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When LBJ said President B. Lyndon Johnson once said, "I'll have those n....rs voting Democratic for

Were you Offended at this also?

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Marco Montana

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When LBJ said President B. Lyndon Johnson once said, "I'll have those n....rs voting Democratic for

Were you Outraged when President B. Lyndon Johnson once said, "I'll have those n....rs voting Democratic for 200 years." ?

Was that the same as Trump ( Possibly ) saying Haiti is a ****hole?
 
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Other - before my time

I will say I would find any president using that particular perjorative especially to be offensive.
 
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Marco Montana said:
Were you Outraged when President B. Lyndon Johnson once said, "I'll have those n....rs voting Democratic for 200 years." ?

Was that the same as Trump ( Possibly ) saying Haiti is a ****hole?
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yes - when LBJ said that, it was offensive also.

and yes, what you are doing in digging up something from a half century ago is offensive as it attempts to give cover to Trump for his racist comments.
 
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X Factor said:
Other - before my time

I will say I would find any president using that particular perjorative especially to be offensive.
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X is correct.

Hateful language is problematic in a civilized country that values freedom, equality, and brotherhood.

Any elected official that uses that racial slur, no matter the degree of earnestness, needs to check himself or herself.

But, that was back in the 1960's.

You know how many times I've heard baby boomers use that word off-handedly?
 
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haymarket said:
yes - when LBJ said that, it was offensive also.

and yes, what you are doing in digging up something from a half century ago is offensive as it attempts to give cover to Trump for his racist comments.
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"Two wrongs make a right"-modern conservative axiom.
 
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What if...? said:
"Two wrongs make a right"-modern conservative axiom.
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apparently so - and just as wrong as ever.
 
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I wasnt even born at that time. Not even existing as a sperm.
 
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Marco Montana said:
Were you Outraged when President B. Lyndon Johnson once said, "I'll have those n....rs voting Democratic for 200 years." ?

Was that the same as Trump ( Possibly ) saying Haiti is a ****hole?
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Where is the evidence that LBJ actually said that?
Trump is documented saying what he said.
 
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MTAtech said:
Where is the evidence that LBJ actually said that?
Trump is documented saying what he said.
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Even if he said it, he was of his time, operating within the norms of that time. In theory we know better now, so it's disingenuous to judge a person back then by todays standards, moreso when it's done to excuse a man of our time who should know better.
 
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https://www.snopes.com/lbj-voting-democratic/

it was coarse then when LBJ said it
it is coarse now when tRump says it
but this quote illustrates that LBJ knew what he was going to give up as the cost of supporting civil rights legislation:
“I think we just delivered the South to the Republican party for a long time to come”
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appears he knew which party was the party of racists
 
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It is reported that he held meetings while on the porcelain convenience, to further humble whomever he was talking to. (LBJ)
 
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Other, since you asked in the past tense, because I wasn't born there, so could not be offended at the offensive comment. Do try to phrase your polls better...I know the whataboutery was the main thing, but a little thought goes a long way.
 
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MTAtech said:
Where is the evidence that LBJ actually said that?
Trump is documented saying what he said.
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Actually there isn't. Nobody has verified that Trump said that. Dick Durbin is likely lying.
 
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The fact LBJ crafted/pushed modern civil rights legislation make it somewhat more disturbing.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Even if he said it, he was of his time, operating within the norms of that time. In theory we know better now, so it's disingenuous to judge a person back then by todays standards, moreso when it's done to excuse a man of our time who should know better.
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No it wasn't. Lyndon was a notorious racist and vulgarian. lol u and the apologists for the blatantly racist language of the Democrats.
 
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haymarket said:
yes - when LBJ said that, it was offensive also.

and yes, what you are doing in digging up something from a half century ago is offensive as it attempts to give cover to Trump for his racist comments.
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Calling Haiti or Libya or Nigeria a ****hole isn't racist. It's a condemnation of the factors that hold the people of those nations back from economic and social progress.

Haiti isn't a ****hole because the majority of the residents are black. It's a ****hole because the government is so damned corrupt that it can't figure out how to equitably distribute aid to the residents after an earthquake. It's a ****hole because the government is so corrupt that the building codes created a situation where most of the structures collapsed during the earthquake killing thousands. It's a ****hole because the government is so corrupt that violent crime rate makes it safer to be in Afghanistan than in Haiti.

Let's talk about Nigeria. Have you ever heard the one about the guy who got an email that he won the Nigerian lottery? The corruption there is rampant. Sure, residents can get a great education but after that they can't get a job. Nothing like having a Masters in chemical engineering and the best job you can get is as a cab driver. Look at this report - https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=21604 - there's something about
U.S. citizens, Nigerians, and expatriates have experienced harassment and shakedowns at vehicle checkpoints and during other encounters with officials, particularly the military and vigilante groups. Always slow down and politely acknowledge police or military at checkpoints. Police and military are authorized to shoot if you fail to stop at checkpoint.
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that screams "****hole".

Look, I know you guys like to throw the racism thing around. It's a great argument for you because if the target denies it then he's probably a racist for doing so and if he admits it then, obviously, he confirms your accusation. On top of that you can change the definition of "racist" to fit whatever agenda you have so the charge can never really be denied. Great, you found a winner. Everyone you disagree with can be safely labeled a racist and you can't be contradicted. The only problem is that the continued use of this tactic really dilutes the term and detracts from actual instances of racism. You, however, have no need to care about that because the goal was political all along and you're achieving that with your methods. Congratulations.
 
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I'm pretty sure LBJ was banned from Twitter for that one.
 
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What is the point of this thread?
 
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Marco Montana said:
Were you Outraged when President B. Lyndon Johnson once said, "I'll have those n....rs voting Democratic for 200 years." ?

Was that the same as Trump ( Possibly ) saying Haiti is a ****hole?
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No and no. Do sh!tholes freeze on cold days in New Hampshire?

https://www.snopes.com/lbj-voting-democratic/
 
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Lutherf said:
Calling Haiti or Libya or Nigeria a ****hole isn't racist.
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In the context of the usage by Trump invoking Norway as a comparison - YES - it most certainly was racist.

The right wing hates it when the obvious is pointed out to them because they know racism is a big part of right wing beliefs and politics.
 
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MSgt said:
What is the point of this thread?
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To offer an excuse for right wingers why Trumps racist comments are okay to defend.
 
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Marco Montana said:
Were you Outraged when President B. Lyndon Johnson once said, "I'll have those n....rs voting Democratic for 200 years." ?

Was that the same as Trump ( Possibly ) saying Haiti is a ****hole?
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Yes. LBJ was initially more sympathetic to racist southern Democrats like Strom Thurmond. It was JFK a northern Democrat who initially tried to move the Democratic party forward on civil rights. LBJ largely opposed much of it but came around to it after Kennedy brought him along as vice president to unite the party. It was Kennedy's assasination, and LBJ's desire to carry on his legacy that largely moved him to pass the civil rights bill, but even as he did he was concerned that he would lose southern white voters for a generation.

So yeah, LBJ like many white men of that time period was very racist. Thankfully the Democratic party, unlike the Republican party has progressed significantly in that area. The Republican party(which Strom Thurmond and most southern Democrats flipped to) meanwhile has embraced the Southern Strategty of Richard Nixon. Actively recruting racist white southerners to their ticket knowing full well that their hatred of black people will motivate them to vote for economic policies that are actually destroying their own lives.
 
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Rexedgar said:
It is reported that he held meetings while on the porcelain convenience, to further humble whomever he was talking to. (LBJ)
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There is also a recorded phone call of LBJ ordering slacks where he talks about his "bunghole".
 
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haymarket said:
yes - when LBJ said that, it was offensive also.

and yes, what you are doing in digging up something from a half century ago is offensive as it attempts to give cover to Trump for his racist comments.
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Do you think North Korea is a ****hole country (I do)

Do you think South Korea is ****hole country (I don't, it's one of the healthiest economies in the world)

Are North and South Koreans of the same race?

If they are then how can expressing these truths make me a "racist"

Is the truth "racist?"
 
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