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Mueller

Should Mueller Be Fired?

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Superfly said:
Are you privy to the investigation? Does Mueller keep you informed of what he does, and when he does it? Not bloody likely.

When he decides to start giving you play-by-plays at the day's end, of what he has done and when he is doing it, then you might have a little more credibility.

As it is right now, you're just dishing up sour grapes.

Let us know when Mueller gives you that call. :lol:
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Mueller has found nothing on Trump and has said so. You guys just don't like that fact.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Show me the charge paper of memo of understanding that limits the investigation to just Russians interfering with the election.

No one is so stupid as to tie an iinvestigator's hands. And I seem to recall that Whitewater kind of went from one thing into a giant nothing burger...and for that matter Republicans raked Hillary clinton over the coals for two years running and fond nothing,.

Please show me where you were concerned about the tax payers millions being poured down the drain day after day by her inquiries.

I know this, Republicans and emailgate spend ten times what Mueller has so far and he's already caught three bad guys and maybe a porn star.
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Please stay on topic. Your rabid anti-Trumpness has your mind all over the place.
 
upsideguy said:
If you think the Washington Post, one of the world's great newspapers, is fake news, why are you even on this site? The alternative is political porn that fills your head with smut, soothing only your preconceived ideas and wrongfully rewarding your ignorance. You can have your own opinions, but you can not have your own facts.

I have yet to see you support any of your assertions. Its no wonder you are clueless as to what is really happening in Washington.

If you will note, the Business Insider link was only there to substantiate the depth of the Mueller team. Ever wonder why he has such a all-star team of investigators and prosecutors on financial fraud? Ponder that along with the other six points I posted.
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Grossly negligent but nothing criminal.
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Grossly negligent handling classified materials is criminal.

18 U.S. Code § 793 f

f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed,

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
 
Moderate Right said:
A resume is not evidence of guilt. Where's the beef? By the way, the team is comprised of Democrats.
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Their resumes show what they are good at.

The prosecutors on mueller’s Team are experts on white collar crimes such as money laundering and mob crime.

Mueller is approaching the case like he is taking down a crime family: following the money and getting the underlines first before taking down the big fish
 
We have treason from odumbo down ALL plain to see the price of treason is the same world wide. Plan to see the MAGA go at all of them . you bet. As for mule it should be slow hung.
 
Moderate Right said:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-post/
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Did you even read your link? All of it, I mean? Or were you distracted by that pretty red and blue arrow, and you got no further?

These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Notes: The Washington Post is an American daily newspaper. It is the most widely circulated newspaper published in Washington, D.C., and was founded on December 6, 1877. The newspaper has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year. Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards. The Washington Post has a liberal bias in reporting choices, however they are typically well sourced to credible information. Sometimes they rush stories to be the first to break them, which leads to poor sourcing. This has occurred on a few occasions in 2016. When an error is made the Washington Post responsibly makes corrections. (5/18/2016) Updated (1/12/2017)

So yes, there's a little negative in there, but overall, your source is giving WaPo some pretty high marks.
 
hanger4 said:
*This investigation was started by the Trump administration, right?*

Aaaaaah no, this investigation was started by Comey July of 2016, that would be the Obama administration.
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No it wasn't. That was the FBI. Mueller works for the A-G's office.

edit- 5 guilty pleas so far and what, 15 indictments? Go ahead, fire Mueller. But remember it was obstruction of justice that did in Nixon and Clinton.
 
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u2smilemaga said:
We have treason from odumbo down ALL plain to see the price of treason is the same world wide. Plan to see the MAGA go at all of them . you bet. As for mule it should be slow hung.
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And then you come along, and make perfect sense. :roll:
 
Sampson Simpson said:
You guys think the more stupid **** you make up, the more it becomes true? There is mounds of connections linking Trump to questionable practices, a lot of as of now circumstantial evidence of his Russia connections, people in his admin are being indicted and taking plea deals, his behavior of trying to impede or discredit the investigation, and his entire history of questionable ethics and business dealings. All this is undeniable

Meanwhile, Bengazi went on and on and was the biggest crock of ****, that's what a real politicial witch hunt looks like.



AKA trolling
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Regarding Bengazi. You have 2 choices: You can believe the government narrative or you can believe the special ops (whistleblowers) who were THERE. It seems you have chosen to believe the government with its track record of narratives
over the soldiers (with no reason to lie) who were there. I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning for arriving at that choice.

The people being indicted and taking plea deals are so they can put in the headlines and make it appear as though Mueller is doing such a great job busting the Trump campaign for Russian collusion. I know this because I just read all of the indictments and none of the charges are collusion and no charges (including the latest Manafort/Gates charges)have anything to do with Trump. Most of them are for lying. They should have already known that only Hillary can lie and not be charged!
 
sKiTzo said:
The wrath has been everyday anyway. It'll never stop. They are so deceitful - they call themselves "liberal" while at the same time campaigning to do away with both the first AND second amendments.
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Where's the legislation to overturn the first amendment?
 
Superfly said:
Are you privy to the investigation? Does Mueller keep you informed of what he does, and when he does it? Not bloody likely.

When he decides to start giving you play-by-plays at the day's end, of what he has done and when he is doing it, then you might have a little more credibility.

As it is right now, you're just dishing up sour grapes.

Let us know when Mueller gives you that call. :lol:
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I wonder if he can answer for us all why there is no public knowledge of Don Jr being interviewed?
 
u2smilemaga said:
We have treason from odumbo down ALL plain to see the price of treason is the same world wide. Plan to see the MAGA go at all of them . you bet. As for mule it should be slow hung.
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Mule?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Their resumes show what they are good at.

The prosecutors on mueller’s Team are experts on white collar crimes such as money laundering and mob crime.

Mueller is approaching the case like he is taking down a crime family: following the money and getting the underlines first before taking down the big fish
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And, where's the proof of anything? There were people investigating Hillary. Does that mean she was guilty?
 
Superfly said:
Did you even read your link? All of it, I mean? Or were you distracted by that pretty red and blue arrow, and you got no further?

These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH

Notes: The Washington Post is an American daily newspaper. It is the most widely circulated newspaper published in Washington, D.C., and was founded on December 6, 1877. The newspaper has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year. Post journalists have also received 18 Nieman Fellowships and 368 White House News Photographers Association awards. The Washington Post has a liberal bias in reporting choices, however they are typically well sourced to credible information. Sometimes they rush stories to be the first to break them, which leads to poor sourcing. This has occurred on a few occasions in 2016. When an error is made the Washington Post responsibly makes corrections. (5/18/2016) Updated (1/12/2017)

So yes, there's a little negative in there, but overall, your source is giving WaPo some pretty high marks.
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Bias means a site can't be trusted to present the facts honestly or fairly. That throws any "facts" into serious question. Both sides can show facts. Fox News presents facts from their perspective. Trump presented facts (a signed agreement) that Stormy Daniels didn't have a sexual relationship with him. That's a fact. Do you believe that fact? Facts don't mean diddly squat if they are not presented fairly.
 
I voted no. Firing him will turn him into a martyr and Deity for the Left. Let him flail about aimlessly a little while longer.
 
Moderate Right said:
Facts don't mean diddly squat if they are not presented fairly.
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No, facts still matter, sorry. You're trying to throw the baby out with the bath water.

In reality, fact based reporting and investigative analysis, even if biased, is worlds better than the conspiracy theory peddling of nonsense and flagrant emotions that one gets on Fox and Friends, Hannity, Dobbs, etc.
 
Moderate Right said:
Please explain to me how a list of Mueller's team proves Trump to be guilty of anything?
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Please explain to me why you ran, tail tucked between your legs, when extensive, verified information was given to you and you whined about where it was hosted.
 
Moderate Right said:
Mueller has found nothing on Trump and has said so. You guys just don't like that fact.
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No, he hasn't said so.

Constantly being dishonest about things like this indicate that you're either not familiar with the investigation or it frightens you to the point where it's hard to face.
 
sKiTzo said:
I don't think anyone can argue that this investigation was not opened purely for political reasons and based on nothing more than wishful speculation. Well over a year later (however many man hours that is - it'a LOT of taxpayer money)

At some point, one has to consider that this man has been "investigating" this every day for more than a year now. He obviously has not come up with anything with which to bring charges or he would have done so. Neither will he close the investigation. Instead, he chooses to conduct an illegal raid on the office of Trumps attorney while the "Russia" investigation goes on in limbo.

Clearly, he is either incompetent, or he is abusing his position in government by using it for personal political exploitations AGAINST a sitting POTUS (at the expense of taxpayers), and for this he should be fired. Both are valid reasons to fire him.
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I’d like to see the whole “Special Fisherman” program go to SCOTUS. You can’t argue that you can have a license to use every tool of government to just go out searching for a crime, and if there is none, keep searching wider with no restraint and call that due process. It’s harassment by the big foot of the government squashing anyone it pleases.

If we must have such things they should be required to report ever three months, and be finished in a year because it is intertwined in our electoral process, and by its very nature, political.
 
chuckiechan said:
I’d like to see the whole “Special Fisherman” program go to SCOTUS. You can’t argue that you can have a license to use every tool of government to just go out searching for a crime, and if there is none, keep searching wider with no restraint and call that due process. It’s harassment by the big foot of the government squashing anyone it pleases.

If we must have such things they should be required to report ever three months, and be finished in a year because it is intertwined in our electoral process, and by its very nature, political.
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It's not that difficult to see - yet so many are blind. Willingly blind. The democrats have exposed themselves as the most lying, cheating, scandalous, deceitful bunch and we see evidence of this DAILY. Pushing to do away with the 2nd amendment and now even FREE SPEECH. How is that "LIBERAL"? 92% so far have voted no. The founding fathers never fathomed that one day there would be a people that WANT their free speech taken away, and WANT to be disarmed...is it the flouride in the water? What is going on here?
 
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