Is Trump A Cult Leader?

NeverTrumpGOP said:

I have only been following politics for the past 16 years, I am only 29, so I have not experienced speaking with much other supporters of other candidates throughout history. Like I imagine some of the older members on this forum have. What I have learned speaking with level-headed older people, is that they have never seen anything like Trump's movement in American political history. On twitter it's known as Cult45

As I see it:
Cozying up to racists, xenophobes, wife beaters, rapists, nazis, the KKK, right wing nut jobs and even pedophiles is now a common practice among the most conservative members of the GOP in an effort to form their own anti-establishment MAGA coalition, just so they can be against social norms. (are they really that jealous of the hippies??)

Hidden behind his idealistic policies and infamous talking points which always seem to be poor attempts at trolling, there is a fundamental disconnect between the political divide of old which separated the American people via issues and not by trollish gotchas, whataboutisms, and even basic fundamental institutions or dare I say, facts...

The attacks on the media and the intelligence agencies by Trump supporters are unprecedented in American History so much so that liberals are now their cheerleaders. Liberals who as far as I am aware were always skeptical of such institutions. Now of course members of the cult will pin that on the liberals and say they have become too trusting (so that's bad?), maybe, but is it also possible that conservatives have went down the rabbit hole of crazy?? I'll trust established institutions over some crazy alternative method every time unless if it's a new technology that's been proven and I like.

Which brings me to my final point, from the top down, Trump is teaching his followers how to play the game like he does. I mean, conservatives have always been very good at being the opposition, but in 2016 they weaponized it in the media, and even more on social media for the sole purpose of trolling and destroying certain institutions. Certain norms. Certain facts. In the past people would call that mayhem or anarchy.

They say stuff without thinking. Like "liberals suck, and shouldn't be taken seriously." Who's a liberal you may ask? Anybody who doesn't support Trump. It is this behavior and their willingness to not care about the various scandals plaguing the WH and Trump as a person, that leads me to put all Trump supporters together into a cult. And somehow that leader is Trump.

I have no idea what they see in him, why a quasi-liberal reality TV star who poses as a businessman should have any relation to Joe Schmoe voter, but whatever it is. His hair, his money, his women, his charisma. Trump became their leader and they will follow him to Nuclear War, if necessary. (Murder was so last year.)

I would particularly like to hear opinions from older members of this forum if you feel like Trump supporters have cultish behavior. I can almost predict what older conservative Trump supporters will say. Obama had a cult of supporters too. True he did, but his support greatly evaporated by 2012 and even then the crazy people were pretty much silent. Trump OTOH, has actually hardened his entire base around him in a year's time and he's managed to bypass scandal over scandal. Without losing a lick of support from his main base.

I don't even think they care if Trump fires Mueller, or know why that's bad.

I doubt any meaningful conversation, comparing the history of partisan bickering will come from this poll, but we shall see.

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Checkerboard Strangler said:

I don't think it is possible to find any REAL acid anymore but if I ever find myself up in your part of "Canadia" and you want to shroom out, I'm in, and so is my wife. :2wave:

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NeverTrumpGOP said:

I have only been following politics for the past 16 years, I am only 29, so I have not experienced speaking with much other supporters of other candidates throughout history. Like I imagine some of the older members on this forum have. What I have learned speaking with level-headed older people, is that they have never seen anything like Trump's movement in American political history. On twitter it's known as Cult45

As I see it:
Cozying up to racists, xenophobes, wife beaters, rapists, nazis, the KKK, right wing nut jobs and even pedophiles is now a common practice among the most conservative members of the GOP in an effort to form their own anti-establishment MAGA coalition, just so they can be against social norms. (are they really that jealous of the hippies??)

Hidden behind his idealistic policies and infamous talking points which always seem to be poor attempts at trolling, there is a fundamental disconnect between the political divide of old which separated the American people via issues and not by trollish gotchas, whataboutisms, and even basic fundamental institutions or dare I say, facts...

The attacks on the media and the intelligence agencies by Trump supporters are unprecedented in American History so much so that liberals are now their cheerleaders. Liberals who as far as I am aware were always skeptical of such institutions. Now of course members of the cult will pin that on the liberals and say they have become too trusting (so that's bad?), maybe, but is it also possible that conservatives have went down the rabbit hole of crazy?? I'll trust established institutions over some crazy alternative method every time unless if it's a new technology that's been proven and I like.

Which brings me to my final point, from the top down, Trump is teaching his followers how to play the game like he does. I mean, conservatives have always been very good at being the opposition, but in 2016 they weaponized it in the media, and even more on social media for the sole purpose of trolling and destroying certain institutions. Certain norms. Certain facts. In the past people would call that mayhem or anarchy.

They say stuff without thinking. Like "liberals suck, and shouldn't be taken seriously." Who's a liberal you may ask? Anybody who doesn't support Trump. It is this behavior and their willingness to not care about the various scandals plaguing the WH and Trump as a person, that leads me to put all Trump supporters together into a cult. And somehow that leader is Trump.

I have no idea what they see in him, why a quasi-liberal reality TV star who poses as a businessman should have any relation to Joe Schmoe voter, but whatever it is. His hair, his money, his women, his charisma. Trump became their leader and they will follow him to Nuclear War, if necessary. (Murder was so last year.)

I would particularly like to hear opinions from older members of this forum if you feel like Trump supporters have cultish behavior. I can almost predict what older conservative Trump supporters will say. Obama had a cult of supporters too. True he did, but his support greatly evaporated by 2012 and even then the crazy people were pretty much silent. Trump OTOH, has actually hardened his entire base around him in a year's time and he's managed to bypass scandal over scandal. Without losing a lick of support from his main base.

I don't even think they care if Trump fires Mueller, or know why that's bad.

I doubt any meaningful conversation, comparing the history of partisan bickering will come from this poll, but we shall see.

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PIPEWRENCH said:

It is quite clear you know little to nothing about Trump supporters. Most Trump supporters were hippies who evolved into middle class, tax paying, family oriented, church going, respectable people, who make up the suburbs and heartland of this country. Yes their are a couple of pockets of KKK that make up les than 1% of the population.
Most of the right are much nicer people than the gangs and scum that kill each other in the urban jungles over stolen property or their colors. That is the left. In the heartland made of the right if you break down people will stop and help you. In the urban jungle you break down you will be lucky to escape with your life. This is first hand experience. I have lived in both and know the truth.

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X Factor said:

Let's be real, with a few exceptions, all the lefties will vote yes, and righties no.

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Acadia said:

Interestingly, this fails to even mention that the alternative was way worse to millions of Americans. Well, that tends to blow a hole in this theory, doesn't it?
Also, if you know anything about Trump and his life, he was seriously contemplating politics long before he became a reality tv star.

eta- if God told Oprah to run for President (and hey, it still could happen, right?!), the Left would again start peeing themselves over the very prospect.

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Kreton said:

Well... Trump is a disgusting, racist, manipulative, retarded piece of trash. His supporters are brainwashed racists who support whatever he tells them to without question even in when faced with facts. Sounds almost like a cult but they need a name......no cult is complete without a name......oooh Republicans! They have named themselves.

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NeverTrumpGOP said:

I have only been following politics for the past 16 years, I am only 29, so I have not experienced speaking with much other supporters of other candidates throughout history. Like I imagine some of the older members on this forum have. What I have learned speaking with level-headed older people, is that they have never seen anything like Trump's movement in American political history. On twitter it's known as Cult45

As I see it:
Cozying up to racists, xenophobes, wife beaters, rapists, nazis, the KKK, right wing nut jobs and even pedophiles is now a common practice among the most conservative members of the GOP in an effort to form their own anti-establishment MAGA coalition, just so they can be against social norms. (are they really that jealous of the hippies??)

Hidden behind his idealistic policies and infamous talking points which always seem to be poor attempts at trolling, there is a fundamental disconnect between the political divide of old which separated the American people via issues and not by trollish gotchas, whataboutisms, and even basic fundamental institutions or dare I say, facts...

The attacks on the media and the intelligence agencies by Trump supporters are unprecedented in American History so much so that liberals are now their cheerleaders. Liberals who as far as I am aware were always skeptical of such institutions. Now of course members of the cult will pin that on the liberals and say they have become too trusting (so that's bad?), maybe, but is it also possible that conservatives have went down the rabbit hole of crazy?? I'll trust established institutions over some crazy alternative method every time unless if it's a new technology that's been proven and I like.

Which brings me to my final point, from the top down, Trump is teaching his followers how to play the game like he does. I mean, conservatives have always been very good at being the opposition, but in 2016 they weaponized it in the media, and even more on social media for the sole purpose of trolling and destroying certain institutions. Certain norms. Certain facts. In the past people would call that mayhem or anarchy.

They say stuff without thinking. Like "liberals suck, and shouldn't be taken seriously." Who's a liberal you may ask? Anybody who doesn't support Trump. It is this behavior and their willingness to not care about the various scandals plaguing the WH and Trump as a person, that leads me to put all Trump supporters together into a cult. And somehow that leader is Trump.

I have no idea what they see in him, why a quasi-liberal reality TV star who poses as a businessman should have any relation to Joe Schmoe voter, but whatever it is. His hair, his money, his women, his charisma. Trump became their leader and they will follow him to Nuclear War, if necessary. (Murder was so last year.)

I would particularly like to hear opinions from older members of this forum if you feel like Trump supporters have cultish behavior. I can almost predict what older conservative Trump supporters will say. Obama had a cult of supporters too. True he did, but his support greatly evaporated by 2012 and even then the crazy people were pretty much silent. Trump OTOH, has actually hardened his entire base around him in a year's time and he's managed to bypass scandal over scandal. Without losing a lick of support from his main base.

I don't even think they care if Trump fires Mueller, or know why that's bad.

I doubt any meaningful conversation, comparing the history of partisan bickering will come from this poll, but we shall see.

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Fletch said:

Well, I am a Trump supporter, am not a racist, nor brainwashed and your post is not an example of 'facts' but uninformed opinion.

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NeverTrumpGOP said:

I have only been following politics for the past 16 years, I am only 29, so I have not experienced speaking with much other supporters of other candidates throughout history. Like I imagine some of the older members on this forum have. What I have learned speaking with level-headed older people, is that they have never seen anything like Trump's movement in American political history. On twitter it's known as Cult45

As I see it:
Cozying up to racists, xenophobes, wife beaters, rapists, nazis, the KKK, right wing nut jobs and even pedophiles is now a common practice among the most conservative members of the GOP in an effort to form their own anti-establishment MAGA coalition, just so they can be against social norms. (are they really that jealous of the hippies??)

Hidden behind his idealistic policies and infamous talking points which always seem to be poor attempts at trolling, there is a fundamental disconnect between the political divide of old which separated the American people via issues and not by trollish gotchas, whataboutisms, and even basic fundamental institutions or dare I say, facts...

The attacks on the media and the intelligence agencies by Trump supporters are unprecedented in American History so much so that liberals are now their cheerleaders. Liberals who as far as I am aware were always skeptical of such institutions. Now of course members of the cult will pin that on the liberals and say they have become too trusting (so that's bad?), maybe, but is it also possible that conservatives have went down the rabbit hole of crazy?? I'll trust established institutions over some crazy alternative method every time unless if it's a new technology that's been proven and I like.

Which brings me to my final point, from the top down, Trump is teaching his followers how to play the game like he does. I mean, conservatives have always been very good at being the opposition, but in 2016 they weaponized it in the media, and even more on social media for the sole purpose of trolling and destroying certain institutions. Certain norms. Certain facts. In the past people would call that mayhem or anarchy.

They say stuff without thinking. Like "liberals suck, and shouldn't be taken seriously." Who's a liberal you may ask? Anybody who doesn't support Trump. It is this behavior and their willingness to not care about the various scandals plaguing the WH and Trump as a person, that leads me to put all Trump supporters together into a cult. And somehow that leader is Trump.

I have no idea what they see in him, why a quasi-liberal reality TV star who poses as a businessman should have any relation to Joe Schmoe voter, but whatever it is. His hair, his money, his women, his charisma. Trump became their leader and they will follow him to Nuclear War, if necessary. (Murder was so last year.)

I would particularly like to hear opinions from older members of this forum if you feel like Trump supporters have cultish behavior. I can almost predict what older conservative Trump supporters will say. Obama had a cult of supporters too. True he did, but his support greatly evaporated by 2012 and even then the crazy people were pretty much silent. Trump OTOH, has actually hardened his entire base around him in a year's time and he's managed to bypass scandal over scandal. Without losing a lick of support from his main base.

I don't even think they care if Trump fires Mueller, or know why that's bad.

I doubt any meaningful conversation, comparing the history of partisan bickering will come from this poll, but we shall see.

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Hawkeye10 said:

He is a Rebellion Leader.

This was always obvious.

But how few were able to figure it out.







EDIT: I did not read your post.

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NeverTrumpGOP said:

I have only been following politics for the past 16 years, I am only 29, so I have not experienced speaking with much other supporters of other candidates throughout history. Like I imagine some of the older members on this forum have. What I have learned speaking with level-headed older people, is that they have never seen anything like Trump's movement in American political history. On twitter it's known as Cult45

As I see it:
Cozying up to racists, xenophobes, wife beaters, rapists, nazis, the KKK, right wing nut jobs and even pedophiles is now a common practice among the most conservative members of the GOP in an effort to form their own anti-establishment MAGA coalition, just so they can be against social norms. (are they really that jealous of the hippies??)

Hidden behind his idealistic policies and infamous talking points which always seem to be poor attempts at trolling, there is a fundamental disconnect between the political divide of old which separated the American people via issues and not by trollish gotchas, whataboutisms, and even basic fundamental institutions or dare I say, facts...

The attacks on the media and the intelligence agencies by Trump supporters are unprecedented in American History so much so that liberals are now their cheerleaders. Liberals who as far as I am aware were always skeptical of such institutions. Now of course members of the cult will pin that on the liberals and say they have become too trusting (so that's bad?), maybe, but is it also possible that conservatives have went down the rabbit hole of crazy?? I'll trust established institutions over some crazy alternative method every time unless if it's a new technology that's been proven and I like.

Which brings me to my final point, from the top down, Trump is teaching his followers how to play the game like he does. I mean, conservatives have always been very good at being the opposition, but in 2016 they weaponized it in the media, and even more on social media for the sole purpose of trolling and destroying certain institutions. Certain norms. Certain facts. In the past people would call that mayhem or anarchy.

They say stuff without thinking. Like "liberals suck, and shouldn't be taken seriously." Who's a liberal you may ask? Anybody who doesn't support Trump. It is this behavior and their willingness to not care about the various scandals plaguing the WH and Trump as a person, that leads me to put all Trump supporters together into a cult. And somehow that leader is Trump.

I have no idea what they see in him, why a quasi-liberal reality TV star who poses as a businessman should have any relation to Joe Schmoe voter, but whatever it is. His hair, his money, his women, his charisma. Trump became their leader and they will follow him to Nuclear War, if necessary. (Murder was so last year.)

I would particularly like to hear opinions from older members of this forum if you feel like Trump supporters have cultish behavior. I can almost predict what older conservative Trump supporters will say. Obama had a cult of supporters too. True he did, but his support greatly evaporated by 2012 and even then the crazy people were pretty much silent. Trump OTOH, has actually hardened his entire base around him in a year's time and he's managed to bypass scandal over scandal. Without losing a lick of support from his main base.

I don't even think they care if Trump fires Mueller, or know why that's bad.

I doubt any meaningful conversation, comparing the history of partisan bickering will come from this poll, but we shall see.

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