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Fiddytree said:

The fun thing that I have to figure out is if my disability also impacts how I perceive things.

On one hand, I stare a bit more closely at these technology things than many people (while still not being anywhere near a videophile). But on the other, I am sometimes way less taken by color and real-life visuals than most people. I have a non-verbal learning disability, which contains a visual processing disorder, making it difficult for me to figure out real-life spatial depth, body coordination, visual mapping skills, and even general visual appreciation for stuff around me. So colors may not hit me as much.

Oddly, I feel bad for saying this, but I can't really get swept up in good views. They just don't really compute most of the time. Yellowstone National Park? I can intellectually appreciate it, but I never was able to just go "wow."

So, unless I have someone showing me direct comparisons of images, I wonder if I am simply missing the HDR boat, here.

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To be honest, HDR is like so many other advances in the business, it is exploding onto the scene so now everyone is over-doing it like a pubescent teen who wanks ten times a day, know what I mean? The kid just discovered that his weenie does new tricks and he can't put the damn thing down.

So, just like with everything else, sometimes....SOMETIMES, a little less equals a little more.
A very good friend of mine who possesses insane visual processing skills in the industry has a knack for using HDR to the point where he actually IS able to make the mundane look romantic. A simple stupid shot of an old beater car sitting in front of a rather ordinary looking suburban home suddenly takes on a stunning warmth and sensuality that makes you want to hotwire that old heap and hit the highway pedal to the metal.

But that's just him. If I did it, it would look like all the rest of the HDR junkies out there, like I am trying way too hard.
I am guessing I am probably the most polar opposite to you imaginable.
I am on the autism spectrum, as an "Aspie" and my blessing (or curse?) is that I am super-sensitive to visual and audio stimuli and have what might be the equivalent of a VCR in my head.

The right piece of music will send me into a reverie that I might not come out of for hours...by choice! :2razz:

It's the reason I wound up being a film editor...not because I am possessed of some genius level storytelling ability, I am probably slightly above average in that department, but because I can do everything faster and more accurately than a lot of people who would sweat that stuff.
Now as I age, with my eyes and ears starting to lose their acuity, it's painful...so I soak up as much of the stuff as I can, while I still can.

grip said:

I saw a TV show about how the human eye can only distinguish so much detail and that anything being sold beyond that was pure techno crappola.

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They oversimplified. The supposed "actual spatial resolution" of the human eye, assuming good vision health, is about 6K resolution but it's not enough to just spit out that number and be done with it because that's really just a general yardstick under optimum conditions, and the conditions have everything to do with....everything.

The same goes with reference to judging a monitor, just SAYING it's "4K" is wildly inaccurate because all the other specs influence each other.

It is possible to go so ridiculously deep on this stuff that it would take up seventy pages and put most of the rest of the gang here to sleep, or make their eyes pinwheel like a horse on crystal meth.

Cardinal said:

I'm happy not to have to navigate using a giant road atlas while I'm driving, and I like Yelp, but I believe social media in particular has made us an objectively less happy people. It's also been awful for my line of work, but new technology killing jobs is hardly new.

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Bingo...getting rid of my Thomas Guide (formerly popular must-have road atlas for L.A. streets and highways in spiral binder form) was one of the happiest days of my life. Yes, I do LOVE my GPS but I mourn the fact that I used to have a lot of that stuff IN MY HEAD.
Smartphones wound up killing off another gift I used to have! I used to have something like 700 phone numbers memorized, people I really needed to keep in touch with. I doubt if I even know MY OWN DAUGHTER'S actual phone number now!
I just push next to her name and blammo, she's on the phone, so why should I have her number memorized?
That's HORRIBLE!!

Fiddytree said:

By the way, I wouldn't want to compress all of that data onto a mere 200 gb micro sd card. Audio, you would have a better shot at, but once you start throwing video on too....you're just asking for trouble. 1 DVD rip, generally speaking, should be between 700 mb-1.5 gb.

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---and by the way, I wouldn't want to COMPRESS.....ANYTHING!!!
Or, to be realistic, I don't like to compress anything more than I have to at MINIMUM or to compress more than ONCE overall.
If it's on an optical disc, it's already BEEN compressed somewhat, so I am loathe to compress it again.
If I am forced to, I would choose a codec that is either generally recognized as "lossless" or is "lossless enough" that it doesn't do a giant quality hit on the material.

Too many people obsess with trying to cram as much as possible into as small a space as possible.
You'll kill the quality when you do that...very badly.
Storage media is fvcking CHEAP, so fork over real money and get some storage, lots of it.
And never EVER put all your eggs in one "basket" so to speak, at least not your top level copies of it anyway.
It's perfectly okay to carry around your whole media library on your 256 GB microSD card in your phone or tablet in compressed form as long as it's not the only version of everything you have, and as long as you understand that you've compressed the crap out of it.
Keep a high quality backup of your stuff so if and when your card goes kaput, you can reload the stuff.
And on a final note, if you really DO HAVE high end audio and video gear, you WILL NOTICE the compression, I guarantee you will. You will hear the compression artifacts and SEE them on the screen, and it will look and sound like dung.

I'd rather put up with minor inconvenience and effort and have it all as high quality as possible.
I didn't pay good money for good audio gear just to listen to crap on a 128k mp3 that sounds like it went through a cuisinart, with the cuisinart sound still in the background, get it?

Checkerboard Strangler said:

Bingo...getting rid of my Thomas Guide (formerly popular must-have road atlas for L.A. streets and highways in spiral binder form) was one of the happiest days of my life. Yes, I do LOVE my GPS but I mourn the fact that I used to have a lot of that stuff IN MY HEAD.
Smartphones wound up killing off another gift I used to have! I used to have something like 700 phone numbers memorized, people I really needed to keep in touch with. I doubt if I even know MY OWN DAUGHTER'S actual phone number now!
I just push next to her name and blammo, she's on the phone, so why should I have her number memorized?
That's HORRIBLE!!

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I still remember phone numbers of friends from high school. Now? literally the only other current phone number I've memorized besides my own is my wife's. That's it.

grip said:

The world is always changing. Since, I was a child I've seen music alone go from vinyl, 8 track, cassette tape, CD to digital. I've seen TV go from 3 free Network channels to cable with hundreds of channels for $130 a month. My point is though we're used to change, the rate at which we have social variances compared to the centuries before, is the rate so drastic that most aging adults can barely keep up with?

Just when I thought I got the handle on VCR's, DVD's and PC's, there came smartphones, which I can't barely function with. Now Social Media has transformed society into something, I not only can barely recognize, but don't even know how to function within.

Do you feel comfortable with the way the world is changing and at its current pace?

Yes or No?

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The whole digital revolution left me behind long time ago, but I've found a way to be comfortable with it all. I just stopped trying to keep up.

Skeptic Bob said:

It is a mixed bag for me. One one hand I love what is happening with TV streaming services like Netflix and Hulu. High quality shows that perhaps don’t appeal to huge masses can still succeed. And since they aren’t competing for time slots there is a much wider selection. And I love the fact that I have the entire collection of humainity’s music, literature and knowledge on a device in my pocket.

The downside is social media causes overreactions and disproportionate responses to mild transgressions. Mob mentality seems to becoming more and more prevalent. Mistakes we used to chalk up to youthful indiscretions can now destroy a person’s life thanks to the permanent nature of the internet.

The only social media I use is Facebook about once a day and I am only FB friends with peoplemImactually know in real life. That and Debate Politics.

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Know what makes me go bug-fvck insane?
THIS kind of Facebook post:

"Remember when we used to love our pocket transistor radios?
Remember when 8-tracks were so great?
Remember how wonderful it was to pick up the phone and dial the numbers?
Remember when the TV had to warm up and you had three channels?
Remember when Coke came in 6 ounce bottles and you had to use the bottle opener?"

Aaaaaccckkkkkk!!

Transistor radios sounded like ass.
8-tracks sucked ass.
Rotary dial phones sucked ass.
Old NTSC analog standard def TV looked AND sounded like ass.
Coke destroyed countless pancreases and teeth for a generation.

There, I got it out of my system, I feel better now!

And I didn't sweat and agonize over countless hours editing a film, music video or show just so some millennial fop could watch it on a 4 inch screen and be an armchair critic when they can't even see or hear the damn thing the way it was meant to be seen and heard.
And unfortunately that's what most audiences do these days, LOL!

And one more thing: Beats headphones suck ass. Cheap plastic overpriced junk.
Dre should be hung from the 17th floor of the Capitol Records building by his nuts for coming out with those.

grip said:

The world is always changing. Since, I was a child I've seen music alone go from vinyl, 8 track, cassette tape, CD to digital. I've seen TV go from 3 free Network channels to cable with hundreds of channels for $130 a month. My point is though we're used to change, the rate at which we have social variances compared to the centuries before, is the rate so drastic that most aging adults can barely keep up with?

Just when I thought I got the handle on VCR's, DVD's and PC's, there came smartphones, which I can't barely function with. Now Social Media has transformed society into something, I not only can barely recognize, but don't even know how to function within.

Do you feel comfortable with the way the world is changing and at its current pace?

Yes or No?

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No.

I am totally future shocked by it.

Great isn't it!

Cardinal said:

I still remember phone numbers of friends from high school. Now? literally the only other current phone number I've memorized besides my own is my wife's. That's it.

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It's amazing the housekeeping tricks a brain will do.
Not me, the moment my brain realized it did not NEED to memorize all those numbers, BLAMMO, out the door they went.
And I am an Aspie so memorizing stuff like that was like breathing for me.
I used to be able to memorize a person's number after only hearing it once...just once.
Twenty years later they couldn't believe I had their number, when did they give it to me?? (LOL)

Not anymore.
Instead I can memorize entire scenes in a movie, I used to be able to do that and still can, and use it for work.
I know each and every note in a song, literally.
My Leon Russell project was something I had to restore ONE. FRAME. AT. A. TIME.
279,000 frames of old standard definition analog television video shot in 1972, and in order to make it look pretty
on a fifty foot movie theater screen I had to restore and up-rez every single frame, like an oil painting being restored by a museum archivist. I know every single frame in that project like the back of my hand.

But I can't remember my kids' phone numbers. I just push the listing next to their name on my smartphone!

Checkerboard Strangler said:

Know what makes me go bug-fvck insane?
THIS kind of Facebook post:

"Remember when we used to love our pocket transistor radios?
Remember when 8-tracks were so great?
Remember how wonderful it was to pick up the phone and dial the numbers?
Remember when the TV had to warm up and you had three channels?
Remember when Coke came in 6 ounce bottles and you had to use the bottle opener?"

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Transistor radios sounded like ass.
8-tracks sucked ass.
Rotary dial phones sucked ass.
Old NTSC analog standard def TV looked AND sounded like ass.
Coke destroyed countless pancreases and teeth for a generation.

There, I got it out of my system, I feel better now!

And I didn't sweat and agonize over countless hours editing a film, music video or show just so some millennial fop could watch it on a 4 inch screen and be an armchair critic when they can't even see or hear the damn thing the way it was meant to be seen and heard.
And unfortunately that's what most audiences do these days, LOL!

And one more thing: Beats headphones suck ass. Cheap plastic overpriced junk.
Dre should be hung from the 17th floor of the Capitol Records building by his nuts for coming out with those.

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What was there to compare these things to? When you don't know any better, you don't know poop from Shinola!
As far as the Coca-Cola thing, my mother told me that if you decided to short the Tooth Fairy and leave the tooth in a glass of Coke overnight, by morning the tooth would be dissolved!

Lutherf said:

We're headed for a zombie apocalypse sponsored by Twitter and Amazon. It will be mere moments before your television come equipped with a credit card slot and your car pulls itself into JuffyLube for an oil change.

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I think TV's will have "Wallet App", just like cell phones.

I think credit cards will become obsolete. You'll go to a store, do a retina scan or fingerprint scan - and your banking institution(s) will maintain a database of those things to verify who you are - and then what account you want to choose to make payment from will pop up on a little screen at the retailer or vendor.

grip said:

Did you know the human eye cannot tell the difference between regular LCD TV from 4K TV?

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I prefer 48/60fps at HD than 24/30fps on 4k.

grip said:

Did you know the human eye cannot tell the difference between regular LCD TV from 4K TV?

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Depends on the screen size, distance from the screen and it varies from person to person

Elvira said:

I read Best Buy is discontinuing CD's...makes me sad to see them go and I don't know how I'll get my music if they become obsolete...I like paying for something and having it in my hot little hands...downloading is for the birds...

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Totally with you there. I like the higher quality audio and supporting artists I like. I do rip the stuff to wav of flac for portability, though.

CD's? Best Buy had a decent selection in the 1990's. Try Amazon for CD's or vinyl. I have found some truly obscure things on Ebay as well.

Yes or no?

Yes with keeping up technologically.

Not so sure about socially.

grip said:

The world is always changing. Since, I was a child I've seen music alone go from vinyl, 8 track, cassette tape, CD to digital. I've seen TV go from 3 free Network channels to cable with hundreds of channels for $130 a month. My point is though we're used to change, the rate at which we have social variances compared to the centuries before, is the rate so drastic that most aging adults can barely keep up with?

Just when I thought I got the handle on VCR's, DVD's and PC's, there came smartphones, which I can't barely function with. Now Social Media has transformed society into something, I not only can barely recognize, but don't even know how to function within.

Do you feel comfortable with the way the world is changing and at its current pace?

Yes or No?

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For young whipper snappers it is no problem (right now). But, we live in an era when baby boomers are becoming seniors at exponentially expanding rates. It was just 15 years ago my dad was alive and I just couldn't get him to figure out how to work the remote control for the television or work the microwave or even the call button when he was in the nursing home. I'm around 60 now and it's getting harder and harder for me to keep up with knowing how to program every damn thing. We've got televisions, cable boxes, smartphones and several different types of internet accessing tech devices, and all different types of accounts (including banking and paying bills), all with different user names and passwords. Hacking goes on all the time and I'm terrified of using a password storing program to remember it all because if hackers hack that then they have everything all at one fell swoop. I can't imagine how I can keep up with this when I'm over 80 and by then there will be oodles more added on to what we have now.

grip said:

The world is always changing. Since, I was a child I've seen music alone go from vinyl, 8 track, cassette tape, CD to digital. I've seen TV go from 3 free Network channels to cable with hundreds of channels for $130 a month. My point is though we're used to change, the rate at which we have social variances compared to the centuries before, is the rate so drastic that most aging adults can barely keep up with?

Just when I thought I got the handle on VCR's, DVD's and PC's, there came smartphones, which I can't barely function with. Now Social Media has transformed society into something, I not only can barely recognize, but don't even know how to function within.

Do you feel comfortable with the way the world is changing and at its current pace?

Yes or No?

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Yes to the extent (mainly technological improvements) it will improve lives.

No because some of the changes are political, and negative and/or regressive in nature.

Overall I understand that the trend is towards improvement, but I personally think the USA is regressing culturally and politically in some ways.

For example, we have what almost looks like nazis (and one actual former nazi) running or elected in a few places.
And we have the entire establishment hyping how Russia tried (and may have succeeded) in influencing our election in 2016, and will try again. Some are using that bull**** to claim anyone pointing out actual problems is working for Russia (as long as they're criticizing democratic establishment).

Maybe it's more of the same, but I thought we had moved past such idiocy.

Checkerboard Strangler said:

Know what makes me go bug-fvck insane?
THIS kind of Facebook post:

"Remember when we used to love our pocket transistor radios?
Remember when 8-tracks were so great?
Remember how wonderful it was to pick up the phone and dial the numbers?
Remember when the TV had to warm up and you had three channels?
Remember when Coke came in 6 ounce bottles and you had to use the bottle opener?"

Aaaaaccckkkkkk!! View attachment 67228355

Transistor radios sounded like ass.
8-tracks sucked ass.
Rotary dial phones sucked ass.
Old NTSC analog standard def TV looked AND sounded like ass.
Coke destroyed countless pancreases and teeth for a generation.

There, I got it out of my system, I feel better now!

And I didn't sweat and agonize over countless hours editing a film, music video or show just so some millennial fop could watch it on a 4 inch screen and be an armchair critic when they can't even see or hear the damn thing the way it was meant to be seen and heard.
And unfortunately that's what most audiences do these days, LOL!

And one more thing: Beats headphones suck ass. Cheap plastic overpriced junk.
Dre should be hung from the 17th floor of the Capitol Records building by his nuts for coming out with those.

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Arguably every individual or organization that pushed or is pushing over use of things that harm in sufficient dosage should be harshly penalized to dissuade such behavior in the future.
I am specifically thinking of overuse of sugar and opioids as I write this, but it could obviously be applied to other things.

Progress is good, but not all change is progress. Progress itself can create new problems, as well.


There are some aspects of our increasingly connected digital world that trouble me... potential for abuses.


On the whole though I am good with technological progress. I don't bother getting the latest and greatest tech but I try to keep up with what's useful.

No one is forcing you to change. You can stay planted in the 90's if you want. I pick and choose what I will use of the new technologies. I also think the next 50 years will bring a bigger revolution than anything we've ever experienced by magnitudes of difference.

grip said:

The world is always changing. Since, I was a child I've seen music alone go from vinyl, 8 track, cassette tape, CD to digital. I've seen TV go from 3 free Network channels to cable with hundreds of channels for $130 a month. My point is though we're used to change, the rate at which we have social variances compared to the centuries before, is the rate so drastic that most aging adults can barely keep up with?

Just when I thought I got the handle on VCR's, DVD's and PC's, there came smartphones, which I can't barely function with. Now Social Media has transformed society into something, I not only can barely recognize, but don't even know how to function within.

Do you feel comfortable with the way the world is changing and at its current pace?

Yes or No?

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Sort of. My car just turned 110,000 miles and I have not done anything but put gas, tires, and oil into it. When I was younger I would have been lucky to get a car to last a hundred grand. On the other hand, it cost 30 times what my first car cost. I have a cell phone that is like a Star Trek communicator. On the other hand, I wish I could throw my it away so I wouldn't have to put up with all of the robocalls. It's a trade off.

Superfly said:

My family has always teased me because my husband and myself always are the first ones to have the newest TVs or newest phones or whatever. We were the first in the family to have a Bluray player, first to get iPads, etc. But the funny thing is, we don't buy things early. We don't usually buy "first runs." We wait for a while and let all the kinks get worked out, and by then, there is a 2nd or 3rd edition, the kinks are mostly worked out, and we save a bundle because we waited.

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We didn't get our first DVD player until something like 2005 - we only used a VCR before then. Our first sorta-kinda flat-screen TV was in about 2009. This PC I'm using now was bought in 2011...but my wife's Mac across the table is a relative dinosaur - she bought it in 2003 and she still loves it.

grip said:

The world is always changing. Since, I was a child I've seen music alone go from vinyl, 8 track, cassette tape, CD to digital. I've seen TV go from 3 free Network channels to cable with hundreds of channels for $130 a month. My point is though we're used to change, the rate at which we have social variances compared to the centuries before, is the rate so drastic that most aging adults can barely keep up with?

Just when I thought I got the handle on VCR's, DVD's and PC's, there came smartphones, which I can't barely function with. Now Social Media has transformed society into something, I not only can barely recognize, but don't even know how to function within.

Do you feel comfortable with the way the world is changing and at its current pace?

Yes or No?

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Social media is ruining people turning people into emotionally starved emo whores

I'm using my iPad mini to Chromecast (4K edition) Tidal Hi-Fi subscription music to my TV and my Integra DRX-4 and Martin Logan 60 XT's while I write reports using Google Drive containing personally scanned PDF files and Microsoft OneNote for reference points.

These are the good days.



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Goshin said:

Progress is good, but not all change is progress. Progress itself can create new problems, as well.


There are some aspects of our increasingly connected digital world that trouble me... potential for abuses.


On the whole though I am good with technological progress. I don't bother getting the latest and greatest tech but I try to keep up with what's useful.

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I agree that change is not always progress, even all tech advances are not necessarily positive. I fear social media is strangling free speech and becoming an addictive substitute wasteland of superficial replacement for relationships. It's also attempting social engineering with mob think and over sensitive causes.

Hacking is affecting, voting, banking, cryptocurrency, warfare, gov secrets and eventually privacy. The more sophisticated the communications and connections become, the more cracks in code and protocols for intruders. You can have a complicated and advanced platform but the pipelines to it need to be made simpler for securities sake.

Moderate Right said:

For young whipper snappers it is no problem (right now). But, we live in an era when baby boomers are becoming seniors at exponentially expanding rates. It was just 15 years ago my dad was alive and I just couldn't get him to figure out how to work the remote control for the television or work the microwave or even the call button when he was in the nursing home. I'm around 60 now and it's getting harder and harder for me to keep up with knowing how to program every damn thing. We've got televisions, cable boxes, smartphones and several different types of internet accessing tech devices, and all different types of accounts (including banking and paying bills), all with different user names and passwords. Hacking goes on all the time and I'm terrified of using a password storing program to remember it all because if hackers hack that then they have everything all at one fell swoop. I can't imagine how I can keep up with this when I'm over 80 and by then there will be oodles more added on to what we have now.

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Like Goshin mentioned, I try to use whatever new tech is advantageous for me and not for the sake of novelty. I might switch to paying bills online for ease of use and to save money on stamps. But then I'll need a large thumb drive (USB 256GB) backup for personal info, insurance files, bookmarks, documents, photos, music, videos etc. Trusting my bank accounts online is a little spooky. You could get wiped out from identity theft overnight with little recourse. My dad bought Lincolns back in the mid 90's, which even then were nothing more than Crown Vic's with power buttons and digital upgrades. Many PC's, smartphones, appliances, automobiles etc are only considered upgrades and priced more from having more options, which I find usually useless.