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Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government? [W:837]

Should "military style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?


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Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

The federal law was sufficient for changing the age to 18 for federal (US House, US Senate and POTUS) elections but not for state/local elections. The 26A was required to establish age 18 (nationwide) for state/local office and ballot initiative elections - making everything uniform. My post, to which you replied, included a link clearly explaining all of this - perhaps you should read it.

The facts which I mentioned are not wrong - but your opinion is.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-sixth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

In other words, a interpretation of what the law dos not say to say it does. Specific quotes city quotes citing the voting laws and the fact of the 18 years of age would help your cause, by they don't exist.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

:shock:

The minimum voting age has been 18 for decades.

Where have you been? 18 year olds have had the right to vote since the late 60's or early 70's. I was in basic training in 1972 and we were not offered the chance to vote, but it was our right!


See 26th Amendment

:doh

The Twenty-sixth Amendment (Amendment XXVI) to the United States Constitution prohibits the states and the federal government from using age as a reason for denying the right to vote to citizens of the United States who are at least eighteen years old.

:3oops: :3oops: Yeah, that was dumb.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

No, fool. Police being out gunned with already illegal weapons is what caused your precious scenario. Laws already in place not being enforced is what caused it. More laws to be ignored will solve nothing except to disarm lawful citizens of their right to defend them selves. Even you should be able to understand that. But you will refuse to do so.

As usual, all you have done is humiliate yourself. I have already shown that legitimate gun dealers did business with gangsters in the past. Considering you lot are constantly shrieking for laws to be struck down or not enforced, all you did was torpedo your own argument.

No, all it will do is keep fools, morons and idiots from being able to murder police officers whenever it strikes their fancy.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

Unfortunately for you, the "real world" has rejected pitiful examples such as you and you are constantly rejected. Your claims have no value, or thought behind them, merely whining to be paid attention to.

Repeating what you conceive to be insults back to others only shows how lacking you are in the intelligence category. You are a lying, cowardly fool and have been exposed as such time and time again. Grow up just a little bit and learn to dal with it.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but no, your fevered delusions do not count as the "real world".

Coming from the poster who has repeatedly lied about stolen valor, your opinion is meaningless.

Yes, you are a lying, cowardly fool, and to make it worse you are a sniveling piece of **** who needs a weapon to feel like a human.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

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I hate to burst your bubble, but no, your fevered delusions do not count as the "real world".

Coming from the poster who has repeatedly lied about stolen valor, your opinion is meaningless.

Yes, you are a lying, cowardly fool, and to make it worse you are a sniveling piece of **** who needs a weapon to feel like a human.

Coming from you, with your history of lying and distorting facts, this is a compliment of the highest order. Everything you claim is backwards, bordering on the lies of the mentally ill. Go back to sleep and the world will thank you.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

As usual, all you have done is humiliate yourself. I have already shown that legitimate gun dealers did business with gangsters in the past. Considering you lot are constantly shrieking for laws to be struck down or not enforced, all you did was torpedo your own argument.

No, all it will do is keep fools, morons and idiots from being able to murder police officers whenever it strikes their fancy.

Show exactly where I have called for gun laws to be struck down or admit that you are a liar.

As for murdering police officers, it would be those that ignore the gun laws doing that, not those who follow the law. Yet another fantasy and lie from you.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

Coming from you, with your history of lying and distorting facts, this is a compliment of the highest order. Everything you claim is backwards, bordering on the lies of the mentally ill. Go back to sleep and the world will thank you.

Oh look, you are still under the impression that if you blather enough nonsense you will "get somewhere". News flash----you've already proven yourself to be nothing more than a partisan hack. I could care less what you think, but it'd be hard to get under the current level of disdain I have for the stupidity you expect people to believe.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

Show exactly where I have called for gun laws to be struck down or admit that you are a liar.

As for murdering police officers, it would be those that ignore the gun laws doing that, not those who follow the law. Yet another fantasy and lie from you.

Your blather throughout this thread shows it; not only that, but given that you have literally been lying about me for weeks, you have no room to declare that anyone else is lying.

Oh, there's been plenty of cases of people who were "law abiding citizens" at one point or another turning to crime.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

I have a question for those who voted yes.


how do you propose this is done, what should the penalty be for non-compliance?
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

Oh look, you are still under the impression that if you blather enough nonsense you will "get somewhere". News flash----you've already proven yourself to be nothing more than a partisan hack. I could care less what you think, but it'd be hard to get under the current level of disdain I have for the stupidity you expect people to believe.

You claim to care less what I say, yet you respond immediately with a continuance of your lies and BS. Even you should be able to see how hypocritical you are being. Or did they not give you your dose of medication yet?

Being the poster boy of stupidity, you should really try to get some facts behind you and your claims. Your nonsense is wearing thin, but then it is all you have.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

Your blather throughout this thread shows it; not only that, but given that you have literally been lying about me for weeks, you have no room to declare that anyone else is lying.

Oh, there's been plenty of cases of people who were "law abiding citizens" at one point or another turning to crime.

So, without admitting it you admit that you lied about me, again. You make a claim and expect no one to doubt it, especially when it is a made up lie.

All of my statement about you have been opinions, correct as shown by this quoted post as it turns out.

You get your little feelings hurt when someone points out that you are a fraud and proven liar yet expect to be believed while you practice this. Lets add another adjective to you: loser.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

Moderator's Warning:
Tiger and ArJay, both of you need to knock this feud off. If you can't debate the issue without trolling each other then I'd suggest you stop responding
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

Lol note that even when somebody called for a ban there was no interest in such a policy. Never trust republican stated ideas of what the Democratic Party believes.

Side note---funny how far right you are that you think the center is the left.

TWO WORDS: Senator Feinstein
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

TWO WORDS: Senator Feinstein

Funny how the left can ignore anything that differs from their stand. A common problem among them.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

First off, we must establish a national weapons registry , we must weed out the irresponsible, the "semi-insane , the criminal and the insane ..I THINK we can do this , by now ..NOT 50 years ago - computers and operators were just being born .. This will take cooperation and a loss of some ''privacy" - major stumbling blocks ..
Then the ''assault" weapons must go, but this is the Rock of Gibraltar of stumbling blocks and may not be possible .. the failing low quality of too many people and this is NOT worth a civil war!
The alternative is to issue EVERY citizen of this nation a weapon and training ..Body bag manufacturers and conservatives will love this !
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

TWO WORDS: Senator Feinstein

Slightly more than two words:

Notice how there was no interest in implementing what she claimed to want.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

I think only because she's uneducated as hell on the subject matter, and they don't want to look like fools. But here's a short list:

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-endorsements

Huh. Five years ago---back when Obama, who was supposed to have grabbed everyone's gun a long time ago, was still president.....and nothing happened.

Know why?

Because nobody is seriously interested in the fantasies that so many of the rank and file believe in, and which keep ammo sales high---the real motivation.
 
Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

Gee, was Yorktown won by a professionalized force or by a bunch of amateurs? The British won plenty of battles during the Revolutionary War.
Yeah, but the point was WE won the war.
 
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Weapons like the AR-15 and those similar have been used in many mass shootings in the US. Should all of these weapons like the above be confiscated by the US government?


Yes, and my reasoning, though not sound, probably emotional, probably nutty, goes like this:

I see more and more people, including children, posting pictures of themselves, or family, even children, posing with these military weapons.

In my view, it looks to me a lot like there is a gun fetish growing in this country. Badass looking weapons, like they see in movies a lot, and on TV, they are everywhere, it glorifies them, and when the are glorified, a lot of people want to participate, they want them, they see celebrities in movies with them and they want to be like them,

it's just like people smoking in movies.

People see movie stars smoking, and they want to smoke. When I was a kid in the 60s, most people smoked, and the consensus was that it was movies promoting cigarettes ( not directly, just by their being in movies) was causing people to want to smoke. Smoking culture has been so demonized in America now, parents getting wiser, people becoming more concerned about their health, that this is countering the fact that
smoking is still seen in films, so that ad effect is having less effect, these days, given growing public awareness of the dangers of nicotine.

The point is, Advertising works, put something ion a film, even though it's not a full on commercial, just the fact that it's placed, it's a celebrity quasi-subliminal ad. So, With guns, it also works. Now, I don't think we can force filmmakers to not use these guns in movies, but to help cure this fetish, or diminish it, I propose the following ( noting that it may or may not reduce crime, I just don't know ) :

Ban all of them, take them out of circulation. It will take time, but in time, it's doable.

Grant citizens the right to own single shot long guns, rifles and shot guns, no semi or fully automatic weapons or hand guns ( maybe not, not sure about hand guns, for now ).

You have the right to own a gun to kill game for food, and to defend yourself. That's SCOTUS on 2a, so either repeal it revise it, but until then, this is my idea.

Now, you're going to laugh at the next proposal, but I'll give my reasoning for it, as silly as it sounds:


Mandate that all guns in citizens hands ( not military or police ) to be pink in color.


Okay, before you start laughing your arse off, hear me out.

A few years ago, I witnessed an interesting experiment, it was on TV, as I recall.

Two very muscular guys were arm wrestling, they had big strong arms, and were about the same strength each.

They arm wrestled and they tied, not one could put the other down. So, they were told to go home and rest, and come back tomorrow.

Tomorrow they came back, and arm wrestled again, but this one, the guy the right had someone hold a pink card in front of his eyes. It wasn't so big he couldn't see well enough to arm wrestle his opponent.

The guy on the left beat him, easily. There was no question about it, they held for a second or two, and the guy on the left slammed him down.

So they were asked to go home, and come back again the next day.

Same guys on left and right to the camera. This time, they had the guy on the left look at a pink card while arm wrestling.

This time, the guy on the right easily beat him.


Just in case this test was an anomaly, they searched, and found, two different but similar guys, equal in strength, and guess what?

The same thing happened. There is something about pink that soothes the savage beast.

Anyway, you see where I'm going with this? Mandate boring looking guns only, single shot, and PINK.

Who knows, it might work insofar as reducing crimes.

Hell, I don't know, but I'm getting tired of boring solutions and people fetishizing guns.

It's time to do something.

yeah, I know, someone's going to kill someone with a pink gun, someone's going to rob a bank with a pink gun, I'm just sayin', maybe it will get the stats to go down overall.

It has to be a federal law, because with state laws, anyone can go to a neighboring state, and get around the law.

I noticed that there are few crimes committed with fully automatic machine guns, and the fact that they are much more regulated than other guns, no? That seems like a strong correlation between a federal law and the lower incidence of crimes.

Okay, I'm no expert ( is it that obvious? ) so, experts, enlighten me.

Thank you. (don't shoot, just a trial balloon here).
 
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Re: Should all "military-style" weapons be confiscated by the US government?

First off, we must establish a national weapons registry , we must weed out the irresponsible, the "semi-insane , the criminal and the insane ..I THINK we can do this , by now ..NOT 50 years ago - computers and operators were just being born .. This will take cooperation and a loss of some ''privacy" - major stumbling blocks ..
Then the ''assault" weapons must go, but this is the Rock of Gibraltar of stumbling blocks and may not be possible .. the failing low quality of too many people and this is NOT worth a civil war!
The alternative is to issue EVERY citizen of this nation a weapon and training ..Body bag manufacturers and conservatives will love this !

a most stupid suggestion given that criminals will not comply and cannot be prosecuted for failing to comply. We also know-based on cities and states that have banned sales of certain types of weapons and then requires current owners to register them (for grandfathering purposes) that compliance rates are less than 20%
 
Yes, and my reasoning, though not sound, probably emotional, probably nutty, goes like this:

I see more and more people, including children, posting pictures of themselves, or family, even children, posing with these military weapons.

In my view, it looks to me a lot like there is a gun fetish growing in this country. Badass looking weapons, like they see in movies a lot, and on TV, they are everywhere, it glorifies them, and when the are glorified, a lot of people want to participate, they want them, they see celebrities in movies with them and they want to be like them,

it's just like people smoking in movies.

People see movie stars smoking, and they want to smoke. When I was a kid in the 60s, most people smoked, and the consensus was that it was movies promoting cigarettes ( not directly, just by their being in movies) was causing people to want to smoke. Smoking culture has been so demonized in America now, parents getting wiser, people becoming more concerned about their health, that this is countering the fact that
smoking is still seen in films, so that ad effect is having less effect, these days, given growing public awareness of the dangers of nicotine.

The point is, Advertising works, put something ion a film, even though it's not a full on commercial, just the fact that it's placed, it's a celebrity quasi-subliminal ad. So, With guns, it also works. Now, I don't think we can force filmmakers to not use these guns in movies, but to help cure this fetish, or diminish it, I propose the following ( noting that it may or may not reduce crime, I just don't know ) :

Ban all of them, take them out of circulation. It will take time, but in time, it's doable.

Grant citizens the right to own single shot long guns, rifles and shot guns, no semi or fully automatic weapons or hand guns ( maybe not, not sure about hand guns, for now ).

You have the right to own a gun to kill game for food, and to defend yourself. That's SCOTUS on 2a, so either repeal it revise it, but until then, this is my idea.

Now, you're going to laugh at the next proposal, but I'll give my reasoning for it, as silly as it sounds:


Mandate that all guns in citizens hands ( not military or police ) to be pink in color.


Okay, before you start laughing your arse off, hear me out.

A few years ago, I witnessed an interesting experiment, it was on TV, as I recall.

Two very muscular guys were arm wrestling, they had big strong arms, and were about the same strength each.

They arm wrestled and they tied, not one could put the other down. So, they were told to go home and rest, and come back tomorrow.

Tomorrow they came back, and arm wrestled again, but this one, the guy the right had someone hold a pink card in front of his eyes. It wasn't so big he couldn't see well enough to arm wrestle his opponent.

The guy on the left beat him, easily. There was no question about it, they held for a second or two, and the guy on the left slammed him down.

So they were asked to go home, and come back again the next day.

Same guys on left and right to the camera. This time, they had the guy on the left look at a pink card while arm wrestling.

This time, the guy on the right easily beat him.


Just in case this test was an anomaly, they searched, and found, two different but similar guys, equal in strength, and guess what?

The same thing happened. There is something about pink that soothes the savage beast.

Anyway, you see where I'm going with this? Mandate boring looking guns only, single shot, and PINK.

Who knows, it might work insofar as reducing crimes.

Hell, I don't know, but I'm getting tired of boring solutions and people fetishizing guns.

It's time to do something.

yeah, I know, someone's going to kill someone with a pink gun, someone's going to rob a bank with a pink gun, I'm just sayin', maybe it will get the stats to go down overall.

It has to be a federal law, because with state laws, anyone can go to a neighboring state, and get around the law.

I noticed that there are few crimes committed with fully automatic machine guns, and the fact that they are much more regulated than other guns, no? That seems like a strong correlation between a federal law and the lower incidence of crimes.

Okay, I'm no expert ( is it that obvious? ) so, experts, enlighten me.

Thank you. (don't shoot, just a trial balloon here).

did you actually run this by someone who has critical thinking skills before posting it?
 
did you actually run this by someone who has critical thinking skills before posting it?

Why? that wasn't the point. I'm letting you guys with critical thinking skills do that.
 
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