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Just curious....
The MSM.
btw, your poll didn't allow me to select more than one choice.
Just curious....
Just curious....
He is a bigot and a pedophile, while the Republican base was fine with that, the few remaining moderates in the party and everyone else wasn't. Thus he narrowly lost.
Moore's own conduct caused him to lose...
...but it was Steve Bannon that got him to win the primary, and so made the problem far worse. Luther Strange - whom Moore defeated in the primary - would probably have easily defeated Doug Jones. Moore lost a senate seat...but Bannon lost his whole argument for the transformation of the GOP.
I'm curious to how you came to that conclusion. It wasn't a few moderates that changed anything. Trump received 1.3 million votes and Moore got roughly half of that. Hillary received around 700k and Doug got around that number. It looks like ever Democrat in the state came to vote while half the Republican voters didn't show up. If the base was fine with Moore like you said then he would have won easily. This isn't some swing state it is a deep red one. The only reason Doug won was due to people not being able to vote for an alleged child molester.
This is what I love about post-election analysis. Everyone has their opinion on why a candidate lost, why the other candidate won and what it means for the party and future elections. The problem is that "everyone" thinks their answer is the correct one and often its just one reason.
There were likely a multitude of reasons Jones won and Moore lost. They would include, but not be limited to the child molestation charges, Moore appearing to be a self-righteous hypocrite, Moore was removed from elected office twice, Moore's wife's friends are jewish (the stupid comments she made the day before the election), the Black community turned out for Jones because of his prosecution of bombers/murderers of the 16th St Baptist Church, Trump's pathetic approval ratings kept people home, Bannon's endorsement, Trump's endorsement, Dems put of a strong candidate, Dems outspend the Cons 6 to 1, Republicans threatened to not seat Moore, Shelby's telling Alabama not to vote for Moore...... Likely some portion of each of these lead to yesterday's win for Jones.
The weighting of these reasons can bring about discussion, but the idea that it was one thing is pretty naive.
The people of Alabama decided that Moore was too extreme and many believed his accusers. They decided that a bigoted, accused childmolester kicked off the bench twice was worse than a Democrat.
I'm curious to how you came to that conclusion. It wasn't a few moderates that changed anything. Trump received 1.3 million votes and Moore got roughly half of that. Hillary received around 700k and Doug got around that number. It looks like ever Democrat in the state came to vote while half the Republican voters didn't show up. If the base was fine with Moore like you said then he would have won easily. This isn't some swing state it is a deep red one. The only reason Doug won was due to people not being able to vote for an alleged child molester.
Roy Moore was a terrible candidate. Ignore the false accusations flung his way by attention whores looking for a quick buck. He was removed from office not once, but twice. McConnell didn't want him. Trump didn't want him. I don't know what the GOP was thinking when he was chosen over Luther Strange. I wish I could find some interviews from voters during the primary who thought to themselves: "I can't vote for Luther Strange, his politics are too radical..."
There's also this...
Apparently the Dems spent money hand over fist for a symbolic win. The GOP will come out the winners in the long term since this was not even a full term and any reasonable GOP candidate will take the seat in 2020.
The black people of Alabama. Whites voted overwhelmingly for Moore.
And you know it is intellectually dishonest to compare turnout for an off year special election to a presidential election. The fact is the hardcore base in Alabama came out and voted for Moore, no else did. The hardcore base chose to rationalize the fact the guy was a credibly accused molester, no one else did. If the last 2 years have shown anything, its how immoral and power hungry much of the socially conservative and religious right is.
You're either lying or ignorant of Trump's statements on Roy Moore, which is it?
The people of Alabama decided that Moore was too extreme and many believed his accusers. They decided that a bigoted, accused childmolester kicked off the bench twice was worse than a Democrat.
Just curious....
He did not want him at the beginning but when he beat Strange, the actual favorite of Trump, he had to be all in to save face/keep his majority in the senate 2 seats. But he was not the candidate of Trump's choice, he tried to make the best of a bad situation but all in all he just did himself (Trump that is) a disservice by promoting an extremist suspected sexual predator. Now Trump is a double looser, once when Strange was defeated by Moore and second when Moore was defeated by Doug Jones.
All in all a total disaster for Trump.
The black people of Alabama. Whites voted overwhelmingly for Moore.
I think the years old allegations did him in. I also think he was a terrible candidate.
I'm bothered by the fact that in today's political climate that unproven decades old allegations mean more than the policies and ability mean less than smear campaigns.
On average, women preferred Jones by 57 percent, according to CNN, but the breakdown differed greatly by race. Black women were a particularly important demographic for Jones’s win, turning out in big numbers in a way that was reminiscent of Democratic turnout for former President Barack Obama.
Ninety-eight percent of black women voted for Jones, while 63 percent of white women voted for Moore. About 30 percent of white voters overall chose Jones, CNN reported.
White men and women largely still chose the Republican candidate, with 68 percent voting for Moore, especially in rural counties. White, college-educated women preferred Moore, with 57 percent voting for him compared to 43 percent of college graduates overall. White voters without a college degree overwhelmingly chose the Republican candidate, according to an exit poll by The Washington Post.
About 72 percent of white men voted for Moore, while 2 percent wrote in candidates. The write-in candidates signaled a split among Republican voters, which President Donald Trump said was a “very big factor” in the defeat.
Not being your choice, and not wanting him are two different things. Hillary Clinton wasn't my choice for POTUS, but did I want her to be president more than I did Trump? Obviously. Simply saying Trump didn't want him, when he made it imperative that Roy Moore win in order to get his agenda passed, is ****ing ridiculous. Of course Trump wanted Moore.
Not at first, he had thrown his weight behind Strange, when that was no longer an option he went all in for Moore, but it was not his desired republican candidate, but of the 2 in the running, Moore or the evil liberal democrat, he went for Moore. But as a second option, not his first one.
So you rabid anti-Trumpers hope for..... :lol:
So he wanted Moore when it became politically expedient. Okie dokie.
Given his previous successes in the state and early polling data, I'd say but for the sexual allegation charges he would have won. Therefore I'd have to say those sexual allegations were the largest, or "main", reason for his electoral loss.