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Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination? [W:388, 530]

Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

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Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

AGENT J said:
1.) WTH? The Supreme court is the fed :lamo
2.) Again as just shown to you the Fed are not running everything by any measure. Please try to learn about how the united states, my country, works before you make any further comments
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The Supreme Court is not the Federal government. It is it's own authority. And makes rulings on laws passed by Congress. Separation of powers, don't you know. And the SC rules on state cases without any participation from the federal government; often returning cases to the state level for redress. So it's possible to protect people's rights, at the state level, without ANY federal intervention.
 
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Elvira said:
Why don't you quote my whole comment.
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Because when you add this:

..it's not important in order to gain everlasting life, so stop being dishonest..
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Your opinions on knowledge actually sound even more ridiculous. But hey, suit yourself. You believe you will live forever, somewhere, at some point in existence and therefor it wasn't necessary for the bible to mention DNA. You are not somebody to whom legality, science or even nuance is relevant. Why should anyone expect you to see a difference between consensual relations, and non-consensual relations?
 
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Stopandthink said:
1) a growing number of scientists of that group consider it an orientation
2) The point above is proving I comprehend it better than you do
3) Thank you counselor, AT ONE TIME HOMOSEXUALITY WASNT EITHER
4.)Now go back to number one of this post and factually refute it so we can be done here. Thanks
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1.) let me know when the medical community changes it to an officially recognized orientation, when that happens id be especially curious to learn how people then must have two orientations and how that works. Then after that it still will have the other issues mentioned in the thread that you claimed to have read but arent discussing for some reason.
2.) :lamo actually its not its proving the exact opposite you dont because what you are yammering on about has no impact to anything i said or discussed. Thank you for AGAIN proving you didnt comprehend what has been posted here or the content of my discussion i was having.
3.) but currently it is :shrug: LMAO
4.) no need because its meaningless to anything being discussed unless it becomes official. Actually we've been done since post #43 when you jumped in and made meaningless and wrong claims that have no bearing.

When you have something that does matter and includes comprehensions the discussion that was being had please be sure to let me know! Thanks for playing!
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

Hatuey said:
Because when you add this:



Your opinions on knowledge actually sound even more ridiculous. But hey, suit yourself. You believe you will live forever, somewhere, at some point in existence. You are not somebody to whom legality, science or even nuance is relevant.
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The fact that you dragged another subject which has nothing to do with this one into this thread shows who is being ridiculous and it ain't me...lol...
 
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Elvira said:
The fact that you dragged another subject which has nothing to do with this one into this thread shows who is being ridiculous and it ain't me...lol...
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Report it if you want to :shrug: I am simply explaining your absurd position in this thread where you think consensual relations are the same as non-consensual. You see no value in legality, science or nuance. Wait, do you think you don't look ridiculous when you associate pedophilia and homosexuality? The chuckles here abound.
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

Hatuey said:
Report it if you want to :shrug: I am simply explaining your absurd position in this thread where you think consensual relations are the same as non-consensual. You see no value in legality, science or nuance.
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Now stop...just stop making yourself look silly...wait...too late...SMH...lol...
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

Waddy said:
1.) The Supreme Court is not the Federal government. It is it's own authority. And makes rulings on laws passed by Congress. Separation of powers, don't you know. And the SC rules on state cases without any participation from the federal government; often returning cases to the state level for redress.
2.) So it's possible to protect people's rights, at the state level, without ANY federal intervention.
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1.) AGain please learn about my country SCOTUS is a federal court, just stop LMAO stick to your own country or educated yourself about this topic first.

heres a basic scholar lingk for you that might help:
https://www.scholastic.com/teachers/articles/teaching-content/supreme-court-united-states/
The Supreme Court heads the judicial branch of the federal government. The judicial branch balances federal power, along with the legislative branch who writes the laws (Congress), and the executive branch (headed by the president). By making the judicial branch independent, the Founders protected the courts from being dominated by either Congress or the president.
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2.) thanks for another meaningless point but you keep dodging the question, what if a state did pass a law saying christians, blacks or women cant vote anymore, then what? what if the states court support that? you just want that to be the end of it? no thanks!!!! America is great because of these checks and balances and the fed protecting our rights along with the states and them balancing each other. If thats how it works in your country thats fine by me but i dont want such a retarded and government strong / no balance government in the USA
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

Elvira said:
Now stop...just stop making yourself look silly...wait...too late...SMH...lol...
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Hey, if you really think so - you are welcome to explain why a non-consensual relationship would be legalized now that a consensual relation doesn't mean a death sentence. Don't worry, the whole forum will wait for you to unveil the massive amounts of outright crazy opinions you keep to yourself on a regular basis.
 
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AGENT J said:
1.) let me know when the medical community changes it to an officially recognized orientation, when that happens id be especially curious to learn how people then must have two orientations and how that works. Then after that it still will have the other issues mentioned in the thread that you claimed to have read but arent discussing for some reason.
2.) :lamo actually its not its proving the exact opposite you dont because what you are yammering on about has no impact to anything i said or discussed. Thank you for AGAIN proving you didnt comprehend what has been posted here or the content of my discussion i was having.
3.) but currently it is :shrug: LMAO
4.) no need because its meaningless to anything being discussed unless it becomes official. Actually we've been done since post #43 when you jumped in and made meaningless and wrong claims that have no bearing.

When you have something that does matter and includes comprehensions the discussion that was being had please be sure to let me know! Thanks for playing!
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1) its looking like its heading that direction, I don't know why you can't admit that FACT
2) if it had no impact you wouldn't have felt compelled to claim Elvira's post was retarded (is was completely valid, and you're proving that now by not acknowledging facts)
3) but it wasn't before and it CHANGED based on medical studies
4) I like how if someone calls you out it's "not meaningful to the conversation". You started a thread on orientation, so don't blame me for trying to correct you

Now, again I'll simply ask you to refute the claim I made about a growing number of scientists recognizing pedophilia as an orientation.
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

Stopandthink said:
1) its looking like its heading that direction
2.) I don't know why you can't admit that FACT
3) if it had no impact you wouldn't have felt compelled to claim Elvira's post was retarded (is was completely valid, and you're proving that now by not acknowledging facts)
4) but it wasn't before and it CHANGED based on medical studies
4) I like how if someone calls you out it's "not meaningful to the conversation". You started a thread on orientation, so don't blame me for trying to correct you
5.) Now, again I'll simply ask you to refute the claim I made about a growing number of scientists recognizing pedophilia as an orientation.
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1.) if you say so, but until its official its not.
2.) what fact that YOU feel its heading in that direction? sure YOU feel its heading that way
3.) WHAT? thanks for that OPINION and lie but again thats all it is. Your feelings are noted but they are factually wrong LMAO
4.) correct, good thing nobody disputed that
5.) nice try but you didnt call anybody out you simply made false and meaningless claims that dont change what i have said or context in any way. If that fact bothers you, thats your issue to do with. I get it. You want me to care about your feelings and opinions i just simply dont and i was stating facts with a context of a discussion.
6.) ask me to refute it 50 times its not my job. YOU made the claim so YOU have to prove it to be true. Then youll have to address the other context here you are STILL ignoring. anyway to the discussion i was having its meaningless, today its not an orientation, when that fact changes please let me know.

Like i said When you have something that does matter and includes comprehension of the discussion that was being had post it!
Thanks for playing!
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Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

Elvira said:
Why don't you quote my whole comment...it's not important in order to gain everlasting life, so stop being dishonest...the moment knowledge about your DNA grants you that, please let us know...:roll:
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What the hell does everlasting life have to do with the need to protect gay people from discrimination?
 
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Phys251 said:
What the hell does everlasting life have to do with the need to protect gay people from discrimination?
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That was my point, too...ask Hatuey...he's the one who brought it up in this thread...:2razz:
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

DiAnna said:
I have no idea, but I'm fairly certain it will not happen under a GOP Administration and a GOP-led congress.

It should already be the law of the land, since anything otherwise is blatantly unconstitutional.
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But if there is a case that goes to the Supreme Court, challenging the bigoted states passing laws that alllow discrimination, and they rule it is unconstitutional, that would make discrimination against sexual orientation illegal.
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

AGENT J said:
1.) if you say so, but until its official its not.
2.) what fact that YOU feel its heading in that direction? sure YOU feel its heading that way
3.) WHAT? thanks for that OPINION and lie but again thats all it is. Your feelings are noted but they are factually wrong LMAO
4.) correct, good thing nobody disputed that
5.) nice try but you didnt call anybody out you simply made false and meaningless claims that dont change what i have said or context in any way. If that fact bothers you, thats your issue to do with. I get it. You want me to care about your feelings and opinions i just simply dont and i was stating facts with a context of a discussion.
6.) ask me to refute it 50 times its not my job. YOU made the claim so YOU have to prove it to be true. Then youll have to address the other context here you are STILL ignoring. anyway to the discussion i was having its meaningless, today its not an orientation, when that fact changes please let me know.

Like i said When you have something that does matter and includes comprehension of the discussion that was being had post it!
Thanks for playing!
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1) Yes it is a fact, I'll take "if you say so" as "you're right"
2) just read any current scientific news, a quick google search should do it for you, or I can attach a bunch of links if you want
3) go back and read your original response to Elvira, it was ignorant
4) yep
5) I didn't promote feelings one way or the other, I just want to correct false information
6) Pedophilia is definitely part of the orientation discussion now and will be even more so going forward, so don't blame me if it comes up in a thread that you started. In fact you pointed out a few concerns you had yourself if it would be officially recognized as an orientation, by doing so you've admitted its validity to the discussion.
I'm actually quite surprised that you are closed minded to it.
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

MrWonka said:
Not sure what delusional world you live in, but the number of Republicans who do not support equal rights radically outnumbers the few Republicans that might be okay with it. Extremists don't just exist in the Republican party they control it.
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That from someone who has 'stop bigotry' as an avatar. :lamo
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

Elvira said:
Is that not a sexual orientation? You open the door for one, you have to open it for all...
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Kids and animals can't give consent.

If you let kids have adult sexual rights you have to let them do all the other adult stuff like drink, enter into contracts, throw ten year Olds in grownup prison.

Its a really vapid argument.
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

Stopandthink said:
1) Yes it is a fact, I'll take "if you say so" as "you're right"
2) just read any current scientific news, a quick google search should do it for you, or I can attach a bunch of links if you want
3) go back and read your original response to Elvira, it was ignorant
4) yep
5) I didn't promote feelings one way or the other, I just want to correct false information
6) Pedophilia is definitely part of the orientation discussion now and will be even more so going forward, so don't blame me if it comes up in a thread that you started. In fact you pointed out a few concerns you had yourself if it would be officially recognized as an orientation, by doing so you've admitted its validity to the discussion.
I'm actually quite surprised that you are closed minded to it.
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1.) take it how ever you want you already proved you will just make things up LMAO so thats just par for the course
2.) so you are sharing how you came to your OPINION, thanks, still meaningless to my discussion
3.) it was factual but you are free to have any little feelings about it you want. it will still remain facual
4.) yea a meaningless point
5.) good thing none was said by me then so again your post fails
6.) so you cant factually prove it? nor address the actual content? got it! that what I thought! thanks for your opinion, feelings,lies and strawmen again but its still meaningless to what i said and content :)

Like i said When you have something that does matter and includes comprehension of the discussion that was being had post it! Thanks!
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Agent J; thanks for another meaningless point but you keep dodging the question, what if a state did pass a law saying christians, blacks or women cant vote anymore, then what?
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Then they take it to the Supreme Court. No need for any agency of the Federal government, or Congress, to get involved. No need for Congress or any federal agency to take over administering the law. Thne states and Supreme Court are perfectly capable and situated properly to insure justice.
 
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Waddy said:
1.) Then they take it to the Supreme Court.
2.) No need for any agency of the Federal government, or Congress, to get involved.
3.) No need for Congress or any federal agency to take over administering the law.
4.) Thne states and Supreme Court are perfectly capable and situated properly to insure justice.
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LAMO
1.) you have already been told the supreme court is the fed, again please educate yourself on how my country works
2.) see#1
3.) see #1
4.) see #1

let me know when you learn from this mistake and learn how the US works because you clearly dont get it.
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

AGENT J said:
1.) take it how ever you want you already proved you will just make things up LMAO so thats just par for the course
2.) so you are sharing how you came to your OPINION, thanks, still meaningless to my discussion
3.) it was factual but you are free to have any little feelings about it you want. it will still remain facual
4.) yea a meaningless point
5.) good thing none was said by me then so again your post fails
6.) so you cant factually prove it? nor address the actual content? got it! that what I thought! thanks for your opinion, feelings,lies and strawmen again but its still meaningless to what i said and content :)

Like i said When you have something that does matter and includes comprehension of the discussion that was being had post it! Thanks!
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1)I’ve asked repeatedly for you to show me how it’s not true, you haven’t done that yet, I’m still waiting
2)it’s pertinent to the discussion, you wanted to a theoretical discussion about orientation and discrimination, I gave you my answer
3)no it was ignorant
4)it’s a fact, not meaningless at all
5),6) just please show me where science is saying pedophilia has nothing to do with sexual orientation and your bigotry can be justified


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Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

DiAnna said:
I have no idea, but I'm fairly certain it will not happen under a GOP Administration and a GOP-led congress.

It should already be the law of the land, since anything otherwise is blatantly unconstitutional.
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I'm a transpecies and I the discrimination I face when I try to take my ewe out dining is truly frightening.

And then they even dare to put lamb on the menu.
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

Stopandthink said:
1)I’ve asked repeatedly for you to show me how it’s not true, you haven’t done that yet, I’m still waiting
2)it’s pertinent to the discussion, you wanted to a theoretical discussion about orientation and discrimination, I gave you my answer
3)no it was ignorant
4)it’s a fact, not meaningless at all
5),6) just please show me where science is saying pedophilia has nothing to do with sexual orientation and your bigotry can be justified


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1.) again you can ask 50 times YOU made the claim its YOUR job to prove it lol so youll be waiting a long time
2.) no its not nor did i ask for that, its what you want and it has no bearing :)
3.) again you can have snowflake feelings that it was but the fact remain it was accurate and factual. If facts bother you thats your issue to deal with
4.) grass being a plant is a fact, its meaningless to this discussion also
5/6.) by definition i have expressed no bigotry LMAO posting lies only makes your post fail harder and look more silly. Medical science has officially deemed its not a sexual orientation. when that fact changes let me know ;)

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Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

AGENT J said:
Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

0-2 years
3- 5 years
6-10 years
11-15 years
15+ years
Never


With equal rights winning all over the place the last decade or so and marriage protections winning I dont think it will be too long. My guess is 3-5 years. Definitely in my lifetime. Some states and counties are even desperate passing and trying to pass ant-equality bills lol

I actually hope more and more attempts to pass anti-equality laws happen and also pass because its the very thing that helps and speeds up the process. Just like with gay marriage it gave people something to challenge and fight against. They weren't smart enough to realize it but making all those laws against equal marriage is exactly what helped it fall.

So far 22 states have equal protection for sexual orientation, another 11 have it for the public workplace. No bad but we need more and soon!


Oh yeah, there are also many counties and cities that protect sexual orientation within the states that dont. and 485 of the fortune 500 companies also protect sexual orientation equality.

https://www.hrc.org/state-maps/employment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...offering_an_LGBT_non-discrimination_ordinance
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I voted 0-2 because I think that for the vast majority of people, homosexuality is just a fact of life.
To deny that is frankly stupid, and to disallow homosexuals from certain aspects of our culture is...silly and mean.
I also think that 'most' people who claim some sort of religious fit over the existence of homosexuality, needs to question his or her religion.

Alas...the US constitution happens to be at odds with these obvious facts of life, and should be addressed in order to remove the obstruction of religion.

Wouldn't you say?
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

AGENT J said:
1.) again you can ask 50 times YOU made the claim its YOUR job to prove it lol so youll be waiting a long time
2.) no its not nor did i ask for that, its what you want and it has no bearing :)
3.) again you can have snowflake feelings that it was but the fact remain it was accurate and factual. If facts bother you thats your issue to deal with
4.) grass being a plant is a fact, its meaningless to this discussion also
5/6.) by definition i have expressed no bigotry LMAO posting lies only makes your post fail harder and look more silly. Medical science has officially deemed its not a sexual orientation. when that fact changes let me know ;)

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Ya might wanna do some research on that...:2razz:
 
Re: Sexual Orientation, how long before its nationally protected from discrimination?

Elvira said:
Ya might wanna do some research on that...
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No need right now according to the APA it is not a sexual orientation in the sense of hetero and homosexuality. Thanks!:2razz:
 
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