Was Nixon right? [W:50]

tres borrachos said:

Regarding Nixon, I think he was actually a good President. What he did with China was historic. Watergate absolutely ruined what otherwise for the most part would have been a good Presidency.

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Bombs Over Cambodia

story byTaylor Owen and Ben Kiernan
mapping byTaylor Owen

In the fall of 2000, twenty-five years after the end of the war in Indochina,
Bill Clinton became the first US president since Richard Nixon to visit
Vietnam. While media coverage of the trip was dominated by talk of
some two thousand US soldiers still classified as missing in action, a
small act of great historical importance went almost unnoticed. As a humanitarian
gesture, Clinton released extensive Air Force data on all American
bombings of Indochina between 1964 and 1975. Recorded using a
groundbreaking ibm-designed system, the database provided extensive
information on sorties conducted over Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.
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The still-incomplete database (it has several “dark” periods) reveals that
from October 4, 1965, to August 15, 1973, the United States dropped far
more ordnance on Cambodia than was previously believed: 2,756,941
tons’ worth, dropped in 230,516 sorties on 113,716 sites. Just over 10 percent
of this bombing was indiscriminate, with 3,580 of the sites listed as
having “unknown” targets and another 8,238 sites having no target listed
at all.

The database also shows that the bombing began four years earlier
than is widely believed—not under Nixon, but under Lyndon Johnson.

The impact of this bombing, the subject of much debate for the past
three decades, is now clearer than ever. Civilian casualties in Cambodia
drove an enraged populace into the arms of an insurgency that
had enjoyed relatively little support until the bombing began, setting
in motion the expansion of the Vietnam War deeper into Cambodia, a
coup d’état in 1970, the rapid rise of the Khmer Rouge, and ultimately
the Cambodian genocide.

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tres borrachos said:

Regarding Nixon, I think he was actually a good President. What he did with China was historic. Watergate absolutely ruined what otherwise for the most part would have been a good Presidency.

To your question, the answer is no, Nixon was wrong. Very wrong. And I think that comment really ended up hurting him, too.

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Cardinal said:

There is no question in my mind that it was right to investigate him and subsequently impeach him if he had forced it to come to that, but it's also remarkable the number of progressive accomplishments he came up with in spite of the kind of human being he was.

https://www.nixonfoundation.org/richard-nixons-top-domestic-and-foreign-policy-achievements/

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tres borrachos said:

Nixon founded the Environmental Protection Agency in 1970 as a response to the rising concern over conservation and pollution. The agency oversaw the passage of the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act and the Mammal Marine Protection Act

Unless you have no soul, no person thinks the continuation of pollution of our rivers and lakes and oceans and fields and mountains and so on was a good idea. Chemical dumping, all of it. Nixon had a soul, cranky and miserable as he was. His soul was on display there.

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tres borrachos said:

I'm sure he knows the meaning of the word obsessed. Do you know the meaning of the words "current President", "upcoming State of the Union", "discussion about a Republican President who was in a similar situation"?

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Cardinal said:

Whether Mueller is operating outside the scope of the mandate is a knowable thing. Repost it here.

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Perotista said:

Is it? I think only Mueller knows at this time. Him and his team.

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Cardinal said:

"Mr. Speaker, and Mr. President, and my distinguished colleagues and our guests: I would like to add a personal word with regard to an issue that has been of great concern to all Americans over the past year. I refer, of course, to the investigations of the so-called Watergate affair. As you know, I have provided to the Special Prosecutor voluntarily a great deal of material. I believe that I have provided all the material that he needs to conclude his investigations and to proceed to prosecute the guilty and to clear the innocent.

I believe the time has come to bring that investigation and the other investigations of this matter to an end. One year of Watergate is enough."

Richard Nixon: Address on the State of the Union Delivered Before a Joint Session of the Congress

Was Richard right to ask for the investigation to last only one year?

Sorry, there's no "other" choice.

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camlok said:

Is the mark of a good US presidency that of a man that was as evil as Hitler? Nixon was a Class A war criminal. Is that the mark of a good US presidency?

Nixon was massively bombing Vietnam, a country that only wanted its independence. He told Kissinger that he wanted everything that the US had that was capable of flying to bomb anything that moves on the ground in Cambodia. That is a full on admission that he was a Class A war criminal.

[see the map showing the bombing at the link below, which is for the following story and the map]

http://www.taylorowen.com/Articles/Walrus_CambodiaBombing_OCT06.pdf

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camlok said:

Nixon, and a whole host of US presidents didn't have any problems dumping massive amounts of one of the world's worst poisons, Agent Orange, all over Vietnam, and very likely other countries.

Current presidents, and seemingly, lovers of said war criminal presidents, appear to love depleted uranium munitions that create results like the following.

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Cardinal said:

There's no "other" choice.

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