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If criminal collusion is proven, do you support Trump anyway?

Would you continue to support Trump remaining in office if criminal collusionis proven?

  • Yes, I voted for Trump and he should not be remov ed even if guilty.

    Votes: 7 16.7%

  • I voted for him but want him removed from office if criminal collusion is proven.

    Votes: 2 4.8%

  • I didn't vote Trump, but would support him remaining in office even if criminal collusion is proven.

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • I did not vote for Trump and would support removal from office if criminal collusion is proven.

    Votes: 17 40.5%

  • Trump should be removed if any felony crime is proven.

    Votes: 15 35.7%
  • Total voters
    42
Vox said:
Since there's no conspiracy and no crime has been committed........what the hell are you babbling about???

:mrgreen:
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Yawn. There's an investigation, several actually, concerning whether there was a conspiracy and if crimes were committed.

Since you have no clue what you're babbling about, why babble?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Yawn. There's an investigation, several actually, concerning whether there was a conspiracy and if crimes were committed.

Since you have no clue what you're babbling about, why babble?
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Are there really several investigations? The left keeps saying this crap and yet when the House Intelligence committee just released an outline of it's findings all of a sudden Democrats discredit it. What's going to happen when the Republican led Senate investigation does a similar thing? Now how many investigations do we have going on? You can't count an investigation if you discredit it's findings.
 
markjs said:
Unnsurprisngly, yet unbelievably, most Trump supporters don't mind treason, and support this man, literally it seems with no reservations whatever he does. Seriously, 80% of you would support a traitor? Amazing, RIP 'murica, redneck reality TV junkies and the Alt Right have signed our death warrant as a nation it would seem.:roll:



My first poil so I hope I get it right, but seriously, would you continue to support a traitor, agenda over contry? How do you justify this, assuming you're willing to publicly talk?
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I am not surprised at all. The bulk of the GOP has already been proven to not give a **** about anything except putting and keeping a guy with an R in the White House. And, Trump's supporters are even worse.
 
Moderate Right said:
Are there really several investigations? The left keeps saying this crap and yet when the House Intelligence committee just released an outline of it's findings all of a sudden Democrats discredit it. What's going to happen when the Republican led Senate investigation does a similar thing? Now how many investigations do we have going on? You can't count an investigation if you discredit it's findings.
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Yes, there are three more. Special counsel, Senate Intelligence and Senate Judiciary.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
I'll accept results of all of them, if they're carried out in a non-partisan and thorough fashion.

Thus far they're batting 3-1
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And if they give you the results that YOU want. What gives you the right to determine their batting average?
 
markjs said:
Unnsurprisngly, yet unbelievably, most Trump supporters don't mind treason, and support this man, literally it seems with no reservations whatever he does. Seriously, 80% of you would support a traitor? Amazing, RIP 'murica, redneck reality TV junkies and the Alt Right have signed our death warrant as a nation it would seem.:roll:



My first poil so I hope I get it right, but seriously, would you continue to support a traitor, agenda over contry? How do you justify this, assuming you're willing to publicly talk?
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If it is surprising to you or anyone else that we Trump supporters don't mind treason, perhaps you should become pollsters. They're always surprised.
 
I did not vote for Trump and would support removal from office if crimes committed in the course of collusion are proven.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
WTF? You leapt from "criminal collusion" (whatever that is) to treason. If it was OK to have Hillary and the DNC buy opposition research (made up dirt about Trump?) from Russians using a British man (ex-spy?) as a go between then isn't that "criminal collusion"?
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I think when liberals are talking about 'collusion' they are speaking of a hypothetical conspiracy, where the Trump campaign had insider knowledge of the Russian covert operation that involved the releasing of stolen emails.

Yes, that would be a criminal conspiracy, if proven true.
 
markjs said:
Unnsurprisngly, yet unbelievably, most Trump supporters don't mind treason, and support this man, literally it seems with no reservations whatever he does. Seriously, 80% of you would support a traitor? Amazing, RIP 'murica, redneck reality TV junkies and the Alt Right have signed our death warrant as a nation it would seem.:roll:



My first poil so I hope I get it right, but seriously, would you continue to support a traitor, agenda over contry? How do you justify this, assuming you're willing to publicly talk?
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Well if collusion were actually illegal, then I would be willing to hear the evidence and decide for myself.

This well for the democrats however, is running dry fast.
 
MovingPictures said:
I think when liberals are talking about 'collusion' they are speaking of a hypothetical conspiracy, where the Trump campaign had insider knowledge of the Russian covert operation that involved the releasing of stolen emails.

Yes, that would be a criminal conspiracy, if proven true.
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Hmm... did Hillary and the DNC not have knowledge that the Russians (allegedly) had dirt on Trump and pay someone to go get it?
 
markjs said:
Unnsurprisngly, yet unbelievably, most Trump supporters don't mind treason, and support this man, literally it seems with no reservations whatever he does. Seriously, 80% of you would support a traitor? Amazing, RIP 'murica, redneck reality TV junkies and the Alt Right have signed our death warrant as a nation it would seem.:roll:



My first poil so I hope I get it right, but seriously, would you continue to support a traitor, agenda over contry? How do you justify this, assuming you're willing to publicly talk?
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Grow up, and grow a pair. Politics is politics. Democrats "colluded' even more than Trump could have. I like Trump in office; it shakes things up. He's not a Republican and he's not a Democrat. He's Trump. Maybe this is what a politician who doesn't owe anybody looks like.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
I have that right as a rational observer. The House Intel Committe, due to Nunes and others, was a farce.
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That is just your opinion because you didn't like the results. Do you expect anything different from the Senate investigations? The right has the same opinion as you about Hillary and how she had the deck stacked in her favor during the email investigation. They gave immunity deals to several and several others pleaded the fifth and then Loretta Lynch and Comey had the fix in regarding Hillary so that no one wound up being charged with anything.
 
Moderate Right said:
That is just your opinion because you didn't like the results. Do you expect anything different from the Senate investigations? The right has the same opinion as you about Hillary and how she had the deck stacked in her favor during the email investigation. They gave immunity deals to several and several others pleaded the fifth and then Loretta Lynch and Comey had the fix in regarding Hillary so that no one wound up being charged with anything.
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No, it's my opinion based on facts as a dispassionate observer.

Hillary is irrelevant to this, but I understand your desperate, pathological need to bring her into every topic you can.
 
The left needs to get a grip. I know you wanted there to be there there but what you got boils down to a few incidents in the Trump campaign that amount to poor judgement and that is far from criminal.

No evidence of a crime.

No legal definition of "collusion."

No charges made that indicate Putin helped Trump. But there's plenty of evidence of Russians colluding with the Clinton Campaign through the Steele Dossier while interfering with our elections to bring about distrust of either party especially through social media.

Meanwhile, too many are going out of their way to make sure they don't see anything wrong with the surveillance conducted by Obama and his administration of a political opponent.
 
vesper said:
The left needs to get a grip. I know you wanted there to be there there but what you got boils down to a few incidents in the Trump campaign that amount to poor judgement and that is far from criminal.

No evidence of a crime.

No legal definition of "collusion."

No charges made that indicate Putin helped Trump. But there's plenty of evidence of Russians colluding with the Clinton Campaign through the Steele Dossier while interfering with our elections to bring about distrust of either party especially through social media.

Meanwhile, too many are going out of their way to make sure they don't see anything wrong with the surveillance conducted by Obama and his administration of a political opponent.
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I love how you're forced to resort to a Fantasy Land narrative to keep from thinking about what Bob Mueller and his team are doing.

Benghazi!!!!
 
markjs said:
Unnsurprisngly, yet unbelievably, most Trump supporters don't mind treason, and support this man, literally it seems with no reservations whatever he does. Seriously, 80% of you would support a traitor? Amazing, RIP 'murica, redneck reality TV junkies and the Alt Right have signed our death warrant as a nation it would seem.:roll:



My first poil so I hope I get it right, but seriously, would you continue to support a traitor, agenda over contry? How do you justify this, assuming you're willing to publicly talk?
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So many what if's. So much political propaganda from both sides, pro and anti Trumpers, Republicans and Democrats. Too much BS to wade through without sinking at least up to one's neck. I'm not even sure what we're talking about or what we're trying to get at.

Are we trying to prove the Russian's meddled in the election or are we trying to prove Trump colluded and helped the Russians do it? It's almost impossible to know without waiting on Mueller's full report.

The bottom line, if collusion is proven that Trump worked with the Russians to swing the election to him, get rid of him. If Muller just proves the Russians meddled and that it had nothing to do with Trump. That their meddling was just to add doubt and sow distrust in our election system, then it high past time for everyone to accept Trump as president and for folks to stop trying to destroy him.

I never voted for Trump, I never voted for Hillary. I voted against both, voting third party as I believed both candidates were asinine choices offered by our two major parties. Nothing since has happened for me to change my mind on that. As to Russia, collusion or no collusion, I'll sit on the fence and wait for Mueller's report. There's been so much political propaganda flowing out of Washington by both parties and both sides that old Joseph Goebbels would have to take a back seat. The one thing I learned so far, there aren't any better experts when it comes to propaganda than pro and anti Trumpers, Republicans and Democrats in the entire world.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
I love how you're forced to resort to a Fantasy Land narrative to keep from thinking about what Bob Mueller and his team are doing.

Benghazi!!!!
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Fantasy Land? LOL
Well you go ahead and keep hoping for a grand finale.
 
Moderate Right said:
And if they give you the results that YOU want. What gives you the right to determine their batting average?
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When you'vbe got Republican members of the comittee admitting Nunes priority was to not find evidence and protect Trump, rather than investagate, things become clear as the partisan hackery it is, and only partisan hacks like you buy in to the non credible ""investigation" (cover up for Trump).
 
They may not get Trump for collusion. They will get him for obstruction of justice. Its an open and shut case. In Jan 2019 a Dem controlled House will introduce a first article of impeachment, obstruction of justice.
 
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