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New SNAP Plan - Adjustment

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Im sure this was mention somewhere in this thread but i'll give my 2 cents anyways.
The only SNAP reform that should happen is limit the scope to what snap pays for. For instance SNAP recepients can pay for sodas, which I will never understand. But when legislators tried to take them away they were met in court and the courts ruled in favor of the advocisy group. The legal argument they used was its embarrassing to the poor for them to not be able to afford sodas and it woould disporportionally hurt minorities. This is the type of crap that prevents the change that is needed. (You're poor, you're using tax payer money, sodas have no nutritional value and is a big contributor to obesity and diebits)(yet you have some type of right to force the continueance of this horrible practice how?)
 
I imagine a lot food would be wasted since the people eating it aren't choosing what they want. The same thing happens at school. Anytime peas on the menu, 90% of them end up in the trashcan. We had a fruits and veggies program a few years ago giving all of the kids a chance to try different fruits and vegetables while learning what vitamins and junk were in them. You can't force them to eat it, so most of it ended up in the trash.
 
Waddy said:
Some items have to be paid for on a separate receipt. Some items don't qualify so the checker will refuse to pass them through. And I have seen the debit card they are issued here so I recognize it. BTW; sometimes they run out of money on the card, and some of the stuff they want to buy is held back and returned to stock.

Whatzamatter? Didn't think anyone could tell you were using one?
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You stand close enough to people to see what credit card they're using? Creepy.
 
KevinKohler said:
If they audit my open, they'll be blown away by my exquisite taste in beautiful women.

As for auditing food stamp customers, the audit is simply to see if what they are allotted monthly is what they are using monthly. Example being, John Q "filthy poor person", as you put it, gets 500 a month in EBT credit, but only spends 200 a month, or spends 800 a month.

Check your assumptions.
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Uhh, the EBT system already tracks the balance of the EBT card. What exactly are you proposing to add to this? You can't spend 800 a month on a $500 EBT card.
 
Unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is much more convenient and cost effective and conforms to our Republican form of Government.
 
Fascinating to see the same people that whined like little girls about the First Lady pushing healthier meals in the schools now claim the poor need to taught how to eat healthy foods, the Irony is overwhelming...... :roll:
 
Deuce said:
Uhh, the EBT system already tracks the balance of the EBT card. What exactly are you proposing to add to this? You can't spend 800 a month on a $500 EBT card.
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Those EBT cards require only a pin number to be used. No ID. No way of tracking WHERE that card goes, and WHO uses it. They are routinely traded and sold, used to buy smokes, booze, other drugs, all kinds of things.
 
KevinKohler said:
Those EBT cards require only a pin number to be used. No ID. No way of tracking WHERE that card goes, and WHO uses it. They are routinely traded and sold, used to buy smokes, booze, other drugs, all kinds of things.
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Why not eliminate that program and simply provide unemployed people with unemployment compensation in any of our at-will employment States?
 
KevinKohler said:
Those EBT cards require only a pin number to be used. No ID. No way of tracking WHERE that card goes, and WHO uses it. They are routinely traded and sold, used to buy smokes, booze, other drugs, all kinds of things.
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SNAP recipients use drugs at a lower rate than the general population, and the reason why should be pretty obvious.
 
danielpalos said:
Why not eliminate that program and simply provide unemployed people with unemployment compensation in any of our at-will employment States?
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Most EBT recipients are actually employed, but don't make a livable wage.

Google it.
 
Deuce said:
SNAP recipients use drugs at a lower rate than the general population, and the reason why should be pretty obvious.
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And yet, in my line of work, I routinely see people during EBT week paying with 2 different EBT accounts, 2 separate cards. And I know if I wanted to cause a fuss, I could ask to see some ID, the names wouldn't match. But it's not legally required to have an ID to use EBT....because, apparently, poor people just can't handle getting photo ID? Even though to shop at my store (a wholesale club) we issue them a photo ID? And since its not legally required, the company doesn't require it, because...they want the money.
 
danielpalos said:
Most probably already have kids. Offering unemployment compensation for individuals is a more cost effective solution.
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But is open to far more severe abuse and misuse.
 
Deuce said:
You stand close enough to people to see what credit card they're using? Creepy.
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Yeah, my eyesight is just fine. Don't like people looking over your shoulder? Whataya hiding?
 
KevinKohler said:
And yet, in my line of work, I routinely see people during EBT week paying with 2 different EBT accounts, 2 separate cards. And I know if I wanted to cause a fuss, I could ask to see some ID, the names wouldn't match. But it's not legally required to have an ID to use EBT....because, apparently, poor people just can't handle getting photo ID? Even though to shop at my store (a wholesale club) we issue them a photo ID? And since its not legally required, the company doesn't require it, because...they want the money.
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Yet again a response that doesn't actually address what I said
 
MrPeanut said:
I would like to see WIC expanded beyond 5 years. I think it is a great example of a good welfare system. I was a cashier for a grocery store about a decade ago, and WIC provided so much good quality food for people. Once that kid aged out of the program often times they would switch to EBT, and then you would see the carts that were full of Mountain Dew and Cheetos. How is a kid supposed to concentrate in school when they live off of that?
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Who knows? the bigger question is why is a family with children living off the government for more then 5 years, if the household provider after 5 years of children has not found the motivation to provide for their family then we need to have a different discussion then what benefits are going out.

That may sound super judgy, but at some point it's a discussion that needs to be had, are we just going to provide cradle to grave food support?
 
KevinKohler said:
Those EBT cards require only a pin number to be used. No ID. No way of tracking WHERE that card goes, and WHO uses it. They are routinely traded and sold, used to buy smokes, booze, other drugs, all kinds of things.
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That's something we can solve easily, say, you get ONE replacement card per 5 year period, lose a second one you're on a 5 year ban from SNAP benefits, and you must supply a police report for the lost card. and if you don't report it before it's used by the person who bought it, that amount is deducted from your benefit the next month.
 
MrPeanut said:
Why not restrict choices and do something like WIC? My fear of having this run on the national level is that big businesses will win the contract regardless of how unhealthy their food is.
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This is my thought. SNAP already buys food based on the UPC code. Just restrict the purchases to sensible food choices.
 
Lord of Planar said:
This is my thought. SNAP already buys food based on the UPC code. Just restrict the purchases to sensible food choices.
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"Sensible" means "stuff Lord of Planar doesn't think the poors should have," though.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
That's something we can solve easily, say, you get ONE replacement card per 5 year period, lose a second one you're on a 5 year ban from SNAP benefits, and you must supply a police report for the lost card. and if you don't report it before it's used by the person who bought it, that amount is deducted from your benefit the next month.
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Or just require photo ID to use.
 
If the taxpayer is paying for the food the government has every right to require healthy food purchases. That's not socialism, but of course food stamps itself is a socialist program. And the government has every right to require ID that keeps the system honest. When you provide the money for something, you have a say in what's purchased with that money.
 
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