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Are NRA members generally more dangerous people than non members? [W:629]

Are NRA members generally more dangerous people than non members?

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No because NRA members understand the rights and responsibilities of firearm ownership. And BTW, few criminals belong to the NRA unless California made them one with some sneaky, unpublished rule or another.
 
calamity said:
Well...if they're stupid enough to put him front and center---that's the price to be paid.
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He put himself front and center of the gun debate, not the NRA... It's Ted Nugent. He just happens to be an NRA member. Of course this does not change (in any way) the fact that your statement was moronic. :lamo
 
Fiddytree said:
Yup....
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It's usually white kids that shoot up schools, so maybe the minority kids are the ones benefitting from the additional discipline? Looks like they need to beat more white kids. Whatcha think?
 
apdst said:
It's usually white kids that shoot up schools, so maybe the minority kids are the ones benefitting from the additional discipline? Looks like they need to beat more white kids. Whatcha think?
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While a number of school officials and school boards (and the occasional state teacher union branch) want to maintain or increase the latitude they have in physically punishing or arresting students, I am a strong proponent of moving in the other direction.
 
I don't know if the NRA's members are more dangerous, but the NRA's ads are really good at creating the impression that they are.



 
X Factor said:
What do you think? Attaching poll.
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No, NRA members as an overall group are not dangerous.
Some lunatics may have NRA membership, but it's not their membership in the NRA that makes them dangerous, it's their personalities or radical religious or political beliefs which often do, and the NRA, while extremely political as a lobbying group, is not as yet advocating dangerous political ideologies. It is advocating for a complete dissolution of all or nearly all gun control laws.
It's leadership occasionally attacks the opposition using sloppy propaganda but that cannot be equated with dangerous ideologies.
And the NRA doesn't involve itself in religion at all.

The NRA is not responsible for the sanity or overall mental health of its members.
 
I would put a wager that NRA members are actually more peaceful than your average citizen. They probably have lower crime rates.
 
Fiddytree said:
Re: #2

The institutional range has gaps, but we've never meaningfully developed a community-based system. Outside of SAMHSA System of Care grants and states using Medicaid state plan amendment waivers 1915c and 1915i, we are seriously lacking basic healthcare for folks. If anything we need a hell of a lot more emphasis on "walking the streets." Mental health care is like any other chronic health condition, but we largely wait until crisis mode until we serve folks, and sometimes, not even then.

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It is a racial issue, like it is a disability issue. School staff disproportionately respond to and punish more harshly minority students. They also physically discipline (paddling, seclusion and restraint) students at far, far higher rates than the rest of the population. Much of it over petty nonsense, but sometimes staff do these things because "they feel threatened." SROs are also inappropriately being used across the country to be the enforcers of school policies. Arming staff makes it that much more dangerous.
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#3 I don't think that's the case. First you would have to prove that mass shootings are committed by white people more than anyone else..... the last time I calculated(which was a year ago) It seems they only have around 10% greater chance of being mass shooters than the average population.... then Asians have a higher chance.... then arabs have 30 times more likely chance.

Second, you have to connect it to suicide rate. White males also have the highest suicide rate. I think it's because if you are an outcasted white male with bad parents, literally no one likes you.... and you will not get any sort of special treatment from anyone, ever. Unlike the black community, which has high in-group preference... white people do not give a **** about other white people... while that is not the case for black people.
 
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its a loaded question. as a retired LE official I know for a fact that NRA members are far less likely to commit crimes of violence than the average person. I doubt most of the people on this board, though, are any more dangerous, whether they are members or not. However, NRA members, on the whole, are probably a bit more "dangerous" to armed or violent criminals than the average citizen and certainly more so than those who are anti gun ownership
 
celticwar17 said:
I would put a wager that NRA members are actually more peaceful than your average citizen. They probably have lower crime rates.
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That may be. However, they would be better diplomats for their cause if they chose a more sympathetic spokesperson instead of an internet troll, and if they didn't create ads whose purpose strongly speak of insurrection and threats. It's a little disingenuous...or perhaps just tone deaf...to say that NRA members are more peaceful while simultaneously crafting messages of division and fear.
 
MSgt said:
Considering that there are only 5 million NRA members (cult members) versus 325 million people in the American population, of which 42% of people in the US live in households with guns...the question of the poll doesn't seem to have a point.

In my very earned opinion in this very ungrateful country, the most dangerous person to my Right is the person who can't reconcile his Rights to the reality that he demands that my Rights be defined by the lowest denominator of the undeserved population who has the Right to abuse them.
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Law abiding citizens have the right not to be victims. That's what the left doesn't understand. They want all the people who are an obvious danger to society to run around loose, making victims of everyone else. I mean right down to non-violent crimes. Why should my house get broken into by a career criminal who has been arrested twenty times for breaking into people's homes and then released yet again just so that I can be the 21st victim?
 
apdst said:
It's usually white kids that shoot up schools, so maybe the minority kids are the ones benefitting from the additional discipline? Looks like they need to beat more white kids. Whatcha think?
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Screw em with logic!
 
MSgt said:
Considering that there are only 5 million NRA members (cult members) versus 325 million people in the American population, of which 42% of people in the US live in households with guns...the question of the poll doesn't seem to have a point.

In my very earned opinion in this very ungrateful country, the most dangerous person to my Right is the person who can't reconcile his Rights to the reality that he demands that my Rights be defined by the lowest denominator of the undeserved population who has the Right to abuse them.
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'when someone calls NRA members "cult members'" you can pretty well write off anything he has to say on the issue as nutty

the rest of that drivel sounds like some sort of Heinleinian fascist craving nonsense
 
Moderate Right said:
I don't know of many mass shooters who are members of the NRA.
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Perhaps not, but there are other ways to be dangerous. In addition to the aforementioned videos that create a message that doesn't exactly speak of peaceful intentions, there's also the matter of the NRA lobbying to maintain laws that result in the fast and easy flow of firearms into the public.
 
Cardinal said:
That may be. However, they would be better diplomats for their cause if they chose a more sympathetic spokesperson instead of an internet troll, and if they didn't create ads whose purpose strongly speak of insurrection and threats. It's a little disingenuous...or perhaps just tone deaf...to say that NRA members are more peaceful while simultaneously crafting messages of division and fear.
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The left are the masters of crafting messages of division and fear.
 
TurtleDude said:
'when someone calls NRA members "cult members'" you can pretty well write off anything he has to say on the issue as nutty

the rest of that drivel sounds like some sort of Heinleinian fascist craving nonsense
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Say's the NRA cult member who represents gun nutty. Heil guns! Let's not pretend that you represent anything beyond that.
 
Cardinal said:
Perhaps not, but there are other ways to be dangerous. In addition to the aforementioned videos that create a message that doesn't exactly speak of peaceful intentions, there's also the matter of the NRA lobbying to maintain laws that result in the fast and easy flow of firearms into the public.
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Quite true. Just look at the antifa, who are for violence and property destruction, against the police and all authority, and are for anarchy. And yet liberals cozy up to them as heroes.
 
Moderate Right said:
The left are the masters of crafting messages of division and fear.
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Sounds like that would be a fascinating thread. You should start a new one dedicated to that topic.
 
MSgt said:
Say's the NRA cult member who represents gun nutty. Heil guns! Let's not pretend that you represent anything beyond that.
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Sorry but this NRA member doesn't have any use for those who want a goose stepping fascist country where the military pretends it is superior to civilians or thinks they should have rights that others cannot enjoy.
 
TurtleDude said:
'when someone calls NRA members "cult members'" you can pretty well write off anything he has to say on the issue as nutty

the rest of that drivel sounds like some sort of Heinleinian fascist craving nonsense
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Cult fits
 
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