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Are you tired of the perpetual state of war the US is in?

Are you tired of the constant state of war?

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Crovax said:
:roll: I always have to roll my eyes when people talk about Eisenhower’s military industrial complex. They defense budget now is less than half what it was then (as a % of GDP)
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Then that gave Eisenhower all the more reason to decry the military-industrial complex, didn't it? Or do you not know that the president cannot simply snap his fingers and change the federal budget to fit his whim?
 
Glen Contrarian said:
I find that defense of Ron Paul unlikely since the newspaper was in operation before he even held a statewide office in Texas, when he was a relative nobody. When someone is not particularly well-known, it's very unlikely that they're going to leave the editing and publishing of a newspaper to mere associates.
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When someone is not well-known or established, they can have a lot of questionable relations. Further, we have decades of public life on record for Ron and nothing similar to what was in those newsletters comes up. If there was some small ideological connection then I think we'd have seen it. Also, he supports policies that would've been significantly more beneficial to minorities and blacks as a lot of it involves not criminalizing everything under the sun and running almost a prison state.

I find it strange that things Ron Paul didn't say, and may not have been aware of, is so focused on while mainstreamers like Hillary can talk about unhuman "super predators", talk about "bringing them to heel", and support things like the 3 strike policy that has imprisoned so many minorities.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Then that gave Eisenhower all the more reason to decry the military-industrial complex, didn't it? Or do you not know that the president cannot simply snap his fingers and change the federal budget to fit his whim?
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Eisenhower certainly had cause to say what he said but the US clearly headed his warning and drastically reduced defense spending to the point where his speech is of little relevance to today’s defense issues
 
Fishking said:
I know, I know...you were just as outraged over Spain using police brutality against Catalonia as well because no government has the right to keep general peace.
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I've never been to Spain, but I have lived in Ukraine. And in the ARC. Just your rotten luck huh?
 
Cardinal said:
What about Russia's military intervention in the Ukraine and its annexation of Crimea?
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That was totally justified because Russian claim, reference to Pinochet, conspiracy theory, something about US meddling....

for some folks, the only policy North Star in foreign policy is that the US has to be the bad guy.
 
jimbo said:
The UN is most of the problem, not part of the solution.
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It is true that it is poorly constituted and requires a new charter.
 
joG said:
It is true that it is poorly constituted and requires a new charter.
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The US needs to get away from the UN. And the UN away from the US. Aside from spending our money, it does us no favors.
 
jimbo said:
The US needs to get away from the UN. And the UN away from the US. Aside from spending our money, it does us no favors.
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That is inly a survival alternative, if we have a supranational organisation that can enforce security.
 
joG said:
That is inly a survival alternative, if we have a supranational organisation that can enforce security.
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We are the supranational security enforcement organization.
 
jimbo said:
We are the supranational security enforcement organization.
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That has been the case. But it is too expensive and abdicating without a replacement affording centralized security it is a recipe for large scale war and a breakdown of our economic model.
 
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