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    Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    This is true but doing better means that the low wage jobs of their parents go unfilled unless you let in the next wave of immigrants in to fill them.


    Meanwhile, we pay 15% of the population "safety net" subsidies to avoid requiring them to work to support themselves and their dependents.
    Does that percent include children, the disabled, and the elderly?

    While there are some negative effects of immigration (depressing wages in certain industries, for instance) the positives far outweigh the negatives.


    Immigration brings entrepreneurs who start new businesses that hire American workers.
    Immigration brings young workers who help offset the large-scale retirement of baby boomers.
    Immigration brings diverse skill sets that keep our workforce flexible, help companies grow, and increase the productivity of American workers.
    Immigrants are far more likely to work in innovative, job-creating fields such as science, technology, engineering, and math that create life-improving products and drive economic growth.

    An Open Letter from 1,470 Economists on Immigration - New American Economy


    Immigrants have always been one of the biggest targets for what goes wrong in society, but when we look back on it in hindsight we realize how wrong that notion was.
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    Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That dream is spread thin. It's hard to achieve for actual citizens much less the people I described.

    Not only that but where I live there's just too many damn people period. We've gone over-capacity.
    We are ranked #179 in the world when it comes to population density. We are nowhere close to 'over-capacity.'
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    Re: Trump's "****hole" comment it offensive because...

    Quote Originally Posted by Waddy View Post
    Ireland during the potato famine was indeed a ****hole. That's why there are more Irish in the USA than back in Ireland.
    So are you saying we should not have let the Irish into this country? Are you saying the Irish are a detriment to American society?
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    Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    We are ranked #179 in the world when it comes to population density. We are nowhere close to 'over-capacity.'
    I'm fairly sure that the paradise over the seas for prospective illegals are those lands first colonized by the British & there is little wonder why.
    Let them intrude into the countries of Australia or Canadia which have the approximately same land mass of the USA with 1/10th the population
    much more under capacity than we!


    I'd include New Zealand but they restrict. Why does the USA have to be the patsy compared to other desirable destinations we have 10X
    the population the USA have done it's share of accommodation now it's time for others to take up the load.

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    Bottom line: we can debate the merits of poorer societies til the cows come home. The main point here is that, if the reports are accurate, Trump was being his often dickish self. No different than Mexican rapists, Fiorina’s looks, et al. Doesn’t mean he can’t be a good president, just that he is an apparently irredeemable jerk. He could redeem himself a bit with an apology here or there, but won’t. There would be an earthquake in Trump Tower if he apologized for his role in the Central Park Five.

    Two words explain all you need to know about him: Trump University.

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    Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

    Quote Originally Posted by slick View Post
    I'm fairly sure that the paradise over the seas for prospective illegals are those lands first colonized by the British & there is little wonder why.
    Let them intrude into the countries of Australia or Canadia which have the approximately same land mass of the USA with 1/10th the population
    much more under capacity than we!
    Nothing you've said disputed the point I was making to WCH: We are nowhere close to over-capacity.

    With that said, just because I am critical of some American views on immigration does not mean I am not critical of other countries. Some of Australia's policies are certainly well-deserving of criticism.

    Not really sure why you bring up Canada. 1/5 of Canada's population is foreign born. Canada has one of the highest ratios of new immigrants in the world. It is not Canada's fault more people choose the United States (though I am sure that is beginning to shift).


    Why does the USA have to be the patsy compared to other desirable destinations we have 10X
    the population the USA have done it's share of accommodation now it's time for others to take up the load.
    Well, unlike you I do not see bringing in immigrants as a 'burden.' I see it as a great benefit. While the xenophobes have always existed they have been proven wrong throughout US history.
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    Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Nothing you've said disputed the point I was making to WCH: We are nowhere close to over-capacity.

    With that said, just because I am critical of some American views on immigration does not mean I am not critical of other countries. Some of Australia's policies are certainly well-deserving of criticism.

    Not really sure why you bring up Canada. 1/5 of Canada's population is foreign born. Canada has one of the highest ratios of new immigrants in the world. It is not Canada's fault more people choose the United States (though I am sure that is beginning to shift).




    Well, unlike you I do not see bringing in immigrants as a 'burden.' I see it as a great benefit. While the xenophobes have always existed they have been proven wrong throughout US history.
    If you really feel that way you're swimming upstream.
    Apparently you'd love to advance the concept of the ideal nation egalitarian, diverse & liberated!
    Unalterable human nature is the eternal enemy of utopian love affair with diversity.
    Refusing to accept what human experience teaches is the mark of a liberal utopian ideologue.

    California is proving the author of this quote a prophet:
    "Pity the nation divided into fragments, each fragment deeming itself a nation' gibran 1934

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    So are you saying we should not have let the Irish into this country? Are you saying the Irish are a detriment to American society?
    There actually was a lot of opposition to the Irish immigrants from working class Americans who worried about cheap Irish labor. But that was a time in our history when most work was unskilled and everything was done manually. So the country needed lots and lots of unskilled workers to build railroads, canals, and work in factories and slaughter houses. Henry Ford figured out how to take advantage of this unskilled labor force by instituting the assembly line; where each unskilled worker only did one little job so much training wasn't necessary nor need they be skilled at anything. Those days are gone. We have lots and lots of homegrown unskilled labor; what we need are skilled technicians. There are millions of job openings right now for skilled workers in manufacturing, which is very automated, diesel mechanics, and lots of other trades. It took generations for the Irish to become middle class citizens and an asset to their communities. Early on they lived in Irish neighborhoods and because we had almost no social services or welfare, they were self-sustaining from the start. Today's immigrants move immediately to social services and the welfare state. In that regard they then become a drain on the taxpayer and overburden our schools. And many of them have no concept of American ideals or what it means to be a citizen here. Unfortunately, we have enough of that type of person homegrown as well; we don't need any more.

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    Re: Trump's "****hole" comment it offensive because...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickyjo View Post
    Bottom line: we can debate the merits of poorer societies til the cows come home. The main point here is that, if the reports are accurate, Trump was being his often dickish self. No different than Mexican rapists, Fiorina’s looks, et al. Doesn’t mean he can’t be a good president, just that he is an apparently irredeemable jerk. He could redeem himself a bit with an apology here or there, but won’t. There would be an earthquake in Trump Tower if he apologized for his role in the Central Park Five.

    Two words explain all you need to know about him: Trump University.
    Because we all know Trump University is very useful and totally isn't a fraud.

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    Re: Trump's "sh**hole" comment it offensive because...

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    We are ranked #179 in the world when it comes to population density. We are nowhere close to 'over-capacity.'
    So you want to screw that up by allowing unfettered immigration/open borders?
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