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What can Trump do to change your mind on him?

What can Trump do to change your mind?

  • Resign as President

    Votes: 24 58.5%
  • Cure Cancer

    Votes: 2 4.9%
  • Bring World Peace

    Votes: 2 4.9%
  • Nothing I hate him!

    Votes: 4 9.8%
  • Complete all his campaign promises

    Votes: 6 14.6%
  • Send everyone $10,000 cash tax free

    Votes: 2 4.9%
  • Join the EU and get rid of the Constitution

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Ban Guns!

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    41
  • Poll closed .
You are asking why does it matter that you have someone with the level of thinking of a delinquent 5th grader in office with his finger on the nuclear button? (To N. Korea:"My nuclear button is bigger than yours!")

I guess this is a democracy, and people get what they want, and deserve.

With respect I here this statement all the time its just dumb! You think he has a clear box on his desk like the batphone with a big red that was easy button under it? I mean come on!!!!!!!!!!


Educate yourself!

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-nuclear-weapon-launch/
 
So why don't you ask him what he was talking about bragging about that big button of his on his desk, which, he tells us, works better than Kim Jung Un's?

I think it was immature gibberish just like you. However we have tried articulate discussion with his dad for 60 years and nothing helped. Maybe Trump acting like him will work?
 
I think it was immature gibberish just like you.

Are you denying that he has the power to initiate a nuclear strike?

And what got him elected by all his deplorable followers, other than all this immature gibberish as actual campaign promises? From Obama's Kenyan birth certificate that only he knows about, to the size of his hands and other body parts: that's what the people wanted. And now they have it. Now we have immature gibberish about thermonuclear warfare and genocide. And now he can actually do it. Have fun with that. Like I said: this is a democracy, and in a democracy, people get what they want, and deserve.
 
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First, a point of courtesy. If you would please when you quote me use the full quote so people have the full context. Feel free to use the highlight or bold functions to point some part of the quote out, but it would be much appreciated to use the full quote. Thanks much in advance.

Well, I certainly apologize if you think I was seeking to alter your context. I would never omit part of a post just to do that because its dishonest and it shows a lack of integrity. I went back and checked to make sure I didn't do you a disservice. But the rest of what you wrote just reinforced what I brought forward so there was no point. It was more filler. The integrity of your context is here so I don't understand what you are getting at. But I will avoid this by simply keeping your posts intact.

(1) Personally, I am surprised that he governs more conservatively than a conservative. (B) I get it he is not your cup of tea, but from my view, he is doing just fine. (&) As for new taxes next year on the middle class, I presume you are being facetious. (4) The Republicans would be committing suicide if they even thought of it.

This, for example, is new context and each sentence holds its own topic of value...

(1) A traditional Conservative is social and fiscal. The constituent base has boasted Christian ethics, family values, and moral superiority for decades. The base has also concerned itself vocally with size of government and debt. Trump is neither a social conservative nor a fiscal conservative and the Conservative base betrayed everything it supposedly believed in so that they could enthusiastically cheer for an anti-thesis in the wake of years of hate-fueled Fox News propaganda under Obama. We are talking about a Conservative base that held Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, and Bill Clinton accountable for their sexual misconduct. The GOP actually begged the constituency not to vote for Trump in the Primaries. So I don't understand where you see that he is more conservative than a "conservative."

(B) Based on the reality of his conduct, policies (or lack of), and internationally uncooperative image, I don't see where you base "fine" on. He is shooting from the hip, uses roll-back tactics to please those who hate Obama, and when in doubt he pops out an arbitrary Tweet to his fan club. He really has no positive agenda.

(&) It seems common sense to me. Adding almost $2 trillion to the national credit card means new taxes to compensate. Making the tax cuts for the wealthy permanent, while the tax-cut for the Middle Class expire, means new taxes upon the Middle Class to compensate well before then. And Paul Ryan has already announced that the GOP is attacking welfare, Medicaid, and Medicare next year. Does reform mean stripping services, increasing premiums, or levying new taxes to compensate? Historically, an increase in premiums move people to drop coverage, which increases premiums of those still looking to be insured. And do we think that only Liberals are on welfare, medicaid, and medicare?

(4) The Republicans have already committed suicide through Trump's poor behavior, his weaker-than Obama's bad Foreign Policy, The GOP and Trump's divisive Roy Moore game, and with this Tax-Cut Bill that is absolutely about the political and economic "elite" that Republicans claimed to be sick of in their Primaries. The GOP will not get the swing votes that Clinton gave them last year unless the GOP dumps Trump (Ulysses S. Grant style)...or Trump grows up and becomes the proper statesman and diplomat that the country deserves (And I mean despite the behavior of the constituent mob that saw a false god last year).
 
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Wow, may I ask on what principle? The grab her P@@#y comment? Unproven Russian Collusion? Just because?

He wasn't supposed to win so they just want to nullify the elections.
 
I agree the Twitter stuff is super annoying.... I don't mind an update from time to time but come on man!!!! The grab your ***** thing was 30 years ago, people change I am not going to hold him responsible for something he said under private 30 years ago. Not that anyway!

Net Neutrality was Government overreach so we disagree here

So he was talking to a 16 year old Billy Bush about grabbing by the *****? Was Roy Moore also on that bus? Lol.
 
I wanted to see how ridiculous Trumps haters are and if their is a modicum of fairness in them. What could Trump do to change your mind on him to maybe a neutral stance?
I've despised Trump for decades. In terms of him as a person, I know that he will never do anything that could change my mind about him.

To wit: There is absolutely no chance that Trump will wake up tomorrow; fire all these incompetent unqualified idiots he's put in charge of various federal agencies; hire a bunch of experts to manage the executive branch; have those agencies do their jobs properly and effectively; stop attacking the media; do what he can to stabilize international affairs; realize that climate change is real, and at the end of unwinding all the damage he's done, resign while admitting that he sexually harassed and assaulted numerous women, and that his actions disqualify him from the Presidency.

None of that is going to happen. Every day, he does something which reinforces my belief that he's unfit for office. Thus, I see no reason why I should change my opinion of him.
 
What are you looking for? I for one could care less about how brash he is I want results! I could give 2 ****s what Angela Merkel thinks of our President

What makes you think that someone who does nothing but spew ignorant immature gibberish all day long is going to deliver any kind of desirable result?

And what does any of this have to do with Angela Merkel or Tony Blair?
 
What makes you think that someone who does nothing but spew ignorant immature gibberish all day long is going to deliver any kind of desirable result?

And what does any of this have to do with Angela Merkel or Tony Blair?

1. People seem to care what other World Leaders think of ours.

2. Tony Blair I brought up remembering him speaking before President Bush and then hearing Bushes inarticulate speech was awful. So I used Tony Blair in reference to if Trump spoke and acted like him would that individual like him then?

3. Lastly Trump in his first year has already accomplished more than Obama in 8 years!

1. Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch supports Constitutional Law
2. 59 missiles dropped in Syria.
3. No longer in TPP
4. Illegal immigration is now down 70%( the lowest in 17 years)
5. Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index 125.6
6. Mortgage applications for new homes rise to a 7 year high.
7. Arranged 20% Tariff on soft lumber from Canada.
8. Bids for border wall are well underway.
9. Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord.
10. Keystone pipeline approved.
11. NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%
12. Allowing VA to terminate bad employees.
13. Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans.
14. More than 600,000 Jobs created
15. Median household income at a 7 year high.
16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever in its history.
17. China agreed to import American beef.
18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks.
19. Boosted energy independence.
20. MOAB for ISIS
21. Travel ban reinstated.
22. Executive order for religious freedom.
23. Jump started NASA
24. $600 million cut/saved from UN peacekeeping budget.
25. Targeting of MS13 gangs
26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants.
27. Signed 41 bills to date
28. Created a commission on child trafficking
29. Created a commission on voter fraud
30. Created a commission for opioids addiction.
31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients.
32. Unemployment lowest since May 2007.
33. Historic Black College University initiative
34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act
35. Created an office for illegal immigrant crime victims.
36. Reversed Dodd-Frank
37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning
38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement.
39. End of DAPA program.
40. Stopped companies from moving out of America.
41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs.
42. Encouraged country to once again “Buy American” and hire American
43. Communicates directly to American people via Twitter without spin of hostile media
44. Cutting regulations - two for every one created.
45. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America First
46. Apprentice program
47. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years.
48 $78 Billion promised Reinvestment FROM major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota...
49. Denied FBI a new building.
50. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation.
51. Saves $22 million by reducing white house payroll.
52. Department of Treasury reports a $182 billion surplus for April 2017 (2nd largest in history.)
53. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt.
54. Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years.
55. Signed an Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence And Economic Growth
56. Has already accomplished more to stop government interference into people's lives than any President in the history of America.
57. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman.
58. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time Frame dated march 15 2017, to trim the fat, restructure and improve efficiency of their branch
 
What could Trump do to change your mind on him to maybe a neutral stance?

He could go back in time and not scam regular Americans out of nearly a quarter billion dollars in his university scam, not assault or harass a dozen woman, and not lie and mislead people over two thousand times since being inaugurated alone.
 
He could go back in time and not scam regular Americans out of nearly a quarter billion dollars in his university scam, not assault or harass a dozen woman, and not lie and mislead people over two thousand times since being inaugurated alone.

1. That was settled for $25 mil for whatever reasons, has nothing to do with Presidency

2. I have seen no facts on this ~ Conjecture based. I could say you fondled me in 9th grade, doesn't mean it happened!

3. Misled? Maybe campaign promises not yet fulfilled? It takes Congress. Executive Branch cannot make laws I am sure you are aware? I hope?
 
1. That was settled for $25 mil

Which is not a quarter of a billion dollars, the amount he scammed regular Americans out of.

for whatever reasons, has nothing to do with Presidency

Don't care.

2. I have seen no facts on this ~ Conjecture based. I could say you fondled me in 9th grade, doesn't mean it happened!

Denialism and hand-waving.

3. Misled? Maybe campaign promises not yet fulfilled? It takes Congress. Executive Branch cannot make laws I am sure you are aware? I hope?

Yes, lied and misled. If he went back in time and didn't do that, that would help me to change my mind about him.

I'll also add that if he went back in time and didn't go to war with news just for covering him, didn't attack law enforcement, didn't attempt to influence the Justice Department to go after his political opponents, didn't obstruct justice into the investigations into him, and didn't coddle White Supremacists and didn't give classified Israeli intelligence to the Russians just to gain their respect, those changes would also help me to change my mind about him.
 
Well, I certainly apologize if you think I was seeking to alter your context. I would never omit part of a post just to do that because its dishonest and it shows a lack of integrity. I went back and checked to make sure I didn't do you a disservice. But the rest of what you wrote just reinforced what I brought forward so there was no point. It was more filler. The integrity of your context is here so I don't understand what you are getting at. But I will avoid this by simply keeping your posts intact.



This, for example, is new context and each sentence holds its own topic of value...

(1) A traditional Conservative is social and fiscal. The constituent base has boasted Christian ethics, family values, and moral superiority for decades. The base has also concerned itself vocally with size of government and debt. Trump is neither a social conservative nor a fiscal conservative and the Conservative base betrayed everything it supposedly believed in so that they could enthusiastically cheer for an anti-thesis in the wake of years of hate-fueled Fox News propaganda under Obama. We are talking about a Conservative base that held Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, and Bill Clinton accountable for their sexual misconduct. The GOP actually begged the constituency not to vote for Trump in the Primaries. So I don't understand where you see that he is more conservative than a "conservative."

(B) Based on the reality of his conduct, policies (or lack of), and internationally uncooperative image, I don't see where you base "fine" on. He is shooting from the hip, uses roll-back tactics to please those who hate Obama, and when in doubt he pops out an arbitrary Tweet to his fan club. He really has no positive agenda.

(&) It seems common sense to me. Adding almost $2 trillion to the national credit card means new taxes to compensate. Making the tax cuts for the wealthy permanent, while the tax-cut for the Middle Class expire, means new taxes upon the Middle Class to compensate well before then. And Paul Ryan has already announced that the GOP is attacking welfare, Medicaid, and Medicare next year. Does reform mean stripping services, increasing premiums, or levying new taxes to compensate? Historically, an increase in premiums move people to drop coverage, which increases premiums of those still looking to be insured. And do we think that only Liberals are on welfare, medicaid, and medicare?

(4) The Republicans have already committed suicide through Trump's poor behavior, his weaker-than Obama's bad Foreign Policy, The GOP and Trump's divisive Roy Moore game, and with this Tax-Cut Bill that is absolutely about the political and economic "elite" that Republicans claimed to be sick of in their Primaries. The GOP will not get the swing votes that Clinton gave them last year unless the GOP dumps Trump (Ulysses S. Grant style)...or Trump grows up and becomes the proper statesman and diplomat that the country deserves (And I mean despite the behavior of the constituent mob that saw a false god last year).

No worries. Thanks.

For your peruasal.
Trump?s First Year Accomplishments Compiled In Shockingly Long List - Rasmussen Reports®
 
Which is not a quarter of a billion dollars, the amount he scammed regular Americans out of.



Don't care.



Denialism and hand-waving.



Yes, lied and misled. If he went back in time and didn't do that, that would help me to change my mind about him.

I'll also add that if he went back in time and didn't go to war with news just for covering him, didn't attack law enforcement, didn't attempt to influence the Justice Department to go after his political opponents, didn't obstruct justice into the investigations into him, and didn't coddle White Supremacists and didn't give classified Israeli intelligence to the Russians just to gain their respect, those changes would also help me to change my mind about him.

Were going to disagree on just about everything I see...

Hillary is still free!

The News went to War with him

I don't remember any attacks on Law enforcement? That was Obama

He didn't obstruct Justice, he asked for loyalty, and said " I hope you can see it clear on Gen Flynn" Nothing in there says Stop investigating him, sure you can interpret it in anyway you want. But there just isn't any Obstruction here!

Lastly, there were KKK, BLM, and Antifa rioting their.... Trump said all parties were wrong. There were also people that were Neighbors their protesting the removal of the Statue in that community. They were not KKK / BLM or Antifa just people not wanting the Statue taken down. Those were the people Trump said " There were good people their too"

If you cannot see the facts in what I showed you, there is clearly no dialogue that can be had here.
 
He didn't obstruct Justice, he asked for loyalty,

If he went back in time and didn't demand a loyalty oath from the director of the FBI, that too would also help.

and said " I hope you can see it clear on Gen Flynn" Nothing in there says Stop investigating him, sure you can interpret it in anyway you want. But there just isn't any Obstruction here!

Nobody believes that, including yourself. Also, if he went back in time and didn't fire Comey for investigating Flynn and for not dropping the Russia investigation just to relieve political pressure off himself, that too would help change my mind about him.

Lastly, there were KKK, BLM, and Antifa rioting their.... Trump said all parties were wrong. There were also people that were Neighbors their protesting the removal of the Statue in that community. They were not KKK / BLM or Antifa just people not wanting the Statue taken down. Those were the people Trump said " There were good people their too"

If he didn't dismiss the actions of Nazis and KKK even in the wake of a Nazi murdering a protester, that too would help change my mind about him. Also, if he didn't regularly disseminate White Supremacist propaganda on his Twitter page, that too would help.
 

Yes, I am aware of some of these arguments from commentary, which is largely based on bias opinion. They are largely based on the act of signing something, not the impacts or any consequences of it. And I do not see most of it as positive accomplishment (rolling back the past is not moving forward); and some of these arguments he gets undeserved credit (residuals of Obama's economic policies of his first quarters, and residual of the last two years worth of effort to train and organize a local offensive against IS). You may as well give Obama the credit for the Great Recession or credit for getting Osama Bin Laden, despite the intelligence community working on it for a decade. And did you notice that most "roll back" was about creating more wealth for the already wealthy?

Now, as far as illegal immigration, that is his. And what Trump is, apparently, doing with our international aid to countries like Pakistan and Palestine is going to be all Trump's. This can be positive as long as he doesn't allow his silly ego to get in the way and if he actually means it for a change.

Also, this Tax-Cut Bill is all his. Incidentally, the government shut down this time around was held off for a month. In the meantime the GOP argument is that they want more money for military defense (unnecessary and based on state politics) and border security. And during Trump's "First 100 Days," which are the historically worst on record, he revived NASA. With them celebrating their grand tax-cut Bill, how do you think the GOP is going write checks?

- Not by applying new taxes on the poor, of who can't afford it and was left out of this Tax-Cut Bill.
- Not the wealthy, of who's tax-cuts are not set to expire.

You, Middle Class...the people the GOP tried to argue that this Bill was for in the first place. You will see new taxes starting next year and your idea of a tax-cut will be reduced to nothing. Therefore, Trump's Tax-Cut Bill is also not a positive accomplishment.
 
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What are you looking for? I for one could care less about how brash he is I want results! I could give 2 ****s what Angela Merkel thinks of our President

How other countries view the president does matter to an extent, because relations can deteriorate if a country views Trump poorly.
 
No, Trump. Hillary was a uniquely bad candidate, but Republican primary voters ignored a pretty good field--one stronger than the one Reagan faced--and chose this dumbass.

Nice choice of words for Hillary. Let's face it. She only had to go up against Bernie, and took forever to knock him out of the race. Obviously there were no Democrats that wanted the job after Obama screwed things up so bad. They probably didn't think they could do any better. That's why so many ran on the Republican side. Because they knew they would look like a genius after their four or eight year term in office after Obama. Which is exactly what Trump is going to look like. Open your eyes and see what all he has accomplished so far. If nothing else, I would think that you would be thrilled with your retirement acct. It's only going to get better too. Oh, that's right. You probably sold out when Trump took office. Remember; the economy was suppose to tank.
 
I would ignore the C&P of a chain email, but this jumped out:

58. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time Frame dated march 15 2017, to trim the fat, restructure and improve efficiency of their branch

Time given for this project was over months ago. Seems Trump was mere hours ago complaining about the DOJ, for one. I take it his directive, order, or whatever it was, was not followed satisfactorily. Also, calling a vague instruction like that an accomplishment is really grasping at straws.

Some of the other claims are simply false or just silly, but this list has already been debated elsewhere.
 
Were going to disagree on just about everything I see...

Hillary is still free!

The News went to War with him

I don't remember any attacks on Law enforcement? That was Obama

He didn't obstruct Justice, he asked for loyalty, and said " I hope you can see it clear on Gen Flynn" Nothing in there says Stop investigating him, sure you can interpret it in anyway you want. But there just isn't any Obstruction here!

Lastly, there were KKK, BLM, and Antifa rioting their.... Trump said all parties were wrong. There were also people that were Neighbors their protesting the removal of the Statue in that community. They were not KKK / BLM or Antifa just people not wanting the Statue taken down. Those were the people Trump said " There were good people their too"

If you cannot see the facts in what I showed you, there is clearly no dialogue that can be had here.

Yawn. Trump admitted at least twice, on the record, he fired Comey to interfere with/end the Russia probe. That's OOJ.

If you don't know what you're talking about, why bother talking?
 
I wanted to see how ridiculous Trumps haters are and if their is a modicum of fairness in them. What could Trump do to change your mind on him to maybe a neutral stance?

Absolutely nothing. He was not an honorable person before he was elected and he remains so now. Never liked him and never will.
 
Nothing could change the minds of the liberal/Demos. You can take a look around here with the threads and posts against our president. This is all they have to go by...complaining and jumping on every syllable President Trump says.
What Donald Trump said during his running for office made him President.
So he is getting things done and it has shown. Maybe he's going too fast for the liberal/Demos. My friend Paul(aka livelonger) was the first to complain. He had posted all kinds of negativity against Donald Trump and it backfired. Matter of fact it helped send him to the White House.
In short you will have the liberal/Demo ranker but that's okay.
...(smiling)He's president folks and protecting our country...deal with it.
 
You know that would be awesome! If he could just shut up, get off twitter and stop glorifying himself

Why should he allow a heavily-biased media to be the go-between to Americans? He can speak to us directly without slick spokespeople, speech writers, and sanitized media.
 
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