowest number since 2001.

Trump is never going to get enough American bodies to fill those 25 million new jobs he promised.
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There are more jobs now than there were under Obama and less unemployed.
 
MTAtech said:
It sounds like a choice straight from Nazi Germany -- 'who cares if Hitler exterminates Jews, Gypsies and the disabled as long as we have prosperity. '

The reality regarding Trump is that we'd still have a robust economy and strong jobs with a president that wasn't the immoral basket-case like Trump. The economy we have now is largely a continuing trend over the last eight years and not some miracle brought on by Trump. In 2012, Romney promised that 'by the end of his first term [2016] he'd bring unemployment down to 6%.' By the end of 2016, unemployment was 4.4% and we could be certain that if Romney was president, he'd take full credit for that event -- just the way Trump is taking credit for a continuation of a trend.

We don't have to make a choice between immorality and economic prosperity. Apart from right-wing smears, Hillary didn't have the moral baggage Trump has and we'd still be experiencing low unemployment and growing economy.
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Time to GODWIN...


One sentence.
 
For me it would more likely be scandals. The president doesn't control job growth in a very direct way.
 
MTAtech said:
It sounds like a choice straight from Nazi Germany -- 'who cares if Hitler exterminates Jews, Gypsies and the disabled as long as we have prosperity. '

The reality regarding Trump is that we'd still have a robust economy and strong jobs with a president that wasn't the immoral basket-case like Trump. The economy we have now is largely a continuing trend over the last eight years and not some miracle brought on by Trump. In 2012, Romney promised that 'by the end of his first term [2016] he'd bring unemployment down to 6%.' By the end of 2016, unemployment was 4.4% and we could be certain that if Romney was president, he'd take full credit for that event -- just the way Trump is taking credit for a continuation of a trend.

We don't have to make a choice between immorality and economic prosperity. Apart from right-wing smears, Hillary didn't have the moral baggage Trump has and we'd still be experiencing low unemployment and growing economy.
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Everything except the Hillary comment. Trump is a bag of crap, but Hillary just requires a larger bag.
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I do recall that Olde Billy boy had a record unemployment while the economy was booming and the Right saw fit to have a Special Prosecutor go after him for 20 months and ultimately find zippo so he was able to find a stain on a blue dress. Talk about witch hunts these Conservatives know all about them......they are usually the Elmer Fudd's in that scenario. Trump is a chump. You voted for draining the swamp I thought. Sorry folks but I don't forsake my country for a lousy job. Get educated and the jobs will find you.
 
MTAtech said:
Not yet, but the narrative of conservatives is that we should put up with Trump’s immortality because of good economic numbers. I’m saying that it’s a false choice.
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And you would be wrong_again.
 
Moderate Right said:
There are more jobs now than there were under Obama and less unemployed.
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A carryover from the Obama years. There are now precious few Americans to fill the 25 million new jobs Trump promised (another campaign lie).

It's probably a good thing that companies are paying off debt and buying back stock with their tax windfall rather than investing in new plants.
 
Moderate Right said:
Great question! And jobs are even more important when you consider most of the so called scandals are manufactured by the left resistance in order to get Trump. But, you lefties really ought to take your poll results to heart and realize that you aren't going to win many elections by merely being anti-Trump. Didn't work for Hillary. Isn't going to work in 2018 and isn't going to work in 2020.
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EXACTLY!!! The ran an "anti" campaign for the 200 elections and won and now they think that that's the way to win every election. Instead of finding ways to run for something, the left is now focused primarily on finding things/people to run against. IMO, I think that this is the reason they lost so big in the last national election. People are tired of the negativity and like him or not, Pres. Trump ran a very positive campaign. So keep on pushing the negativity and we'll see this nation continue to move right (as long as the right keeps pushing the "positivity").
 
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