Is this good parenting?

Peter King said:

I would disagree, this is a physical punishment and a very public one at that. Punishing someone by taking away rights is not bullying, that is punishment.

And you are right, it is my opinion.

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Well let me be clear I'm not call you right or wrong. There isnt a right or wrong really. Im just not seeing anything that isnt soley subjective and that any punishment could fit. I think its an endless rabbit hole that is just all opinion in every direction.

Using your argument I could apply it to just about anything so where would the line be is my concern. But not with YOU with all of this. To me it seems the line is very arbitrary.

Peter King said:

I would disagree, this is a physical punishment and a very public one at that. Punishing someone by taking away rights is not bullying, that is punishment.

And you are right, it is my opinion.

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Yes, jogging is a physical punishment, but not one that harms the child.

Good parents often employ punishments that have physical aspects, such as doing extra chores, mowing/cleaning/etc. The nice thing about the jogging punishment is that it gives the child quite a while to think about what he did every morning and to understand that actions have consequences.

HowardBThiname said:

Yes, jogging is a physical punishment, but not one that harms the child.

Good parents often employ punishments that have physical aspects, such as doing extra chores, mowing/cleaning/etc. The nice thing about the jogging punishment is that it gives the child quite a while to think about what he did every morning and to understand that actions have consequences.

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Except running to school increment weather and purely meant as a way to punish can be seen as bullying. It is unknown that this will teach the child the appropriate lesson. And extra chores is not the same as shame running/punish running to school. Again, that is my opinion.

Peter King said:

Except running to school increment weather and purely meant as a way to punish can be seen as bullying. It is unknown that this will teach the child the appropriate lesson. And extra chores is not the same as shame running/punish running to school. Again, that is my opinion.

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But thats the whole issue. Opinion that we are all free to have but isn't really sound logically. It's so subjective. Just about any foundation you or I or anybody uses could be applied and used against us and say extra chores is bullying or its not. Define bullying and explain how one thing fits it and one thing doesnt. It doesnt seem like it can be done.

Its what I was talking about back im my post 121 (it wasnt to you) but what here is bullying or not and WHY? based on what criteria?

running laps? Push ups? being yelled at in front of the team? friends?
Being grounded and not allowed to attend an public event so everybody knows?
Being benched in front of the whole school during a big game?
getting a beating
Manual labor at home, at school

etc etc etc

I havent seen anything yet that would logically deem any of those one way or the other.

Peter King said:

Except running to school increment weather and purely meant as a way to punish can be seen as bullying. It is unknown that this will teach the child the appropriate lesson. And extra chores is not the same as shame running/punish running to school. Again, that is my opinion.

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It is unknown if any punishments will avert behavior. As parents we make choices on how to best punish and lead our children into making proper choices and becoming better people. If they grounded their child, or took his xbox, or whatever else they might have consider we don't really know if it would have taught him the appropriate lesson. What I do see is parents who probably know their child and punishing him in the way they felt would have the highest probability of success. Time will tell if they were right or wrong, (I doubt we will ever know) but even if this punishment is not successful it doesn't mean a failure for these parents. Parents are constantly adapting to their children.