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Welfare Purchases need to be changed

Should Welfare be changed to only purchase Nutritional Foods?

  • YES

    Votes: 15 44.1%

  • NO

    Votes: 13 38.2%

  • OTHER

    Votes: 6 17.6%
  • Total voters
    34
  • Poll closed .
lefty louie said:
I'm almost happy when I'm at the farmers market and someone pays with food stamps/WIC, burns me to know end when I see them buying slim jims at the grocery store.
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It doesn’t burn you nearly as much as those that digest and pass those Slim Jims!
 
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Rexedgar said:
It doesn’t burn you nearly as much as those that digest and pass those Slim Jims!
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But those that are doing the buying are also doing the passing, so it's one in the same.
 
Marco Montana said:
I submit to you, people on welfare / EBT / Snap / WIC / Food Stamps need to purchase meats, fruits, dailry, vegetables, breads....


Not cases of mountain dew, boxes of donuts, twinkies, gallons of ice cream, cigarettes, beer, scratch tickets!!!! Then they get Diabetes and we have to pay more for them!
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You can't buy cigarettes, beer and scratch tickets with food stamps.
 
Marco Montana said:
I submit to you, people on welfare / EBT / Snap / WIC / Food Stamps need to purchase meats, fruits, dailry, vegetables, breads....


Not cases of mountain dew, boxes of donuts, twinkies, gallons of ice cream, cigarettes, beer, scratch tickets!!!! Then they get Diabetes and we have to pay more for them!
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Would that conservatives who worry about wasteful donut purchases by poor folks could start worrying about wasteful military spending benefiting the middle and upper classes. Then we could have a real movement for change.
 
Marco Montana said:
I submit to you, people on welfare / EBT / Snap / WIC / Food Stamps need to purchase meats, fruits, dailry, vegetables, breads....


Not cases of mountain dew, boxes of donuts, twinkies, gallons of ice cream, cigarettes, beer, scratch tickets!!!! Then they get Diabetes and we have to pay more for them!
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Thank you for your input, Comrade.

I think I'll join a Russian online debate forum and make my username Boris McVodka.
 
Marco Montana said:
I don't care who you support if YOU"RE paying for your food! Thats my entire point, people on Welfare should be buying products that will cause further problems.
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I agree with that, but I think you must be under some misconception that its just liberals on SNAP. Most people I know that are on it are poor religious right types.
 
Nickyjo said:
Would that conservatives who worry about wasteful donut purchases by poor folks could start worrying about wasteful military spending benefiting the middle and upper classes. Then we could have a real movement for change.
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This would be called deflection! However I do watch wasteful spending in all scopes of Government thats what makes me a Conservative!
 
No. This goes to some wider thoughts about UBI but I'm generally against strict conditions on how people spend their time/money.

Go out and find experimental studies that show how given two populations, one a control group, and one a group where the experimental variable is cash without conditions, that the one given money ends up worse off. Also, good luck with that. Because I’ve been looking for years now, and all I keep finding are study after study of people ending up better off.

One of the biggest problems with government, and believe me, I recognize its many problems, is that it’s full of people who think they know what’s best for other people. But the thing is, it’s that way because that’s how we are. We vote for people who think they know what’s best for people because we think we know what’s best for people. It’s our problem. And it’s a big problem. Why?

Because that’s how places get to be what Americans think of when they think of the Soviet Union. Don’t trust people by giving them money and letting them spend it as consumers in markets. Give them food. Don’t let them choose what kind of food. They don’t know what’s best. Give them approved food as determined by a board of health specialists. Give them housing. Don’t let them choose their housing. Build public housing that’s best for them. Give them this. Give them that. Just don’t give them money, because money enables too much freedom. Money can be spent on anything. And don’t give money unconditionally, because money without conditions means lack of control. Money with conditions means people must do what we want them to do. No having kids out of wedlock. Two kids maximum. Fill out 10 job applications per day. No refusing a job no matter what it is or what it pays. Work eight hours a day. Go to school. Retrain. Do what we say, or else. That’s control. Conditions are control. Lack of conditions is freedom.
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From: https://medium.com/basic-income/if-...ee-money-or-socialism-think-again-4a17e8d15b1
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
I agree with that, but I think you must be under some misconception that its just liberals on SNAP. Most people I know that are on it are poor religious right types.
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I never said everyone was a Bernie Supporter I was being facetious. I have scumbag friends I no longer talk with that showed up at my door asking if I'd buy their EBT card for 50% its worth, I have another friend that sued his company for a back injury and then went on disability but works under the table in construction!


So yeah, I see a lot of scumbags
 
Marco Montana said:
I never said everyone was a Bernie Supporter I was being facetious. I have scumbag friends I no longer talk with that showed up at my door asking if I'd buy their EBT card for 50% its worth, I have another friend that sued his company for a back injury and then went on disability but works under the table in construction!


So yeah, I see a lot of scumbags
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We are swamped with them I tell YA.

AMERICA CRASHING

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Marco Montana said:
I never said everyone was a Bernie Supporter I was being facetious. I have scumbag friends I no longer talk with that showed up at my door asking if I'd buy their EBT card for 50% its worth, I have another friend that sued his company for a back injury and then went on disability but works under the table in construction!


So yeah, I see a lot of scumbags
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I would not give your friend with the EBT card more than 30 cents on the dollar for it. That is the going rate.
 
Marco Montana said:
I submit to you, people on welfare / EBT / Snap / WIC / Food Stamps need to purchase meats, fruits, dailry, vegetables, breads....


Not cases of mountain dew, boxes of donuts, twinkies, gallons of ice cream, cigarettes, beer, scratch tickets!!!! Then they get Diabetes and we have to pay more for them!
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I his is disingenuous, you can not buy cigarettes, beer, or scratch offs.

And the thing to consider is the other side of the subsidies go to farmers (who get far, far more) are part of the same program. That is why snap is part of the farm bill.

Iive In farm country and I see corporate farms ( many foreign owned) with brand new equipment at least every other year. This is our tax dollars at work, and people complain about people eating what everyone else eats...
 
On a personal note, I do not want to have to.stand in line behind someone trying to sort out with the cashier what they can and cannot buy.
 
americanwoman said:
I think that's pretty rare. I was on WIC and I knew a lot of people on WIC and I've never seen that kind of abuse. They actually make the checks with your name on it and a lot of places ask for ID and you still have to buy the specific kinds of food of the checks.

Now SNAP/EBT, that one does need to be revamped. A debit card that anyone can use with a pin and buy pretty much whatever food, what could go wrong?
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I see your point but it needs to be that way. Many people have others do their food shopping for them.
 
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