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Did you watch the State of the Union speech?

Did you watch the SOTU speech?

  • Yes, I'm a Trump supporter

    Votes: 6 11.8%

  • Yes, I'm not a Trump supporter

    Votes: 13 25.5%

  • Yes, I'm half/half on Trump (kind of supportive, but still don't like him, etc.)

    Votes: 6 11.8%

  • No, I'm a Trump supporter

    Votes: 3 5.9%

  • No, I'm not a Trump supporter

    Votes: 19 37.3%

  • No, I'm half/half on Trump (kind of supportive, but still don't like him, etc.)

    Votes: 4 7.8%
  • Total voters
    51
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Did you watch the speech? -- broken down by your thoughts on the President.
 
"Yes, I'm not a Trump supporter"... and I also played the SOTU drinking game, as plenty of DP already knows given last night's entertainment.
 
Nope, but then again I never watch the SOTU. I don't care what rah-rah speech the President has, I care how they perform in the real world.
 
Yes, I watched the speech. I didn't want to, but because it was for my PolSci assignment, I had to. At least I have plenty of notes.
 
I haven't watched a SOTU speech in a long, long time. They're worthless on substance, and they're gaudy spectacles unbefitting of a republic. Contrary to popular myth, they're not required by the Constitution.
 
Josie said:
Did you watch the speech? -- broken down by your thoughts on the President.
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Sure, let's give President Trump the authority to unlawfully terminate any and everyone at the FBI, IRS, CIA, and every other federal agency so he can "cleanse" the federal government of everyone who doesn't worship at the altar of Trump.

And then we'll attack North Korea to "unite" the country!
 
No!

Level of my support or non-support being totally irrelevant to that decision
 
I don't typically watch them, but I certainly was not going to watch this one only to hear various commentators say "he is finally looking presidential" simply because he is capable of reading at a 5th grade level from a teleprompter.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
I don't typically watch them, but I certainly was not going to watch this one only to hear various commentators say "he is finally looking presidential" simply because he is capable of reading at a 5th grade level from a teleprompter.
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But he managed to get through an entire hour and twenty minutes without calling black people "Alabama porch monkeys." Maybe he really is becoming Presidential and you're just too much of a Trump hater to see it.
 
Need an option for transcript. I hate watching video of any kind, waste of time.
 
Yes, and I voted as the half and half since I'm treating "trump supporter" as his die hard backers and "Not a trump supporter" as his die hard detractors for my voting purposes
 
No, but not because of Trump. I just never think there’s anything new or interesting to come from the SOTU.
 
Josie said:
Did you watch the speech? -- broken down by your thoughts on the President.
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I watched some of it. I was watching "Matilda" and suddenly looked at the time and realized it was on. I watched it for a couple minutes then switched back to Matilda, which is a great movie.
 
No. Trump is not a particularly good speaker. Most of his speeches are designed to self-aggrandize and wrought with facts and analysis that seemingly lack the rigor of been checked by staff before the speech. His speeches are characteristically dark, playing to our lesser angels rather than offering an uplifting vision of what America can be. I saw no reason to waste my time.

I understand it was one of the longest SOTU speeches of all-time. I went to the movies where I saw the Post* and was reminded that our country is great because we were preceded by the Greatest Generation, who had the foresight to see what America could be and the courage to protect that vision. My, how the mighty have fallen.

* - understand it was a story.... but it was an uplifting story that was more true than not.
 
Absentglare said:
Sure, let's give President Trump the authority to unlawfully terminate any and everyone at the FBI, IRS, CIA, and every other federal agency so he can "cleanse" the federal government of everyone who doesn't worship at the altar of Trump.

And then we'll attack North Korea to "unite" the country!
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You got all of that in the SOTU address? Explain?
 
Cardinal said:
But he managed to get through an entire hour and twenty minutes without calling black people "Alabama porch monkeys." Maybe he really is becoming Presidential and you're just too much of a Trump hater to see it.
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100% racist comment...
 
I watched until 10:00pm.

Couldn't take it anymore.
That's par for the course for SOTU addresses for me.
I can take about an hour.

The nonsensical grandstanding is like sand in my eyes.
I just get so sick of it all.

Regardless of who the POTUS is at the time.
 
antiquity said:
You got all of that in the SOTU address? Explain?
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"All Americans deserve accountability and respect, and that is what we are giving them. So tonight, I call on the Congress to empower every Cabinet secretary with the authority to reward good workers and to remove federal employees who undermine the public trust or fail the American people."

"North Korea’s reckless pursuit of nuclear missiles could very soon threaten our homeland. We are waging a campaign of maximum pressure to prevent that from happening."

And he went on for some time, pretending to care about North Korea's human rights abuses, to start building a case to liberate North Koreans. Too bad he couldn't muster any courage when discussing Putin's political assassinations, because if he had, i might have been fooled his lies.

And we recently heard this:

In private conversations, Trump has told advisers that he doesn’t think the 2018 election has to be as bad as others are predicting. He has referenced the 2002 midterms, when George W. Bush and Republicans fared better after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, these people said.
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The President Thinks a Second 9/11 Would Have Its Upsides

He wants a 9/11 event to "unite" the country for him. Certainly, a "bloody nose" attack on North Korea that could lead to a drawn out, costly, horrific war under the guise of "liberation", which worked out so well in Iraq, could "unite" some people.
 
Absentglare said:
"All Americans deserve accountability and respect, and that is what we are giving them. So tonight, I call on the Congress to empower every Cabinet secretary with the authority to reward good workers and to remove federal employees who undermine the public trust or fail the American people."

"North Korea’s reckless pursuit of nuclear missiles could very soon threaten our homeland. We are waging a campaign of maximum pressure to prevent that from happening."
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You actually disagree with either of those statements? You don't think government employee shouldn't be accountable?
You don't think NK is a threat to our security with the unstable nutcase that leads NK? I believe the NK pressure campaign Trump was talking about has to do with getting China to put sanctions on NK which I can't remember a single prior US administration doing that.
 
antiquity said:
You actually disagree with either of those statements? You don't think government employee shouldn't be accountable?
You don't think NK is a threat to our security with the unstable nutcase that leads NK? I believe the NK pressure campaign Trump was talking about has to do with getting China to put sanctions on NK which I can't remember a single prior US administration doing that.
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The president was requesting that congress empower him to fire federal employees in ways that are currently illegal. That's why he needs congress to change the laws.

I didn't say NK is not a threat. But the president talked about increasing our nuclear arsenal and then threatened NK, while suggesting that only "friends" of the US should be protected by our military. The president previously said that all the countries that voted against us in the UN on Jerusalem were not our "friends", so he's also moving to abandon NATO allegiance.
 
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