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Was the firing of Andrew McCabe politically motivated?

Was the firing of Andrew McCabe politically motivated?

  • Yes

    Votes: 67 68.4%

  • No

    Votes: 24 24.5%

  • Not Sure

    Votes: 7 7.1%
  • Total voters
    98
Winston

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The stated reason for termination is "misleading investigators about disclosing information regarding the Hillary Foundation investigation" and "lacked candor under oath"

The first excuse is absurd. The 2nd one is vague.

What say ye?
 
Winston said:
The stated reason for termination is "misleading investigators about disclosing information regarding the Hillary Foundation investigation" and "lacked candor under oath"

The first excuse is absurd. The 2nd one is vague.

What say ye?
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Ye says he leaked and lied about leaking.
 
Winston said:
The stated reason for termination is "misleading investigators about disclosing information regarding the Hillary Foundation investigation" and "lacked candor under oath"

The first excuse is absurd. The 2nd one is vague.

What say ye?
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The FBI office of personnel and conduct stated they recommended him being fired for leaking information to the press. So why turn it political?
 
jdog21 said:
The FBI office of personnel and conduct stated they recommended him being fired for leaking information to the press. So why turn it political?
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Okay, the alleged leak occurred in Nov. of 2016. Why wasn't action taken then?

Also, the leak was to the benefit of the Trump campaign. So, who in their infinite wisdom believes that Trump and the DOJ are that concerned about defending the honor of Hillary Clinton?

Also consider that candidate Trump publicly called for Russia to hack the emails of Clinton. I can't get it straight, are leaks great or are leaks bad?
 
Winston said:
Okay, the alleged leak occurred in Nov. of 2016. Why wasn't action taken then?

Also, the leak was to the benefit of the Trump campaign. So, who in their infinite wisdom believes that Trump and the DOJ are that concerned about defending the honor of Hillary Clinton?

Also consider that candidate Trump publicly called for Russia to hack the emails of Clinton. I can't get it straight, are leaks great or are leaks bad?
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My personal feeling is anyone in government that leaks something should be fired and possibly brought up on charges.
Leaks can do two things, it can be good for the people cause now they have more information, or the leak can be made to make something look bad/good to the people when the opposite is true.
 
Winston said:
Okay, the alleged leak occurred in Nov. of 2016. Why wasn't action taken then?

Also, the leak was to the benefit of the Trump campaign. So, who in their infinite wisdom believes that Trump and the DOJ are that concerned about defending the honor of Hillary Clinton?

Also consider that candidate Trump publicly called for Russia to hack the emails of Clinton. I can't get it straight, are leaks great or are leaks bad?
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It's facts that are great. You seem to be confused about them.
 
Winston said:
The stated reason for termination is "misleading investigators about disclosing information regarding the Hillary Foundation investigation" and "lacked candor under oath"

The first excuse is absurd. The 2nd one is vague.

What say ye?
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The poll question is rather vague: McCabe was fired for being political himself while lying about and leaking stuff to try to hide his political motivation.
 
Winston said:
The stated reason for termination is "misleading investigators about disclosing information regarding the Hillary Foundation investigation" and "lacked candor under oath"

The first excuse is absurd. The 2nd one is vague.

What say ye?
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I don't know. But there isn't a single thing that goes on or happens in Washington that isn't political or politically motivated. So, saying what I just did, then the answer is yes, in some form or another.

Perhaps the question should be since everything down to the grass growing in D.C. is political, the question should be did McCabe deserve it?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The poll question is rather vague: McCabe was fired for being political himself while lying about and leaking stuff to try to hide his political motivation.
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the stuff he leaked benefitted Trump.

He's accused of being a Trump partisan?
 
Winston said:
The stated reason for termination is "misleading investigators about disclosing information regarding the Hillary Foundation investigation" and "lacked candor under oath"

The first excuse is absurd. The 2nd one is vague.

What say ye?
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Perjury and lying to the FBI are indictable offenses. What are you wondering about?

In that McCabe's actions were political in intent and outcome, the firing was politically motivated. Motivated by the political actions of the fired person.
 
Not only was it politically motivated but is was spiteful -- firing a guy a few days before retirement to deny him his hard earned pension. I hope other FBI agents are mad as hell.
 
code1211 said:
Perjury and lying to the FBI are indictable offenses. What are you wondering about?

In that McCabe's actions were political in intent and outcome, the firing was politically motivated. Motivated by the political actions of the fired person.
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I mean, that Andrew McCabe was fired so, that when he turns witness to the Mueller probe the Trump defense can question his credibility.
 
I'm having difficulty choosing between "yes," "well, duh" and an eye roll for my answer.

Anonymous polls suck.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The poll question is rather vague: McCabe was fired for being political himself while lying about and leaking stuff to try to hide his political motivation.
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Actually, McCabe was fired because Trump does not want everyone to find out that he is bed with the russian mafia
 
Perotista said:
I don't know. But there isn't a single thing that goes on or happens in Washington that isn't political or politically motivated. So, saying what I just did, then the answer is yes, in some form or another.

Perhaps the question should be since everything down to the grass growing in D.C. is political, the question should be did McCabe deserve it?
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Well, the OIG would disagree with you. They can't brazenly say that McCabe was fired for political considerations, that is unethical. but, if we know that he was fired for political reasons, then we know the reasons given by the OIG were manufactured for that purpose.

so, if he was fired for political reasons, and it seems a few are in agreement that he was. What were those reasons? the overarching motivation is to discredit him before he cooperates with Mueller. The right braying on about perjury and leaking is just noise, imo. And just like they screamed Benghazi to the high heavens, they will scream perjury.
 
Winston said:
the stuff he leaked benefitted Trump.

He's accused of being a Trump partisan?
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What was the leak? and secondly why does it matter if it helped Trump or hurt Trump leaking information to the press is a fireable offense regardless of who it helps.
 
Winston said:
Well, the OIG would disagree with you. They can't brazenly say that McCabe was fired for political considerations, that is unethical. but, if we know that he was fired for political reasons, then we know the reasons given by the OIG were manufactured for that purpose.

so, if he was fired for political reasons, and it seems a few are in agreement that he was. What were those reasons? the overarching motivation is to discredit him before he cooperates with Mueller. The right braying on about perjury and leaking is just noise, imo. And just like they screamed Benghazi to the high heavens, they will scream perjury.
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Are you suggesting that the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility is lying?
 
bubbabgone said:
You said that before.

What was the leak?
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It was a leak about the Clinton Foundation to the Wall Street Journal that damaged the Clinton campaign. That is the deed that has purportedly caused this "punishment".
 
Winston said:
the stuff he leaked benefitted Trump.

He's accused of being a Trump partisan?
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You may be confusing what Comey leaked (about Hillary's emails) with what McCabe leaked (about Hillary's pay to play).

McCabe leaked that the Clinton Foundation donations and related pay to play allegations were (surely?) unfounded.

Speaking to ABC News, McCabe said that he made a 2016 decision to supply information to a reporter in order to attempt to shift a narrative that he was slow-walking the Clinton Foundation investigation at the agency.

“The department was not impressed with the case, and they didn’t believe it should be going forward,” McCabe said.

In order to get the reporter "off the narrative," McCabe said he authorized the release of “the content of a conversation that I had had with [a senior official] from the Department of Justice” about the investigation.
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His (insanely weak?) defense for denying that he leaked information about an ongoing FBI investigation was that his job was to (selectively?) share information with the press thus his leaks were not really leaks.

"The decision to share information with the media is absolutely within my authority as deputy director,” he added. “I am one of three people in the FBI who has the independent authority to make that decision. People could disagree about the decisions I made ... but the fact is this is not a leak.”
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McCabe: I did not leak to the media | TheHill
 
Winston said:
Yes sir
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Winston said:
It was a leak about the Clinton Foundation to the Wall Street Journal that damaged the Clinton campaign. That is the deed that has purportedly caused this "punishment".
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Well as you state he leaked information right, so that's a fireable offense, so why would you then say the FBI OPR is lying?
 
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