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If criminal collusion is proven, do you support Trump anyway?

Would you continue to support Trump remaining in office if criminal collusionis proven?

  • Yes, I voted for Trump and he should not be remov ed even if guilty.

    Votes: 7 16.7%

  • I voted for him but want him removed from office if criminal collusion is proven.

    Votes: 2 4.8%

  • I didn't vote Trump, but would support him remaining in office even if criminal collusion is proven.

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • I did not vote for Trump and would support removal from office if criminal collusion is proven.

    Votes: 17 40.5%

  • Trump should be removed if any felony crime is proven.

    Votes: 15 35.7%
  • Total voters
    42
markjs said:
When you'vbe got Republican members of the comittee admitting Nunes priority was to not find evidence and protect Trump, rather than investagate, things become clear as the partisan hackery it is, and only partisan hacks like you buy in to the non credible ""investigation" (cover up for Trump).
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Someone posted that there are several investigations going on regarding the Russian collusion thing and I said that the poster who said that wouldn't accept the results of any investigation except Mueller's (maybe not even that one), so that he really has no right in saying that there are several investigations going on if he won't accept the results of any of them accept the one. Do you disagree with that, as he has already said he doesn't accept the results of the House intelligence investigation?
 
Perotista said:
So many what if's. So much political propaganda from both sides, pro and anti Trumpers, Republicans and Democrats. Too much BS to wade through without sinking at least up to one's neck. I'm not even sure what we're talking about or what we're trying to get at.

Are we trying to prove the Russian's meddled in the election or are we trying to prove Trump colluded and helped the Russians do it? It's almost impossible to know without waiting on Mueller's full report.

The bottom line, if collusion is proven that Trump worked with the Russians to swing the election to him, get rid of him. If Muller just proves the Russians meddled and that it had nothing to do with Trump. That their meddling was just to add doubt and sow distrust in our election system, then it high past time for everyone to accept Trump as president and for folks to stop trying to destroy him.

I never voted for Trump, I never voted for Hillary. I voted against both, voting third party as I believed both candidates were asinine choices offered by our two major parties. Nothing since has happened for me to change my mind on that. As to Russia, collusion or no collusion, I'll sit on the fence and wait for Mueller's report. There's been so much political propaganda flowing out of Washington by both parties and both sides that old Joseph Goebbels would have to take a back seat. The one thing I learned so far, there aren't any better experts when it comes to propaganda than pro and anti Trumpers, Republicans and Democrats in the entire world.
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great post!!
 
ttwtt78640 said:
1) It is not up to folks to prove that alleged stuff is not true. The purpose of the Russians was likely just to get paid.

2) If frogs had wings...

You are basing a poll on pure speculation.

Fact: Trump wanted Hillary to lose 2016 POTUS election.
Fact: Russia wanted Hillary to lose 2016 POTUS election.
Speculation: They colluded (worked as a coordinated team) with each other.

Fact: I want it to rain tomorrow.
Fact: Farmer Fred wants it to rain tomorrow.
Speculation: I colluded with a farmer Fred.
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Or, I want it to rain tomorrow and the neighbor salts the clouds for me.

I've suspected kushner all along as head of the digital part of the campaign.

If there is evidence it will be in the form of polling information provided to the trolls so they could target their activities.

Its how those polls are used in "legitimate" political operations.
 
Waddy said:
Grow up, and grow a pair. Politics is politics. Democrats "colluded' even more than Trump could have. I like Trump in office; it shakes things up. He's not a Republican and he's not a Democrat. He's Trump. Maybe this is what a politician who doesn't owe anybody looks like.
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Looks like a dumpster fire to me.

But toe-may-toe, toe-mah-toe.
 
[video]http://www.cc.com/video-clips/5uemlz/chappelle-s-show-celebrity-trial-jury-selection---uncensored[/video]

I bet many would be like in this skit (go to the R Kelly part). they wouldn't believe it was proven, their standard of proof would be absurd
 
Moderate Right said:
An opinion is an opinion. The other side has opinions based on facts as well.
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The other side has already proven it has no interest in a full accounting of all facts relevant to the matter and that it's primary goal is to protect Trump.

Really, really basic stuff here.
 
markjs said:
Unnsurprisngly, yet unbelievably, most Trump supporters don't mind treason, and support this man, literally it seems with no reservations whatever he does. Seriously, 80% of you would support a traitor? Amazing, RIP 'murica, redneck reality TV junkies and the Alt Right have signed our death warrant as a nation it would seem.:roll:



My first poil so I hope I get it right, but seriously, would you continue to support a traitor, agenda over contry? How do you justify this, assuming you're willing to publicly talk?
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You have to understand that the genesis of this whole thing began with Obama and the Clintons trying to frame Trump with a phony dossier. The motive? Trump won the election. How did they get a Special Prosecutor? Comey leaked secret information the the press to create a sense of emergency to create one.

The result? They have done a pretty good job.

Now all the partisans will stack their bull**** arguments on top of mine, but eventually the truth will come out.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
The other side has already proven it has no interest in a full accounting of all facts relevant to the matter and that it's primary goal is to protect Trump.

Really, really basic stuff here.
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You are correct .... and in taking this action (or lack of action) the Republicans in Congress are in violation of their oath of office since they no longer are fulfilling their constitutional responsibilities as exercising their role in checks and balances has been abandoned. Checks and balances only work to protect our system if they are exercised by those who hold the power behind them. And sadly the GOP in Congress has no interest outside of what they have determined is their own limited personal interest at protecting their own careers and the short term position of their party. The American people have been given the middle finger by the GOP.
 
haymarket said:
You are correct .... and in taking this action (or lack of action) the Republicans in Congress are in violation of their oath of office since they no longer are fulfilling their constitutional responsibilities as exercising their role in checks and balances has been abandoned. Checks and balances only work to protect our system if they are exercised by those who hold the power behind them. And sadly the GOP in Congress has no interest outside of what they have determined is their own limited personal interest at protecting their own careers and the short term position of their party. The American people have been given the middle finger by the GOP.
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Their reckoning is coming soon and is already happening in special elections across the country. Likely Mueller will ne ponding a very large final nail by November and the "New Congress" will fill in the hole.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm... did Hillary and the DNC not have knowledge that the Russians (allegedly) had dirt on Trump and pay someone to go get it?
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Nope.

This has been explained to you before.
 
no we dont all illegal criminals should be thrown out...period. and people that hate other races too.
 
Vox said:
Traitor? LOL!

Traitor against what?

There is no such thing as criminal collusion in a political campaign so he can't be found guilty of it. You can get information on an opponent from anywhere (including Russia).

Your poll is laughable.
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Oborosen said:
Well if collusion were actually illegal, then I would be willing to hear the evidence and decide for myself.

This well for the democrats however, is running dry fast.
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Its not collusion. It would be conspiracy to defraud the United States. He would likely be enjoined to the current election conspiracy and/or the pending computer fraud conspiracy. But, of course, charges such as obstruction of justice and making false statements would be clearly his.
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
The other side has already proven it has no interest in a full accounting of all facts relevant to the matter and that it's primary goal is to protect Trump.

Really, really basic stuff here.
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The other side has already proven it has no interest in anything but a witch hunt. The Mueller investigation was for obstruction of justice only.
 
Moderate Right said:
The other side has already proven it has no interest in anything but a witch hunt. The Mueller investigation was for obstruction of justice only.
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No, it hasn't, nor can you demonstrate that it has.

You don't seem at all familiar or interested in the actual details and record of this case.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No, it hasn't, nor can you demonstrate that it has.

You don't seem at all familiar or interested in the actual details and record of this case.
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What happened to the investigation isn't over yet? And yet you seem to know the end results now.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No, it hasn't, nor can you demonstrate that it has.

You don't seem at all familiar or interested in the actual details and record of this case.
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What happened to the investigation isn't over yet? And yet you seem to know the end results now.
 
upsideguy said:
Its not collusion. It would be conspiracy to defraud the United States. He would likely be enjoined to the current election conspiracy and/or the pending computer fraud conspiracy. But, of course, charges such as obstruction of justice and making false statements would be clearly his.
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Would be.

Would be.

We've been hearing that for over a year.

So where is the WOULD BE????

:lamo:lamo:lamo
 
markjs said:
Unnsurprisngly, yet unbelievably, most Trump supporters don't mind treason, and support this man, literally it seems with no reservations whatever he does. Seriously, 80% of you would support a traitor? Amazing, RIP 'murica, redneck reality TV junkies and the Alt Right have signed our death warrant as a nation it would seem.:roll:



My first poil so I hope I get it right, but seriously, would you continue to support a traitor, agenda over contry? How do you justify this, assuming you're willing to publicly talk?
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Lol ! Jesus, your post just keep getting dumber and dumber.
Chris Cuomo, is that you ???
 
damn, this is like Nixon if watergate happened before he took office
 
Most have found him guilty before all the facts are in, so why bother asking this question?
 
Lovebug said:
Most have found him guilty before all the facts are in, so why bother asking this question?
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Cuz it's really alarming that many think his guilt is no bar to being a fine president.
 
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