Will you make a personal committment to stop the political hate?

Sampson Simpson said:

Nope, because one side actually has reasons for the hate of complete dishonest idiots, racists and greedy people. There is no redeeming qualities of Trump what so ever, anybody who still supports him are either racists, complete idiots, or greedy and just want tax breaks, who cares if the country gets forked even more in the process. I make no apologies of that, Trump supporters can't defend their position with facts, logic and reasoning, so they are not the same as most liberals that do

Stop pretending both sides are equal. I'm sick of that crap. One side has facts, logic and reasoning, the other side has nothing but rhetoric, lies and deflections

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calamity said:

Nope. **** them and the horse they rode in on. Beat those pissants to a pulp I will.

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..and more hate

Moderate Right said:

Good luck with that. The left has been filled with hate since 2016. They know nothing else.

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Why only 2016? Is it possible they have a good reason? Hate motivated by ignorance, racism, xenophobia, sexism or religious extremism is not the same as hate motivated by the fact that someone is trying to hurt you. One is justified. The other is not. Donald Trump wants to turn this country into a fascist authoritarian dictatorship. If you're supporting that, then we have every right to be pissed of at you for it even if you are incapable of realizing what you're doing.

MrWonka said:

Peace is not the goal. Justice is the goal. Fights need to happen sometimes. In fact, I think one of the single biggest problems we're having in this country is caused by the fact that among friends and family members we do not have enough political arguments. People don't want to reck a party or a family dinner with it. I get that, but what happens instead is we retreat into our respective bubbles were we have confidence everyone will agree with us.


Toothless? Maybe not, but yeah sorry it's mostly ignorant rednecks.



Sorry, but Donald Trump's entire campaign was based on personally attacking people, and spreading racism and hate towards marginalized groups. You don't get to nominate him one day, and then turn around the next and ask people to be nice to you. When Trump was nominated the gloves came off. There's not compromising anymore. These **** heads need to be crushed once and for all. There is no saving the Republican party anymore. It's a lost cause that needs to go the way of the dodo. The Democratic Party and the Libertarian Party are the only two viable political parties in the country at this point, and there will be no peace in this country so long as Republicans are in power.

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MrWonka said:

Why only 2016? Is it possible they have a good reason? Hate motivated by ignorance, racism, xenophobia, sexism or religious extremism is not the same as hate motivated by the fact that someone is trying to hurt you. One is justified. The other is not. Donald Trump wants to turn this country into a fascist authoritarian dictatorship. If you're supporting that, then we have every right to be pissed of at you for it even if you are incapable of realizing what you're doing.

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There's always a reason for hating. Does that make hate justified? Hate is just hate. White Supremacists have a reason to hate Jews and minorities. Whether you agree with it or not, is that hate justified? No hate is justified. It is a negative raw emotion. Hate will never go away unless one side starts the process and hopefully the other side will eventually follow suit. It was Michelle Obama who said in 2016 that, "When they go low, we go high". Hillary ignored her and the left continues to ignore her. The left is filled with hate and they just can't let it go because they feel that their hate is justified.

Okay, maybe I can post this before I get kicked out. Is anybody else having trouble today? I didn't vote, because there are only two choices and no in between. I generally don't post insults at other posters. However, I do post disgust at what is currently happening in our White House right now.

faithful_servant said:

And in a thread about stopping the hate, we get the hate. Very predictable.

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When opposing your ideas because they're bad and hateful is "hate", you just might have a bad case of snowflake syndrome.

faithful_servant said:

And in a thread about stopping the hate, we get the hate. Very predictable.

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faithful_servant said:

..and more predictable hate.

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faithful_servant said:

..and more hate

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Oh look, more hate...

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You know, I thought this was gonna be a good forum where we could all try to start coming together as Americans, but even though the OP wanted the same thing, I still see plenty of hate here, some just can’t let Trump hate go for one minute.
Spiral away we go!


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Why should we stop when the top person in our country, the CIC, the person we should have as a role model is nothing more than a political hatebag?

RabidAlpaca said:

When opposing your ideas because they're bad and hateful is "hate", you just might have a bad case of snowflake syndrome.

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But what you're doing is opposing ideas because you don't like the people backing them. Almost 100% of the absolutely hate-filled and bigotry laden accusations that are being made towards anyone conservative are not based on reality, they abased on hatred of conservatives. Take racism as an example. Conservative simply don't care what race you are, we care about what kind of person you are. But because we don't believe that every bad thing that happens to black people is because of racism, we get branded as racists. That's not because we are racists, it's because those doing the accusing are hate-filled bigots who want to have a justification for their hate. I've been called so many vile names in my time here that it's unbelievable.

I make the attempt, every day. That's my purpose for being here.

faithful_servant said:

But what you're doing is opposing ideas because you don't like the people backing them. Almost 100% of the absolutely hate-filled and bigotry laden accusations that are being made towards anyone conservative are not based on reality, they abased on hatred of conservatives. Take racism as an example. Conservative simply don't care what race you are, we care about what kind of person you are. But because we don't believe that every bad thing that happens to black people is because of racism, we get branded as racists. That's not because we are racists, it's because those doing the accusing are hate-filled bigots who want to have a justification for their hate. I've been called so many vile names in my time here that it's unbelievable.

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americanwoman said:

Why should we stop when the top person in our country, the CIC, the person we should have as a role model is nothing more than a political hatebag?

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Liberals have been acting like hateful little bastards for decades.

apdst said:

Liberals have been acting like hateful little bastards for decades.

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Oh and like conservatives haven't? I've been called some pretty vile names from conservatives too.

It's all around hateful.

americanwoman said:

Oh and like conservatives haven't? I've been called some pretty vile names from conservatives too.

It's all around hateful.

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That's exactly right.

apdst said:

That's exactly right.

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Yes, they have.

apdst said:

I make the attempt, every day. That's my purpose for being here.

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Exactly 7 MINUTES later:

apdst said:

Liberals have been acting like hateful little bastards for decades.

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But this is the Left's fault... lol.... :lamo


So, I voted yes, because extreme partisanship is the easiest way to play yourself. I also voted yes, because at some point you're going to realize that this division isn't accomplishing anything, and you'll either have to reconcile or fight to the death. Personally I'm keeping fingers crossed for reconciliation.

However, at the same time, if I get punched, chances are I'll punch back. That's human nature, and despite trying as hard as I can to remember to turn the other cheek, if it were easy everyone would be doing it.

I think people committed to never ending conflict on BOTH sides of the debate are the problem. There's a fine line between fighting the good fight for your chosen ideology and being a bigot. And folks also need to understand that before there can be reconciliation there needs to be accountability and reparation...even if it's just saying "look, I'm sorry I was a dick, I got carried away, let's figure this out together". Neither side really gets to say at this point "ok, you are just so hateful, you need to pledge not to be this way anymore, starting now, cuz I want to, and if you don't, you're the problem". That's not how it works. So for those who voted "Yes", hopefully that involved thinking about some of that, and not just being on the record as being in support of it so you can be smug later.

I have many great conversations on here with folks who think very differently than I do on some subjects. I also get into major brawls. It all depends on how I'm treated. And occasionally I get treated poorly, and I 100% deserve to be. If we think more about what drives these various outcomes, rather than knee jerk into self righteous rages by default, this pledge will be infinitely easier.

And to the holdouts, on both sides, give your heads a shake, this kind of reconciliation is absolutely necessary. You're gonna have to kiss and make up sometime, and the sooner you do, the sooner you guys can go back to work of actually fixing your country.

I voted “yes” but I already make a concerted effort to avoid hateful attacks on entire groups. Whenever I am critical of large numbers of people I always use caveats like “some on the right blah blah blah” or “some on the left blah blah blah”.

Yes, I have used some derogatory terms to describe Trump like “incompetent” and “horrible”. But I also go out of my way to give him kudos when he does something right.

But I think the OP is a good thing to strive for. There have been many times I have written a post and then didn’t post it because I realized it added nothing to the conversation but hostility. But odds are there were times that I hit “post” anyway when I shouldn’t have.

faithful_servant said:

But what you're doing is opposing ideas because you don't like the people backing them. Almost 100% of the absolutely hate-filled and bigotry laden accusations that are being made towards anyone conservative are not based on reality, they abased on hatred of conservatives. Take racism as an example. Conservative simply don't care what race you are, we care about what kind of person you are. But because we don't believe that every bad thing that happens to black people is because of racism, we get branded as racists. That's not because we are racists, it's because those doing the accusing are hate-filled bigots who want to have a justification for their hate. I've been called so many vile names in my time here that it's unbelievable.

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No, I'm opposing the ideas and those who peddle them because they're bad and hate-filled ideas. I even said that but you didn't listen and filled in your own strawman about me just hating the people and not having anything against their ideology.

Moderate Right said:

There's always a reason for hating. Does that make hate justified?

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Do not realize that the words "reason" and "justification" are synonyms?

Justification Synonyms, Justification Antonyms | Thesaurus.com

Synonyms for justification
noun reason, excuse

If you have a valid reason for something, then you are by definition justified. If I have a valid reason to kill someone(self-defense), then I am justified in killing them.

Obviously, it can't just be any old reason you make up off the top of your head. For example, hating someone because they're gay would be idiotic. Hating them because they are an atheist is nonsensical. Hating them because they're a Muslim is incredibly stupid. Hating them because their an undocumented immigrant brought here as a child by their parents is moronic.

But hating someone because they are a bully who is making your life miserable is a perfectly valid reason and justification.

Moderate Right said:

Hate is just hate. White Supremacists have a reason to hate Jews and minorities.

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But not a valid one. Their hatred is a Hasty Generalization Fallacy. Their ethnicity is at best a correlation, not a causation. In reality, it's not even a correlation.

Moderate Right said:

Whether you agree with it or not, is that hate justified? No hate is justified.

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Yes, it is. If someone murdered your child in cold blood you would be absolutely justified in hating that person.

Moderate Right said:

It was Michelle Obama who said in 2016 that, "When they go low, we go high". Hillary ignored her and the left continues to ignore her.

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No, it was Trump who ignored her, and it is sadly the reason he won.

Moderate Right said:

The left is filled with hate and they just can't let it go because they feel that their hate is justified.

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When someone hates you then you are in fact justified in hating them back. The difference is that we only hate you because of your hatred and treatment of us. If you were more respectful in the first place we would have no reason for it.

When the KKK and Neo-Nazis around the country are on your side of the argument, you have no basis for preaching to anybody about hate.

MrWonka said:

Do not realize that the words "reason" and "justification" are synonyms?

Justification Synonyms, Justification Antonyms | Thesaurus.com

Synonyms for justification
noun reason, excuse

If you have a valid reason for something, then you are by definition justified. If I have a valid reason to kill someone(self-defense), then I am justified in killing them.

Obviously, it can't just be any old reason you make up off the top of your head. For example, hating someone because they're gay would be idiotic. Hating them because they are an atheist is nonsensical. Hating them because they're a Muslim is incredibly stupid. Hating them because their an undocumented immigrant brought here as a child by their parents is moronic.

But hating someone because they are a bully who is making your life miserable is a perfectly valid reason and justification.



But not a valid one. Their hatred is a Hasty Generalization Fallacy. Their ethnicity is at best a correlation, not a causation. In reality, it's not even a correlation.


Yes, it is. If someone murdered your child in cold blood you would be absolutely justified in hating that person.


No, it was Trump who ignored her, and it is sadly the reason he won.



When someone hates you then you are in fact justified in hating them back. The difference is that we only hate you because of your hatred and treatment of us. If you were more respectful in the first place we would have no reason for it.

When the KKK and Neo-Nazis around the country are on your side of the argument, you have no basis for preaching to anybody about hate.

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Who decides what a valid reason is? Who appointed you judge, jury, and executioner?

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It does seem like more than a few posters lately are so busy snarking at each other that they don't stay on the post subject.:argue

I think I'm one of natures noblemen in regard to this. A republican voter through the years I was 100%
against Bill Clinton's impeachment & I believe what Woody Hayes asked of his players 'no druggies & no haters'

I do think there are plenty of Trump haters on this site, assigning attributes to Trump that are not applicable!