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Should Schumer Be Replaced?

Should Schumer Be Replaced?


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That was the sentiment of 60% of western Canadians in the late 80's. We had been screwed one too many times and while the two westernmost provinces paid the bills, Quebec and Ontario got all the attention.

Along came a man named Preston Manning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_Manning and the Reform Party. Reform will go down in history as the moist significant vehicle for change that never formed government.

I've said before that as soon as the colonials threw out the king you built a castle for the president and to this day is the only democratically elected leader to be hailed into the room with his own military march music. Americans have to lose that concept, forget the two party system, which is one party with two sides and revolt.

The last election, if I recall correctly, was one of the poorest turn out of voters in history. Tap that, the people so fed up they can't be bothered to vote anymore because it makes no difference. That was what Reform tapped. They had to lose the ideas of right wing and left wing and embrace practicality; the party drove a huge reduction in the deficit, then drove a realignment of all of Canada's social programs, blowing them out of the water to be replaced by tax benefits. It was the most fundamental change in the Canadian system since WWII.

You are being destroyed from within by special interest groups and lobbyists. No one in Washington makes voting decisions on what's best for the country, but rather what is good for them. Rather like the senate in ancient Rome who gleefully invaded countries to rape and plunder to maintain their lavish lifestyles.

Can someone explain to me how it is every senator and congressman seem to be wealthy/

If by this you mean shed the political elite's control over government and corruption there of, I'm inclined to agree with you.

Whether or not that can be accomplished maintaining a 2 party system or not, appears to be the next question, the answer to which is 'I don't care if it does or doesn't', as the corruption of the government is far more important, in my view. It could very well be that the 2 major parties evolve and adapt to what might be called a 'post political elite period'.
 
Depends entirely if his constituents want him to be or not.

Actually, I was talking about his status as minority leader of the Senate, which doesn't really have anything to do with his constituents.
 
Democratic partisans continue to vote for ******s and wimps and expect different results. Don’t laugh and point fingers if you are a GOP partisan. Trump, McConnell, Cotton and the rest are not the answer.

What America needs is a new government, one based on actual democracy with equal rights and justice.

I wouldn't call my Democratic Sen. Duckworth a *****, with her life story, and I proudly voted for her.
Tammy continues to stand up for her Nation and Military on prosthetic legs earned in Combat.

Cadet bone spurs has cowardly hid from and behind the Military his entire life, while he mocks POWs as 'losers'.
How can any Military family condone the trump admin. shamelessly using our Soldiers as political pawns ?
 
Services where shutdown. This will cost extra money that could be better spent elsewhere.

What services that weren't already closed for the weekend? That was a savings, not more money spent.
 
You mean the Democrats that just got CHIP renewed for millions of children without giving up anything are corporate Democrats? Who knew?

A lot of people know. That's why Democrats have lost so much popularity. Yes, Democrats support some good things. They also shield Wall Street and Big Pharma. Of course, they are starting to get better rhetorically on some of those issues, but I think that is mainly because of Bernie.
 
This morning I'm on a line at a store, the woman in front of me short tempered, buying an item for 99¢, tells the cashier to keep the penny and give her the receipt so she can leave. I enter another store, with another line, the same woman is buying an item for 79¢. She tells the cashier, to be sure to give her the penny with her receipt. There is a psychological term for this behavior. It is called being an asshole.
 
Spouting rhetoric that you can't deny.
mcconnell's evasive promises mean nothing to the GOP House of NO, and mitch knows it.
Today we hear GOP House members mocking the Senate, saying No Deal on DACA, ever.
But .... Schumer or whoever the DEM leader is needs to go ...

For you, one last time let me repeat what I said in around 5 posts already this morning that you seem to be ignoring this fine windy, beautiful Georgia morning. I said both Schumer and McConnell need to go. When Reid was in the senate as majority leader, I said back then both Reid and McConnell need to go. All three in my humble opinion put the good of their political party way ahead of the good of the nation. It is loyalty to political party and not to country.

If you can't understand that, feel free to continue with your rhetoric about Schumer needing to go while totally ignoring all the rest.
 
Mostly wondering how the left feels about this.

I think he should but it has less to do with the shutdown and more to do with the leadership of the party being very old in general. They represent Democratic Party views of 20-30 years ago. Time for the party to update itself
 
HELL NO. He outmaneuvered McConnell. He had Claire McCaskle ask for unanimous consent for her bill to fund the military. McConnell objected. Then Bill Nelson asked unanimous consent for his bill to fund the government for 24 hours. McConnell objected. And then John Tester asked for unanimous consent to fund the government through Monday. McConnell objected.

They persisted. He resisted. He was the one who shut down the government.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Can't get over the fact that Trump won in 2016. Can't get over the fact that Gorsuch is on the Supreme Court. Can't get over the fact that Republicans passed the tax plan, etc. and now you can't get over the fact that Trump and the Republicans won this time around. But, you guys are being far too critical of your side. This was just a less than 3 week deal to keep the government up and running until Feb 8th. The honus is on Republicans to come up with a DACA deal by then because the Democrats are not going to cave on Feb 8th and the public will fully blame Republicans if the government gets shut down at that time. Immigrants were NOT thrown under the bus.
 
GOP deception to split DEMs is one of their Nixonian cards.

DEMs got CHIP funding, though not the clean 10-year reup clear of GOP accounting tricks.
The GOP House continues to not even take up passed immigration legislation from the more adult chamber.
DEMs got a promise on an immigration reform bill from McConnell on this 4th gop CR in 4 months, which is the Real hurt on our Military.

McConnell shot down funding of the troops Friday night, as per Sen. McCaskill's amendment.
McConnell shot down a 1-day extension as per Sen. Nelson's amendment.
And then McConnell shot down a 3-day extension from Sen. Tester, which is exactly what we got today, with the promise though.
Lawrence laid it out beautifully.

Now, every gop member must run on McConnellism and for now, trump's viie 'willie horton' ad ...

Uber driver accused of rape pleads not guilty in San Luis Obispo court - KEYT
 
Yes, but not for the reasons the Right wants.

1.) Schumer should go because we need someone at the negotiating table who's as hardheaded and obstinate as Republican leadership is. If Republicans want to hold CHIP hostage to screw over DREAMers and **** Americans further with their odious give-aways to the rich, you don't quietly argue with them behind closed doors. You go immediately to the American public and tell them that the Republicans are threatening to defund children's health care in order to leverage more tax give-aways for the rich. Republicans already hate Democrats, it's time to give them a better reason to.

2.) The Democratic Old Guard is toxic, and they all need to be removed from power. From Nancy Pelosi to Chuck Schumer to even the newly minted Old Guard, Tom Perez --they all need to go.

I was asking for the left's opinions, not the right's.
 
Bernie isn't a Dem. Warren has another agenda. Schumer has proven he has the skills needed after this shutdown with McCaskle, Nelson and Tester's unanimous consent bills on Friday night.. He got McConnell by his cohones Friday night. If Mitch doesn't allow a vote, he's a goner. Cronyn is laying in wait.

Yep. Schumer gets a lot more credit than he deserves. He not only kept the government open but if the government shuts down on Feb 8th, Republicans will get all the blame.
 
Sounds like sour grapes to me. Can't get over the fact that Trump won in 2016. Can't get over the fact that Gorsuch is on the Supreme Court. Can't get over the fact that Republicans passed the tax plan, etc. and now you can't get over the fact that Trump and the Republicans won this time around. But, you guys are being far too critical of your side. This was just a less than 3 week deal to keep the government up and running until Feb 8th. The honus is on Republicans to come up with a DACA deal by then because the Democrats are not going to cave on Feb 8th and the public will fully blame Republicans if the government gets shut down at that time. Immigrants were NOT thrown under the bus.

McConnell called for the vote knowing full well he didn't have enough of his own party on board. It was his and 45's shutdown.

45 is POTUS. I accept that fact and the other stuff you regurgitated. Now, run along.
 
Some progressives lost their minds today because the minority party recognized that they were in a bad position and folded on one CR that won't even last three weeks. Sheesh, you don't go all-in when you're holding a pair of deuces and it's pretty clear that your opponent has a full house.

Exactly! Schumer actually has Trump and the Republicans backed into a corner now. If there is a government shutdown on Feb 8th, Republicans will get all the blame.
 
I voted no. Chuck and Nancy are hilarious.

Nancy in particular is. It was just a few weeks ago the left and the MSM were getting on Trump for slurring some words one day but I have seen over the last couple of years that Nancy just can't speak anymore at all without being forgetful and slurring her words. I seriously believe she has dementia or Alzheimers or light strokes or something and I'm not saying that to be partisan. I'm serious.
 
Senate Democrats as well as Senate Republicans choose their leaders. I am curious as to what your question regarding this is all about?

Not sure what you mean. I don't think anyone else has had any trouble understanding.
 
Uh...really? You're honestly pondering how the LEFT will feel?

Let me predict the poll outcome. All of right will vote "yes" and all of the left will vote "no".

I'm ditto'ing post #8. Every single elected official in the Kingdom of Washington needs to be booted, rinse and repeat a few times...and any staffer that's worked at the Capitol for more than a year.

If you bothered to read my post I kind of strongly suggested that I was curious how the left felt about Schumer.
 
These gop rightists have dragged out their term-limit card in midterms since 1994, as we saw in 2010, 2014, and now 2018.
It's what they know how to do as the minority party and what they're trying to do as the ruling party.
As mcconnelism said in 2014 on Garland, let the people decide with their votes in 2018 ...

The people have been deciding with their votes for the last seven years, with Democrats losing over 1000 seats.
 
Agreed. They simply do not understand the concept of political capital. Which, when you don't control any branch of government, you have very little of. But we do have the filibuster, and since the Republicans threw us a lifeline by spending their reconciliation card on tax reform, we will have plenty of opportunities to stop bad legislation this calendar year.

It should be more about compromise than any one side holding the other side hostage and threatening to shut down the government to get their way. They are all a bunch of two year olds throwing temper tantrums until the other side folds, and I'm talking about BOTH sides.
 
Mostly wondering how the left feels about this.

I was thinking about this over my first cup of coffee. Schumer did exactly what his party wanted in regards to immigration. It was a colossal miscalculation. The Republicans have been running scared from shutdowns for years. Of course Schumer used the situation to try to get something. Why wouldn't he? The Republicans have been gutless when it comes to shutdowns. It just backfired this time, at the worst time possible for Democrats. I am pleasantly surprised the Republicans found a backbone, finally.
 
Some progressives lost their minds today because the minority party recognized that they were in a bad position and folded on one CR that won't even last three weeks. Sheesh, you don't go all-in when you're holding a pair of deuces and it's pretty clear that your opponent has a full house.

My hunch is that Schumer was able to get the votes from his team to bring on the shutdown but then it was reported that several Dems who are up for re-election in the Senate in red states were very concerned over how this shutdown would play out for them at home. They have 7 or 8 vulnerable seats.
 
I was thinking about this over my first cup of coffee. Schumer did exactly what his party wanted in regards to immigration. It was a colossal miscalculation. The Republicans have been running scared from shutdowns for years. Of course Schumer used the situation to try to get something. Why wouldn't he? The Republicans have been gutless when it comes to shutdowns. It just backfired this time, at the worst time possible for Democrats. I am pleasantly surprised the Republicans found a backbone, finally.

From Game of Thrones to Game of Chicken.

Too bad people don't die in congress for their miscalculations of political gamesmanship.
 
Uh...really? You're honestly pondering how the LEFT will feel?

Let me predict the poll outcome. All of right will vote "yes" and all of the left will vote "no".

I'm ditto'ing post #8. Every single elected official in the Kingdom of Washington needs to be booted, rinse and repeat a few times...and any staffer that's worked at the Capitol for more than a year.

Your prediction is wrong. Do you think about how the right feels? If you do then your post is just snark just for snark (my pick). If you don't then you can't be as smart as you think you are. Either way, it's a stupid question.
 
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