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Are the 19 Women Accusing Trump ALL LYING? [W:168]

Are ALL 19 Trump accusers LYING?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 15.0%

  • No

    Votes: 51 85.0%
  • Total voters
    60
OrphanSlug said:
Voted no... but the even bigger problem is the majority of Trump supporters do not care.
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Trump could sexually mistreat, or rape 99.999% of Trump supporter's Mom's, sisters, aunts, nieces, wives, etc. and they would not even care.

they would just say, "Mom, where is the proof? Why are you lying about my super hero raping you?"
 
cuban smokes said:
Trump could sexually mistreat, or rape 99.999% of Trump supporter's Mom's, sisters, aunts, nieces, wives, etc. and they would not even care.

they would just say, "Mom, where is the proof? Why are you lying about my super hero raping you?"
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Would they? I have yet to hear a single Trump supporter call Trump their "super hero". Where do you come up with this stuff - HuffPo?
 
Poll options are severely lacking. Perhaps some are lying and some are telling the truth? Some have already been discredited, so at least some of them are lying. Partisan hack poll is a partisan hack poll.
 
Josie said:
No one knows the answer to this except each individual woman or witnesses to what happened.
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Sure if you want to apply an inconsistent, partisan standard of "certainty".

Republicans get a solipsist, democrats get shooting from the hip.
 
RedAkston said:
Poll options are severely lacking. Perhaps some are lying and some are telling the truth? Some have already been discredited, so at least some of them are lying. Partisan hack poll is a partisan hack poll.
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Who was discredited?
 
RedAkston said:
Jessica Leeds
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https://www.npr.org/2016/10/14/4979...accuser-jessica-leeds-on-why-she-came-forward

"They served a dinner. After the dinner was cleared he began encroaching on my side of the seat," Leeds told NPR's Audie Cornish. "Mr. Trump started coming over to me and groping me and trying to embrace me. And then his hands started going up my skirt."

Leeds said the assault continued for several minutes, though, as she recalls, neither she nor Trump ever said anything.

"I don't recall saying no, I don't recall saying stop," she said. "I don't recall saying anything. It was like a silent pantomime. I remember at one point looking over at the guy in the seat across the aisle, and his eyes were like bugging out of his head."

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sounds like Trump was grabbing some ***** ..................... who would believe that? Billy Bush?
 
cuban smokes said:
what are the odds of all 19 of the women that are known (to date) to have accused POTUS Trump of sexual misconduct and/or sexual assault lying?

why would 19 different women makes these claims & why would ALL 19 of these women be lying about such serious accusations?

Are the 19 Women Accusing Trump ALL LYING? Yes, or No?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Trump Calls Sexual Misconduct Accusations '''Fake News''' | Time
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The correct answer is We don't know. Because none of us are the accusers and accused.Nor were any of us there when the alleged incidences occurred. Until charges are filed and Trump is found guilty in a criminal court of law their claims mean nothing. This lets accuse someone of something without any evidence and remove them from office or deny them a job is absurd.
 
Josie said:
You can think, believe and assume but you can't KNOW unless you are the woman or were a witness to what happened.

I assume Trump has sexually harassed and even assaulted women because of how he conducts himself and speaks about women. I don't know it for a fact, though.
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Which is why those who like him refuse to believe it. Just like Trump is doing now with Porter.
 
Carleen said:
Which is why those who like him refuse to believe it. Just like Trump is doing now with Porter.
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Just like people who are/were infatuated with Bill Clinton refuse to believe the Clinton accusers. I find these people are mostly 50+ women.
 
Josie said:
Just like people who are/were infatuated with Bill Clinton refuse to believe the Clinton accusers. I find these people are mostly 50+ women.
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I’m 74 and I think they are all guilty.
 
RedAkston said:
Jessica Leeds
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I'm not buying that:

Trump spokesman Jason Miller responded to the allegation calling it "fiction." Miller stated the charges were politically motivated "for this to only become public decades later in the final month of a campaign for president should say it all." Trump publicly threatened to sue the Times over the newspaper's publication of the allegation, and demanded a retraction.[61][62] The Times rejected Trump's retraction demand,[62][63] and Trump never followed through on his threat to take legal action against the company.[13] An alleged witness to the case who claimed he saw "nothing untoward" upon the flight was former British Conservative county councillor from Gloucestershire, Antony Gilberthorpe. Gilberthorpe has previously made false allegations against politicians[64] and has been previously accused of making "advances of an intimate nature" towards Conservative students.[65]
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Another passengers lack of confirmation is not proof that no contact occurred.
 
Cephus said:
I would believe them if they went into court with actual, objectively verifiable evidence. When do you think that's going to happen?
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Corroboration. I asked you if that would convince you. Or do you need video or something?
Is eyewitness testimony evidence to you?
 
Absentglare said:
I'm not buying that:





Another passengers lack of confirmation is not proof that no contact occurred.
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I'm sorry you're not buying it, but this is how accusations work. Not one of the 19 have provided any proof, we're supposed to take them at their word. Conveniently, they all came forward just before the election. Not when the Republican primaries were taking place, not before he announced, not when he was a TV celebrity, right before the election.

No trial has taken place, no one has been found guilty and you're dismissing the word of someone who states that what one of the accusers stated never actually happened. So I guess it all boils down to who to believe. Without proof, it's hard to believe any of them. The timing is certainly convenient, don't you think?
 
RedAkston said:
I'm sorry you're not buying it, but this is how accusations work. Not one of the 19 have provided any proof, we're supposed to take them at their word. Conveniently, they all came forward just before the election. Not when the Republican primaries were taking place, not before he announced, not when he was a TV celebrity, right before the election.

No trial has taken place, no one has been found guilty and you're dismissing the word of someone who states that what one of the accusers stated never actually happened. So I guess it all boils down to who to believe. Without proof, it's hard to believe any of them. The timing is certainly convenient, don't you think?
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I didn't dismiss their word, i said that their word is irrelevant. Ignorance isn't meaningful. Another passenger not seeing anything is not convincing in the slightest. I think the absurdity of claiming that a passenger on an airplane must have a perfect inventory of every physical contact made everywhere on a plane speaks for itself.

The ridiculousness of your partisan demand that the victim of a crime play the role of investigator and prosecutor for your benefit also speaks for itself.

Of course, if you see a man who sexually assaulted you running for president, you might very feel an moral obligation to inform the public. It's a silly thing to pretend that the timing of the allegation somehow disproves any credibility it might have.

Nineteen women have levied accusations. President Trump himself has bragged about the behavior, from barging in to nude 15 year old girls, to grabbing a woman "by the *****".
 
cuban smokes said:
Trump could sexually mistreat, or rape 99.999% of Trump supporter's Mom's, sisters, aunts, nieces, wives, etc. and they would not even care.

they would just say, "Mom, where is the proof? Why are you lying about my super hero raping you?"
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Well... women generally lie so the odds are that if your mom made that claim that it would be false.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Well... women generally lie so the odds are that if your mom made that claim that it would be false.
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well, my Mom was married to my Dad for 64 years, before she passed away 38 months ago so, I guess my Mom wouldn't be able to make that claim; would she?

Care to bring up any more dumb ass ideas?
 
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Grand Mal said:
Corroboration. I asked you if that would convince you. Or do you need video or something?
Is eyewitness testimony evidence to you?
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I need some kind of evidence that would stand up in a court of law.
 
Cephus said:
I need some kind of evidence that would stand up in a court of law.
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Unrefuted eye-witness testimony, then.
For what it's worth, I agree. Anything less is actionable as slander or liable (I can never remember the difference).
 
Grand Mal said:
Unrefuted eye-witness testimony, then.
For what it's worth, I agree. Anything less is actionable as slander or liable (I can never remember the difference).
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That can stand up under cross examination, sure. But most of the people making these accusations aren't interested in walking into a courtroom. Wonder why?
 
cuban smokes said:
well, my Mom was married to my Dad for 64 years, before she passed away 38 months ago so, I guess my Mom wouldn't be able to make that claim; would she?

Care to bring up any more dumb ass ideas?
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Perhaps not count in months for how long a person has been dead?

Do you do that with everybody that dies that you know or just close family?

Like, I counted in months for my kids but once they got about a year and a half old I went to years...
 
Bodhisattva said:
Perhaps not count in months for how long a person has been dead?

Do you do that with everybody that dies that you know or just close family?

Like, I counted in months for my kids but once they got about a year and a half old I went to years...
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you could try sticking to the thread topic but I understand that is asking a lot, from U ..............
 
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