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Macy's to launch clothing line geared toward Muslim women

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Why would anyone have doubts or just think it's a bad idea? It's a company filling a need. That is about as American as it gets.
 
Desert Storm said:
Step 1 of muslim stockholm syndrome is complete.

Moving on to step 2
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Down where I come from there's whole blocks dedicated to East Indian clothing, food, jewellry, music and movies, all aspects of Punjabi culture. Some of those food stores smell wonderful and the sari stores are dazzlingly colourful.
Is that a problem for you?
Stockholm syndrome, ferchristsake. Jeez.
 
We're talking about Macy's here right? It's business, if they want to make money by offering up a line, that's their business. If it's short sighted or not, American or not is not the question.
 
Praxas said:
Yeah how DARE businesses cater to their clientele, those stores should only do as you like and only cater to whities am I right? :roll:
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Exactly. And for all the drama I've already read in this thread...they'll dump the line if it doesnt make $.

THey are catering to a perceived market...if it pans out, great. Why should Muslim women have a harder time finding clothes?
 
I'd go for the head coverings if they catch on...my hair is a PIA to get to look decent.

Except for work, I rarely go out in public in my rural community without a ballcap on.
 
Superfly said:
Not sure why this is a bad idea (to some) and not really sure why this hasn't been done before.

I think it's a great idea. Why wouldn't it be?
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Current marketing results numbers
 
Lursa said:
I'd go for the head coverings if they catch on...my hair is a PIA to get to look decent.

Except for work, I rarely go out in public in my rural community without a ballcap on.
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Its sexist that they don't make hijabs for men. There have been plenty of days where I woke up hung over, unshaven with my hair a mess that a man-hijab would be just the ticket.
 
I've always maintained the solution to Muslim extremism, will be assimilation.

Show someone a better life, and they'll take it. If not them, then their kids & grandkids. It's the story of America ...
 
Fletch said:
Its sexist that they don't make hijabs for men. There have been plenty of days where I woke up hung over, unshaven with my hair a mess that a man-hijab would be just the ticket.
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Totally agree! And think of the sunburned heads it would save some men from!

I suggest that you start a trend....:)
 
Chomsky said:
I've always maintained the solution to Muslim extremism, will be assimilation.

Show someone a better life, and they'll take it. If not them, then their kids & grandkids. It's the story of America ...
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Hence the great advantage that the Saudis have in the madrassas they finance.
 
Fletch said:
Its sexist that they don't make hijabs for men. There have been plenty of days where I woke up hung over, unshaven with my hair a mess that a man-hijab would be just the ticket.
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Please show us a "mens" hijab compared to a woman's hijab and you might make some sense. there is nothing stopping you from putting on a woman's hijab.
 
Fletch said:
Its sexist that they don't make hijabs for men. There have been plenty of days where I woke up hung over, unshaven with my hair a mess that a man-hijab would be just the ticket.
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Wear a dastaar and grow out the beard?
 
Praxas said:
Please show us a "mens" hijab compared to a woman's hijab and you might make some sense. there is nothing stopping you from putting on a woman's hijab.
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...and there is that.
 
Praxas said:
Please show us a "mens" hijab compared to a woman's hijab and you might make some sense. there is nothing stopping you from putting on a woman's hijab.
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It as a joke, dude. Try and lighten up.
 
Fletch said:
It as a joke, dude. Try and lighten up.
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Sorry I don’t lighten up to racists and bigots like most of your comments are.
 
Praxas said:
Sorry I don’t lighten up to racists and bigots like most of your comments are.
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Give me an example of a racist quote or withdraw your smear.
 
Fletch said:
Give me an example of a racist quote or withdraw your smear.
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Nope I don’t appease racists and bigots like yourself. I have posted many bigoted comments from you.
 
Back to Macy's and their new clothing line, please, 5 more days and we'll know more.
 
Praxas said:
Nope I don’t appease racists and bigots like yourself. I have posted many bigoted comments from you.
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Then you should have no trouble finding one. Otherwise you are just flaming.
 
Fletch said:
Then you should have no trouble finding one. Otherwise you are just flaming.
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Nope I don’t dance for you. Do your own work. I’m happy to let the forum see you as you really are, a racist and bigot.
 
Lovebug said:
No biggie. Just wondering what the Muslim community would think if we took a liking to the style. Is it ok for non Muslims to wear traditional religious clothing?
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This is a common mistake and why so many people have a misconception.

The clothing, to include the veil, is cultural, not religious. Like so many borrowings, Muhammad adopted the veil into the Arab culture from the Sassanian and Byzantine cultures. It was argued as a means to protect family from blood feuds (a big problem). An offense on a woman was an offense on the honor of the family, thus the blood feud to avenge. The veil hid the face.

Of course, plenty of Muslims attribute the hijab to Islam and God. There is mention in the Qu'ran. The hijab include the veil, the burqa, the chador, and other articles of clothing. But this is, in most cases, a simple error in their own culture or simply a means by which they legitimize keeping their women. For example...

In Surah 24 (Quran 24:31) - And tell the believing women to subdue their eyes, and maintain their chastity. They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary. They shall cover their chests, and shall not relax this code in the presence of other than their husbands, their fathers, the fathers of their husbands, their sons, the sons of their husbands, their brothers, the sons of their brothers, the sons of their sisters, other women, the male servants or employees whose sexual drive has been nullified, or the children who have not reached puberty. They shall not strike their feet when they walk in order to shake and reveal certain details of their bodies. All of you shall repent to God, O you believers, that you may succeed.
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The Khimar is a hair covering article of clothing that reveals the face, but drapes down to around the waste. It can be used as a veil if one pulls up part of the material. The Khimar is in the Qu'ran in other verses. Things like the burqa or the chador were introduced into certain Muslim cultures long after the Quran (considered absolute and complete) was finished. Women, especially in Iran, politicized the burqa as a means to first defy the Shah's prohibiting laws, then to defy Khomeini's oppressive laws. The West tend to default to seeing it as merely an oppression in which women are forced to wear. But the facts are that many Muslim women prefer the clothing (plenty do not) and the vast majority of Muslims don't wear any of it at all.

These matters in the above scripture can be compared to the Wests' historical notions of a woman's place in the home, or former rules about skin covering on a beach, or the idea of a "lady." In terms of the above scripture, is it necessary to reveal skin on a beach? A bikini? We should remind ourselves that this scripture, and all the others, were written in the seventh century. Our culture has changed greatly since the 1920s, and so has the Muslim culture. Yet there are plenty of American Christian women today who prefer those older modest ideals; the idea that their husband runs the household and that their place is to raise the children. And they can use ancient Biblical scriptures to legitimize that role. But in the end, it was always more cultural than religious.
 
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