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Will the Parkland shooting push Generation Z towards gun control?

Will this change Gen Z's attitudes?

  • Yes

    Votes: 14 43.8%
  • No

    Votes: 18 56.3%

  • Total voters
    32
You did no one a service. As explained, you were wrong, both on usage, meaning and as distracting from the thread.

Remember God cast Satan from the heavens because of his vanity. Satan, acknowledged as the most beautiful of the angels, thought he was better looking. :)

Perhaps you should consider some humility. It can be refreshing.

You prove that DENIAL is not just the river in Egypt.

The proper phrase to express that you simply do not care for something is I COULD NOT CARE LESS. If one mistakenly says I COULD CARE LESS - that means you have lots of room to be even more disinterested that you are pretending to be.

this may help you

https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/could-care-less-versus-couldnt-care-less

Other linguists have argued that the type of sound at the end of "couldn’t" is naturally dropped by sloppy or slurring speakers.

Regardless of the reason people say they could care less, it is one of the more common language peeves because of its illogical nature. To say you could care less means you have a bit of caring left, which is not what the speakers seem to intend. The proper "couldn’t care less" is still the dominant form in print, but "could care less" has been steadily gaining ground since its appearance in the 1960s.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=I could care less

TOP DEFINITION
I could care less
Wrong slang. It's supposed to be "I couldn't care less" - because I have no interest. "I could care less" means there is some interest.
"Leaving? I couldn't care less."

Maybe you need to see the excellent film IDIOCRACY. It is about this very thing.

Your refusal to accept this is telling. And God and Satan have nothing to do with it. Although maybe I should invoke Gandalf and Sauron on my side to pretend to even the score.
 
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You prove that DENIAL is not just the river in Egypt.

The proper phrase to express that you simply do not care for something is I COULD NOT CARE LESS. If one mistakenly says I COULD CARE LESS - that means you have lots of room to be even more disinterested that you are pretending to be.

this may help you

https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/could-care-less-versus-couldnt-care-less



https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=I could care less



Maybe you need to see the excellent film IDIOCRACY. It is about this very thing.

Your refusal to accept this is telling. And God and Satan have nothing to do with it. Although maybe I should invoke Gandalf and Sauron on my side to pretend to even the score.

Look to yourself. Poor cliche, as well.

Linguists come in all colors, all points of view, and they argue over far more trivial matters than this, this included. Know your linguists, bumper sticker only $3.99 at Bumpersticker.com, + shipping and handling, $22.99. I strongly suggest you give Wittengenstein a read on this matter, he devotes 4 whole pages to this very example in High German as compared to low German, the people's language.

God and Satan, in the case shown, is only an allegorical story, serving to illustrate your vanity. I prefer T. H. White to Tolkein.

If you really believe this is what Idiocracy was about, you do have some severe comprehension skills.

Should you desire to continue this conversation, I suggest starting a thread. I intend to drop this tangent right now and I intend to get back to the thread subject and theme.
 
Generation Z is rumored to be more conservative than the millennials, and gun politics is certainly one of the issues where that's true. But will things change now?

Where have you heard this rumor? In certain polls, students have been shown to either vote for Trump or vote for Clinton. However, according to the personality studies, the idea that they are more conservative than millennials is not accurate.

A 2014 study found that Generation Z students self-identify as being loyal, compassionate, thoughtful, open-minded, responsible, and determined.

Considering that the prior generations of Conservatives refused to understand that Obama was not a Muslim Kenyan, that Global Warming was real, and that declaring tomato paste a vegetable was a suitable response to the idea of making school lunches healthier for their children...and today's absurd Trump worship...I don't see a lot of thoughtful, responsible, and open-minded compassion among Conservatives.

A 2016 U.S. study found that Generation Z embraces multiculturalism as a touchstone of who they are, and this also informs their attitudes on social issues. They’ve come of age when same-sex marriage and a black president are a given and they expect continued social progress to reflect the ethnic diversity.

Considering that prior generations of Conservatives have been notorious for exaggerating the notion that immigrants steal their tomato picking and dry wall jobs and are infested with crime, that "Black Lives Matter" needed to be addressed with "White Lives Matter" over obvious police abuses, that Muslims are simply bad,...and today hide a disdain for minorities under the word "illegal" as they demand an actual border wall...I don't see Conservatives as embracing multiculturalism as they circle the wagons around their own identities as if under constant attack.

In a study conducted in 2015 the Center for Generational Kinetics found that American Generation Zers, defined here as those born 1996 and onwards, are less optimistic about the state of the US economy, less optimistic about the United States' trajectory in general, less concerned about illegal immigration, and more concerned about the state of minorities in the US.

This is the generation who's entire existence revolves around being brought up in an uncertain world in which their parents purposefully confuse. Their whole world experience involves 9/11, seventeen years of constant warfare, the Great Recession, a black president, increasing environmental awareness, and an increase in high profile mass shootings that even involve an elementary school. This is all normal to them. And what have they learned from their parents? They have learned that they would rather bicker and gripe about their outdated and failed ideologies, nonsense on whether or not Global Warming is a Liberal hoax, nonsense about forged birth certificates, and the notion that dead kids are less important than holding a discussion on what defines an "assault" rifle. They have earned that their parents would rather complain about the evils of homosexuality, gay marriage, and transgender issues than acknowledge that their kids have openly gay friends and that some of their favorite television shows carry gay themes. Ultimately, they have learned that we are very old, selfish, and short sighted. No wonder they have less optimism about a future than us (though still believe in the American Dream apparently).

I just don't understand how today's gun owners can't see that the generation that is largely actually experiencing these shootings, aren't going to grow up one day and make more severe decisions, based on the fact that we now still refuse to even deal with a bump stock and on whether or not a clinically identified schizophrenic should be denied his Second Amendment right. Today's kids are obviously getting fed up and angry over our inability to be the responsible adults.
 
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As is your right. As a lifelong teacher, I cannot help but try to help when I see a common mistake in language usage that says the opposite of what you really intended to say. Accept it - reject it - its your call.

You may find it a bit offensive, however I don't take you all that seriously as a lifetime teacher either.
 
There's often the idiosyncratic phrase which trumps grammar when it comes to meaning.

i.e.

"I COULD NOT CARE LESS."

"I couldn't care less."

transmogrifies to

"I could care less."

And the meaning remains the same in the vernacular.

In French there is no negative of the phrase, it is merely:

"Je m'en fiche complètement." Another idiosyncratic phrase that defies the rules of grammar and accepted meaning of individual words, expression by what is accepted meaning for the phrase instead.

As well, when examining the expression "I could care less," the actual meaning of the words is direct and easily understood with "less" as the negative adjectively modifying "I could care...." No need for the modifier "not" or the conjunctive "n't." More so, when using two negatives, the result is a positive. That is basic grammar.

But you can enjoy being picayune claiming the false superiority and ego stroke of your teaching experience. Teachers teach many concepts that are myths and lies, in good faith. Good faith is not enough.

I don't take his teaching experience all that seriously considering how he has butchered stances on such things as the electoral college and the second amendment, despite claiming to have taught American Government.
 
It is simply a misuse of the language. Correcting mistakes should be looked upon as a service informing one how they can improve and communicate better.

In your case it is a mere distraction when you are cornered in an argument. You tend to change the subject as rapidly as possible and carry it on for another half dozen posts or so.
 
This is the generation who's entire existence revolves around being brought up in an uncertain world in which their parents purposefully confuse.

You make it sound like a generation taught to hide under their desks.
 
I don't take his teaching experience all that seriously considering how he has butchered stances on such things as the electoral college and the second amendment, despite claiming to have taught American Government.

We all have our fantasies. As a young teenager mine were about Marilyn Monroe and Sophia Loren. Now, waking up tomorrow. :) When it actualizes I am filled with a mixture of joy and frustration. Then I relieve myself, and it's all joy, as I prepare breakfast. The aroma of good coffee is best in the early morning.
 
You may find it a bit offensive, however I don't take you all that seriously as a lifetime teacher either.

because you are in a position to know such things???? :doh:roll:
 
In your case it is a mere distraction when you are cornered in an argument. You tend to change the subject as rapidly as possible and carry it on for another half dozen posts or so.

I see the continued personal attack, but where is any intellectual refutation of the point I made about the misuse of the language?
 
because you are in a position to know such things???? :doh:roll:

Yes. For one, I do not suffer from narcissism. I like honest and motivated teachers, however I do not take the crackpots seriously and there are some teachers, especially in some universities who are crackpots. While education is important, wisdom counts for more. Not every teacher lives in the real world. Some university economics professors for instance would never make it in the business world.
 
I see the continued personal attack, but where is any intellectual refutation of the point I made about the misuse of the language?

I do not waste my time with intentional distractions other then to point them out as such. This thread is about the Parkland shooting and generation Z. If you want to discuss language skills, look for a language forum. Otherwise, have a nice weekend.
 
Yes. For one, I do not suffer from narcissism. I like honest and motivated teachers, however I do not take the crackpots seriously and there are some teachers, especially in some universities who are crackpots. While education is important, wisdom counts for more. Not every teacher lives in the real world. Some university economics professors for instance would never make it in the business world.

your personal open is noted. Could you tell me what education you have about teaching methods to make this judgment?
 
I do not waste my time with intentional distractions other then to point them out as such. This thread is about the Parkland shooting and generation Z. If you want to discuss language skills, look for a language forum. Otherwise, have a nice weekend.

Anything that is brought up by others in this thread is fair game for commenting on.
 
your personal open is noted. Could you tell me what education you have about teaching methods to make this judgment?

No...I'll only point out two things. One, I do have a little teaching experience and two, I am not going to engage you in this "off topic" argument for another half dozen posts or so. This is the last. If you want to talk to me, make it about the thread topic. Otherwise, have a nice weekend.
 
Read the TOS. You're wrong, again.

Feel free to quote anything you feel supports your attempt to silence me from commenting on what others raise here.
 
Only if related to the thread topic.

So its okay for you or others to mention certain things that are off topic but if I or anyone else of different opinion replies to it the you bring out the OFF TOPIC card. Got it. :doh:roll:
 
So its okay for you or others to mention certain things that are off topic but if I or anyone else of different opinion replies to it the you bring out the OFF TOPIC card. Got it. :doh:roll:

Lame. TOS.
 
Baiting and trolling.

Actually it is called DEBATING. You should get informed about it if you want to pretend that is what you are engaged in.
 
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