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Will Trump respond militarily to Syria's latest use of chemical weapons?

Will Trump respond militarily to Syria's latest use of chemical weapons?

  • Yes

    Votes: 15 53.6%

  • No

    Votes: 7 25.0%

  • Other - Pls explain

    Votes: 6 21.4%
  • Total voters
    28
ecofarm said:
Wow. Women and children painfully slaughtered by the chemical weapons of a dictator and you don't give a fork. I can see why Obama abandoned his red line.
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Totally mischaracterizing my point, thanks.


What good are we really doing, intervening in that ****ed up region? We put out one fire and five more spring up. The good we try to do turns to **** in short order, because too many in that region don't want peace... unless it is the peace of "all my enemies are dead".

So we bomb somebody. We bombed somebody a few months ago for this **** and they did it again.

We sorta-kinda fixed Iraq (or tried to) and then Syria and two-three other countries go up in flames.

It. Never. ****ing. Ends. There.
 
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Goshin said:
Totally mischaracterizing my point, thanks.
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No, you don't care if military action is taken. That's exactly the apathy that allowed our President to walk away from a violated red line.
 
ecofarm said:
No, you don't care if military action is taken. That's exactly the apathy that allowed our President to walk away from a violated red line.
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Read the edited version.

Bomb, don't bomb... in short order its just more of the same.
 
Goshin said:
Read the edited version.

Bomb, don't bomb... in short order its just more of the same.
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This far, Trump has shown respect for the red line. I expect he will stand fast. The more who become like you, the easier it will be for him and thus us to walk away from chems on civilians by their tyranny.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Which decades would those be? Please let me know which decades exist in history where the USA was both a superpower, and an isolationist nation?
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Everything past WWII where we didn't get involved with WWI or WWII until way later into the wars. It worked out super well for us to have the rest of the world blowing each other up, and wasting their resources, while we remained pretty much in the clear.
 
Yes, Trump will load up every US military cargo plane full of Big Macs, drop all the Big Macs across Syria & Russia, and then Trump will blame Obama for McDonalds for not having Big Macs to serve for the next four weeks. Trump will then have to go on a diet of Stormy Daniels panties & bras, which have no nutritional value ................
 
JANFU said:
If there is a response it would target military assets
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You are still not getting it, even if it were military assets the us attacking the syrian govt would be the same as russia attacking britain, it is an open declaration of war against syria and by default it's allies russia and iran, the even could escalate further with china being involved where it essentially becomes ww3 at that point.
 
Fishking said:
Everything past WWII where we didn't get involved with WWI or WWII until way later into the wars. It worked out super well for us to have the rest of the world blowing each other up, and wasting their resources, while we remained pretty much in the clear.
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We were not a superpower before during or after WWI. We didn’t become a superpower until after WWII. The isolationist stance we took in 1939 and most of 1940 almost won Germany the war. We were not isolationist that entire time. We Imposed sanctions on Japan in 39 and cut off their supply of steel and oil and other raw materials after they invaded Manchuria. We gave The UK naval destroyers and escorted convoys bound for the UK and the Soviet Union with our navy. We were far from isolationist then. But we still were not a superpower. In June of 39 our army had but 187,000 men, smaller Portugal, and only slightly larger than Bulgaria - ranked 19th in size worldwide. Hardly a superpower.

Our initial isolationism cost tens of millions of lives. France fell. The Netherlands fell. Poland fell and a great part of their population was massacred and concentration camps set all over their lands. England almost fell and suffered greatly. Northern Africa was ravaged. Asia was swallowed up and millions more died. The western Pacific was enslaved or murdered.

And we damned near lost ourselves. Certain lucky events saved our butts - Hitler betraying Stalin and invading Russia; Hitler demanding his generals fight to the last man to take Stalingrad that killed almost a million of his soldiers; the Brittish breaking Enigma; the US Navy breaking the Japanese code before the battle of Midway allowing us to destroy the IJN carrier numbers superiority. Before those events, we were all losing the war. Japan was unstoppable, and so was Germany.

But for the Grace of God go I. Our isolationism almost doomed us. Our allies got their collective asses handed to them before we entered the war, and so did we for a long time after we entered the war until Midway, and in North Africa we would have lost our entire army if not for Montgomery and some damned brave Englishmen. Then Patton showed up, Rommel got sick and went home to hospital, and the remaining German commander evacuated to Italy. Luck.

Again, isolationism has never worked for us, or anyone else, except to help dictators maintain control like in Myanmar/Burma.
 
Yes. And i think it should be something along the lines of decimating Syria's air force capablities for a good long time.
 
cuban smokes said:
Yes, Trump will load up every US military cargo plane full of Big Macs, drop all the Big Macs across Syria & Russia, and then Trump will blame Obama for McDonalds for not having Big Macs to serve for the next four weeks. Trump will then have to go on a diet of Stormy Daniels panties & bras, which have no nutritional value ................
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Why must you pollute threads with nonsense?
 
My vote is yes, Trump will respond with force. What Assad did to his own people using chemical weapons does not set well with the International community either. Trump inherited a disastrous mess from the previous administration. Whether it be Syria, North Korea, Iran, Yemen, Lybia or Russia, the Obama administration left a pail of fail to be cleaned up.
 
Goshin said:
Totally mischaracterizing my point, thanks.


What good are we really doing, intervening in that ****ed up region? We put out one fire and five more spring up. The good we try to do turns to **** in short order, because too many in that region don't want peace... unless it is the peace of "all my enemies are dead".

So we bomb somebody. We bombed somebody a few months ago for this **** and they did it again.

We sorta-kinda fixed Iraq (or tried to) and then Syria and two-three other countries go up in flames.

It. Never. ****ing. Ends. There.
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Greetings, Goshin. :2wave:

Well said! :thumbs:
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Goshin. :2wave:

Well said! :thumbs:
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T'was my frustration talking. I *do* care that people got gassed with chem agents... it should not be done. But there's a lot goes on around that part of the world that falls under "this should never happen" and it seems to be beyond our ability to fix. I'm not sure what the answer is, or if there is one that can be imposed by an outside power at all.
 
Fletch said:
You mean exactly what Trump said he wanted to do but caught flack from warmongering liberals. When ISIS is done we should leave.
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ISIS will never be done...it will simply evolve into something else, somewhere else like Al Qaeda did.

Bush opened up hornets nest when he invaded Iraq. Now the US is obligated to stay and fix what it broke.
 
gulfman said:
yes I am
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Welcome...you going to love the liberal/Demo antics going on around here.
I can honestly say the Eddie Murphy type comic relief threads and posts against our President Trump can't be beat. Both mrmcq(magoo) and Paul(livelonger,which he decided to die) would envy the responses.
So sit back,gather the family around and enjoy the frolics. After reading a few liberal/Demo threads and posts you'll agree this is better than SNL.
I want to add about the centrists,progressives,moderates and those in between are fence straddlers. Do pretend they know what they're talking about,it will make them happy.
 
Moot said:
ISIS will never be done...it will simply evolve into something else, somewhere else like Al Qaeda did.

Bush opened up hornets nest when he invaded Iraq. Now the US is obligated to stay and fix what it broke.
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You mean like Obama did?
 
Moot said:
Obama didn't invade Iraq.
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I thought you said 'the US was obligated to fix what it broke' yet you spare Obama any criticism whatsoever for pulling out of Iraq and allowing ISIS to flourish. And as for Syria, that is a problem Obama ignored for 5 years and that Trump inherited from him.
 
I hope the USA doesn't accidently bomb an abortion clinic in Syria.
 
Fletch said:
I thought you said 'the US was obligated to fix what it broke' yet you spare Obama any criticism whatsoever for pulling out of Iraq and allowing ISIS to flourish. And as for Syria, that is a problem Obama ignored for 5 years and that Trump inherited from him.
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The US is a representative democracy and as such the US is obligated to fix what it broke regardless of who is the president. It's a lot harder and takes longer to fix something than it does to break it.
 
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