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Do Russian Oligarchs own Trump and his empire?

Do Russian Oligarchs own Trump and his empire?

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Kobie said:
I vividly remember the end of the Cold War; I remember somewhat when we actually did nuclear attack drills in our classrooms. The Russians were the enemy.
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How does US propaganda taste? Must be terribly fishy.
 
Oreo said:
No I understand exactly what you're doing. You're trying to parse words to make an attempt at deflecting or rerouting the conversation from the thread topic. Very typical of a Trump supporter.
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:shock: You don't know what your talking about obviously.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
How did you ever miss that there is a Rebellion against the intelligentsia on?

Trump beat all of the Washington pros of both Divisions.

I suggest that you show your respects.
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I suppose some people take issue with taking a knee and kissing the ring.

Others, not so much.
 
They don't own Trump; he owns them. haven't you liberals realized yet that Donald Trump is the Anti-Christ? You're sooo slow to catch on... no wonder you lose so often.
 
Mycroft said:
There is no collusion and there is no obstruction of justice...at least, not concerning Trump. You have some irrelevant stuff on Manafort and a couple of other guys who lied. Big deal.

No...no meat here. Just a big nothingburger for you to chow down on.
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As they say--"trying to reason with a Trump supporter is like trying to teach Algebra to a Chimpanzee." I have given you plenty of links that included FOX news video's. If you can't learn anything from those, then there is no hope for you.
 
holbritter said:
:shock: You don't know what your talking about obviously.
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Yeah, unfortunately for you, I do. I'm what you would call a political junky, I watch and read everything--and have been doing it for many years. So when this comes crashing down on your heads--make sure you point your blame fingers in the right direction--of course, including looking into your own mirror.
https://www.debatepolitics.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=303092

You were warned about Trump a 1000 times over and you ignored all those warnings, now you OWN it.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/all...servativerepublican-but-now-i-realize-im-not/

Your first mistake was making this Ass Clown the poster boy of the Republican party, your second mistake was not being smart enough to vote for Hillary Clinton to keep the Ass Clown out of the Oval office.

Republicans are left with 2 options.
1. Remove Trump and his Russian cohorts from office asap or
2. Burn down the entire party in 2018--2020 & beyond.

If Republicans can do 8 investigations into Benghazi, and endless talk of emails, it's not hard to imagine what Democrats will do with Treason, Obstruction & Lies when they take over in 2018. You'll also get a great education into what that Emoluments clause in the Constitution is all about, (which is another reason for impeachment) should Democrats not want to go along with the current setup--:roll:
https://www.brookings.edu/research/...xt-meaning-and-application-to-donald-j-trump/
 
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Oreo said:
As they say--"trying to reason with a Trump supporter is like trying to teach Algebra to a Chimpanzee." I have given you plenty of links that included FOX news video's. If you can't learn anything from those, then there is no hope for you.
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Trying to present facts and reason to a Mainstream Media believer is like trying to lead a horse to water...you can't make him think.

I'm afraid you are stuck at the trough.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
How did you ever miss that there is a Rebellion against the intelligentsia on?

Trump beat all of the Washington pros of both Divisions.

I suggest that you show your respects.
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Ma and Pa Kettle made the difference in the election, in three blue states in particular. Trump won PA, MI, WI by the aggregate of 70,000 Ma and Pa Kettle votes among 'em.


Ma and Pa Kettle Lead America To the Polls to Vote Their Choice

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Certain voters get tagged so they can vote. Other voters get tagged and bagged.


There's no question Ma and Pa Kettle are in rebellion luv 'em. They chose the guy who most reflects their own culture, values, brainpower. Ma and Pa are most of the 30% who continue to support Trump. Ma and Pa don't know Trump from Putin so they need to be informed. The rest of the 30% who do know Putin-Trump and who worship 'em simply need to be outvoted next time.

Trump as Potus/CinC will never gain the respect of the 60%-70% who can't ever agree with Ma and Pa Kettle in their support of Trump and virtually every numbnuts thing Trump says and does. And congratulations to the OP for initiating a thread the Trumpeteers try to discourage opponents doing.
 
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slick said:
Many CNN viewers posting on this thread. There is an obvious rush to get out the news first but the '
'desperate attempts by the anti Trump press to prove Russian collusion is leading to gaffes that make readers
question even legitimate stories. They offer ammo to Trump who in turn bash the press for its 'FAKE NEWS'.
It's all backfiring spectacularly.'

But it's obvious the leftwing posters who survive on this site believe all the initial 'FAKE NEWS' stories & forget about
CNN's embarrassing retractions.
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Reading your posts presents the rare treat and privilege of eyewitnessing the Trump mind in its derailed train of thought thx. I look forward to your every post that I can come across.

We over on this side are thriving in the current atmosphere and course of developments thx again. The Russia-Trump investigations are serious, productive, moving ahead steadily and convincingly. Happy new year to everyone.

Compliments to the OP btw for initiating an excellent thread.
 
Captain America said:
I suppose some people take issue with taking a knee and kissing the ring.

Others, not so much.
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This is a misunderstanding of Trump....Trump is playing the game to win and he wants to win fair and square against the best.....Trump not only understands when others play the game in their own best interests, if they do something other than kiss his ass because they have a better play, he appreciates it if the play make sense.....but if folks are being stupid and being dicks, especially if people seem to enjoy being dicks.....YA, Trump has a big problem with that.

EDIT: I say this knowing of Trumps history of not honoring contracts when he decided that the work was not what he ordered and that he pretty clearly cheated on at least one wife and maybe even hit her though I say that this is his business not ours (super radical idea right there these days....not agreeing with the feminsts dictates on the matter)....Trump is a complicated man.
 
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Mycroft said:
Trying to present facts and reason to a Mainstream Media believer is like trying to lead a horse to water...you can't make him think.

I'm afraid you are stuck at the trough.
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Trump has his face in the trough.

There's more than only borsche in it too.

Since the sanctions imposed due to Putin's War in Ukraine the ruble has become devalued to 60 : 1 USD. With the ruble in a rubble Trump is taking a hammering by not being able to build his hotels and corporate interests in Russia. Those nasty sanctions are hitting all of Putin's interests because capital is being frozen out of Russia.

Flynn was the Putin-Trump point man in getting the sanctions trashed. Flynn failed however. One reason Flynn failed is because Flynn made himself a notorious public figure sitting at the right hand of Putin at the RT banquet in Moscow. Flynn at the banquet stupidly placed himself in a high visibility place and setting right there next to Putin. Putin was even more stupid to put Flynn at his right hand at a media event that was highly publicized.

We can see also why U.S. is flailing in Afghanistan given Lt.-Gen. Flynn was chief globally of U.S. military intelligence. (Did you know btw the term 'military intelligence' is an oxymoron!)

Flynn was fired by Potus Obama on the recommendation of SecDef and Director of National Intelligence who witnessed Flynn going off the deep end in the position. (The then chairman of the Joint Chiefs Admiral Mike Mullen passed on attending the three-star Flynn's retirement ceremony and parade.) After Trump picked up the careening catastrophe that Flynn is I'd bet Flynn was on track for a Hero of Russia medal from Putin. (Tillerson already has a Friend of Russia medal from Putin due to Tillerson's dayze at Exxon.)

Methinks Deutsche Bank may be doing more to keep Putin afloat than any single financial entity outside of Russia. Or in Russia for that matter. Mueller has already gone a-knocking at Deutsche Bank and it has put Trump wheezing and wandering. The Trump-Putin Fanboyz are in the meantime sputtering and spinning about commies and leftists supposedly being their antagonists. Fact is Putin and Trump have ventured in way over their heads. So no one should be surprised if we hear 'em start gurgling.
 
Tangmo said:
Trump has his face in the trough.

There's more than only borsche in it too.

Since the sanctions imposed due to Putin's War in Ukraine the ruble has become devalued to 60 : 1 USD. With the ruble in a rubble Trump is taking a hammering by not being able to build his hotels and corporate interests in Russia. Those nasty sanctions are hitting all of Putin's interests because capital is being frozen out of Russia.

Flynn was the Putin-Trump point man in getting the sanctions trashed. Flynn failed however. One reason Flynn failed is because Flynn made himself a notorious public figure sitting at the right hand of Putin at the RT banquet in Moscow. Flynn at the banquet stupidly placed himself in a high visibility place and setting right there next to Putin. Putin was even more stupid to put Flynn at his right hand at a media event that was highly publicized.

We can see also why U.S. is flailing in Afghanistan given Lt.-Gen. Flynn was chief globally of U.S. military intelligence. (Did you know btw the term 'military intelligence' is an oxymoron!)

Flynn was fired by Potus Obama on the recommendation of SecDef and Director of National Intelligence who witnessed Flynn going off the deep end in the position. (The then chairman of the Joint Chiefs Admiral Mike Mullen passed on attending the three-star Flynn's retirement ceremony and parade.) After Trump picked up the careening catastrophe that Flynn is I'd bet Flynn was on track for a Hero of Russia medal from Putin. (Tillerson already has a Friend of Russia medal from Putin due to Tillerson's dayze at Exxon.)

Methinks Deutsche Bank may be doing more to keep Putin afloat than any single financial entity outside of Russia. Or in Russia for that matter. Mueller has already gone a-knocking at Deutsche Bank and it has put Trump wheezing and wandering. The Trump-Putin Fanboyz are in the meantime sputtering and spinning about commies and leftists supposedly being their antagonists. Fact is Putin and Trump have ventured in way over their heads. So no one should be surprised if we hear 'em start gurgling.
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LOL!! You know...you sound suspiciously like Rachel Maddow. Just saying...

In any case, the biggest problem Russia has regarding their economy and their currency isn't because of any sanctions. It's because of Trump's actions regarding energy...specifically oil, gas and coal. He has reduced the price, turned the US into an energy exporter, made deals with European countries who WOULD have been dealing with Russia. That's what's bothering Russia. That's why Russia is doing what they can...little enough as it is...to help Trump deal with NK, ISIS and Syria. They want their exports back.

Trump has done the same thing to Russia that he's done to a bunch of other countries: Placed them into a position where they have to make choices they DON'T want to make...and then MAKING them choose.

But, you see, Maddow and the rest of the talking potato heads have no idea about any of this stuff because they are too busy making **** up about "Trump/Russia". And you are repeating their **** almost word for word.

Remember what I said about making them think?
 
Mycroft said:
LOL!! You know...you sound suspiciously like Rachel Maddow. Just saying...

In any case, the biggest problem Russia has regarding their economy and their currency isn't because of any sanctions. It's because of Trump's actions regarding energy...specifically oil, gas and coal. He has reduced the price, turned the US into an energy exporter, made deals with European countries who WOULD have been dealing with Russia. That's what's bothering Russia. That's why Russia is doing what they can...little enough as it is...to help Trump deal with NK, ISIS and Syria. They want their exports back.

Trump has done the same thing to Russia that he's done to a bunch of other countries: Placed them into a position where they have to make choices they DON'T want to make...and then MAKING them choose.

But, you see, Maddow and the rest of the talking potato heads have no idea about any of this stuff because they are too busy making **** up about "Trump/Russia". And you are repeating their **** almost word for word.

Remember what I said about making them think?
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I see you are standing erect right behind Trump bent over at the trough. Can't wait to plunge right in we see. It's a big trough so enjoy your turn.

U.S. exporting energy has been developing and realized over several years due to investments in shale oil and other oil drilling in the Dakotas and in the region in general up there. We do recall the several years of back and forth over the Keystone Pipeline and the collapse of oil prices that coincided with the sanctions against Russia.

We know further that the Russian economy is a big gas station for Europe and China too. We also recall that when Putin turned quickly to China after the sanctions the Boyz in Beijing fleeced Putin for low prices given Putin's desperation to sign a deal to move gas frozen by the sanctions.

Rachel Maddow btw bothers you so that is an issue for you. Putin bothers me when he cyber invades the United States in his campaign to smash our democracy. Putin-Trump.
 
Risky Thicket said:
What the ****??? Your logic comes from... Please share a few links.
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Not tonight, I had a hard day getting ready for a catering for 80....had something go very wrong, which almost never happens to me, I am well into drinking.

My argument is that Trump has loads of empathy, that he could not do what he has done without loads of empathy.

Yes, I understand this is a radical argument.
 
Mycroft said:
There is no collusion and there is no obstruction of justice...at least, not concerning Trump. You have some irrelevant stuff on Manafort and a couple of other guys who lied. Big deal.

No...no meat here. Just a big nothingburger for you to chow down on.
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You know this because you have reviewed the evidence that Mueller has collected and not shared with the public, or, you consider wishful thinking and rationalization psychologically comforting?
 
Mycroft said:
LOL!! You know...you sound suspiciously like Rachel Maddow. Just saying...

In any case, the biggest problem Russia has regarding their economy and their currency isn't because of any sanctions. It's because of Trump's actions regarding energy...specifically oil, gas and coal. He has reduced the price, turned the US into an energy exporter, made deals with European countries who WOULD have been dealing with Russia. That's what's bothering Russia. That's why Russia is doing what they can...little enough as it is...to help Trump deal with NK, ISIS and Syria. They want their exports back.

Trump has done the same thing to Russia that he's done to a bunch of other countries: Placed them into a position where they have to make choices they DON'T want to make...and then MAKING them choose.

But, you see, Maddow and the rest of the talking potato heads have no idea about any of this stuff because they are too busy making **** up about "Trump/Russia". And you are repeating their **** almost word for word.

Remember what I said about making them think?
Tangmo said:
I see you are standing erect right behind Trump bent over at the trough. Can't wait to plunge right in we see. It's a big trough so enjoy your turn.

U.S. exporting energy has been developing and realized over several years due to investments in shale oil and other oil drilling in the Dakotas and in the region in general up there. We do recall the several years of back and forth over the Keystone Pipeline and the collapse of oil prices that coincided with the sanctions against Russia.

We know further that the Russian economy is a big gas station for Europe and China too. We also recall that when Putin turned quickly to China after the sanctions the Boyz in Beijing fleeced Putin for low prices given Putin's desperation to sign a deal to move gas frozen by the sanctions.

Rachel Maddow btw bothers you so that is an issue for you. Putin bothers me when he cyber invades the United States in his campaign to smash our democracy. Putin-Trump.
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That is correct. It's laughable to assign any credit for exporting of oil to Trump.

Congressional vote, Obama’s signature end oil export ban
Posted by Bloomberg Date: December 18, 2015

With the stroke of a pen, President Barack Obama on Friday ended 40 years of U.S. crude oil export limits by signing off on a repeal passed by Congress earlier in the day.
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Oreo said:
Yeah, unfortunately for you, I do. I'm what you would call a political junky, I watch and read everything--and have been doing it for many years. So when this comes crashing down on your heads--make sure you point your blame fingers in the right direction--of course, including looking into your own mirror.
https://www.debatepolitics.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=303092

You were warned about Trump a 1000 times over and you ignored all those warnings, now you OWN it.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/all...servativerepublican-but-now-i-realize-im-not/

Your first mistake was making this Ass Clown the poster boy of the Republican party, your second mistake was not being smart enough to vote for Hillary Clinton to keep the Ass Clown out of the Oval office.

Republicans are left with 2 options.
1. Remove Trump and his Russian cohorts from office asap or
2. Burn down the entire party in 2018--2020 & beyond.

If Republicans can do 8 investigations into Benghazi, and endless talk of emails, it's not hard to imagine what Democrats will do with Treason, Obstruction & Lies when they take over in 2018. You'll also get a great education into what that Emoluments clause in the Constitution is all about, (which is another reason for impeachment) should Democrats not want to go along with the current setup--:roll:
https://www.brookings.edu/research/...xt-meaning-and-application-to-donald-j-trump/
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Well your first assumption, which I was commenting on in the first place, is the person you targeted is far from a trump supporter.

Your second assumption is that I voted for trump. I didn't.
 
holbritter said:
Well your first assumption, which I was commenting on in the first place, is the person you targeted is far from a trump supporter.

Your second assumption is that I voted for trump. I didn't.
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You're not going to convince me of that--not when you ignore REAL news. There are a lot of people that are more than embarrassed by voting for Trump, whom are stating now that they didn't, when they did. Your sentiment and comments reflect that. You can't watch that many video's, and read that many links and then state it's subjective information.

4 Federal Grand Jury indictments and 2 guilty plea's says it's not.
 
Oreo said:
You're not going to convince me of that--not when you ignore REAL news. There are a lot of people that are more than embarrassed by voting for Trump, whom are stating now that they didn't, when they did. Your sentiment and comments reflect that. You can't watch that many video's, and read that many links and then state it's subjective information.

4 Federal Grand Jury indictments and 2 guilty plea's says it's not.
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Well good thing I don't need to convince you of anything. Since you are obviously really bad at reading people, I wouldn't even try.
 
holbritter said:
Well good thing I don't need to convince you of anything. Since you are obviously really bad at reading people, I wouldn't even try.
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Thank You--I don't like to reply to people that won't consider Shep Smith & Chris Wallace FOX NEWS video's, MSNBC video's and links from the Washington Post, and NYT and other credible reliable sources either. If you want the FAKE & DISTORED news--spun into the "news you want to hear" you only need to stay with this.



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