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Whats the biggest threat to the USA? [W:216]

Whats the biggest threat to the USA?

  • Radical Terrorism

    Votes: 2 3.2%

  • Nationalism

    Votes: 11 17.7%

  • Liberalism

    Votes: 36 58.1%

  • Global Warming

    Votes: 7 11.3%

  • Evangelicals

    Votes: 6 9.7%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
RedAkston said:
Clinton took 43%, Bush 37.4% and Perot 18.9%. Clinton did not win the popular vote as he did not have 50%. 56.3% of the voters voted for a candidate other than Clinton. He had the most votes, but he didn't win the popular vote.
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Ah, I see what you're saying. NVM then. :D
 
Kal'Stang said:
I would say extremism. The US has, for the most part and legally speaking, pretty much abolished most of the major issues that was wrong with our laws socially speaking. Due to that our politicians are starting to listen to extremists in order to continue to curry favor and more often than not making a mountain out of a mole hill. One example being gender pronouns. A concept based entirely on feelings with absolutely nothing of substance to it.
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You being an independent, i think is POWERFUL to this claim. How the **** does how one feel = their Gender?
 
I am so happy a majority chose Liberalism..... Because its a mental illness of woah is me let me make horrible decisions and blame everyone else for my failures!
 
Marco Montana said:
I disagree, only because people can live without Government!
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Unfortunately, this government and congress ( and those before it for some time) is taking our money to blow on their pet projects.....with little regard to the Citizens, while kneeling in front of corporate zippers.
 
Polar Bum said:
Unfortunately, this government and congress ( and those before it for some time) is taking our money to blow on their pet projects.....with little regard to the Citizens, while kneeling in front of corporate zippers.
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I've been saying for years and years that special interests are the most dangerous thing in this country. The poll didn't have an 'OTHER' option so I chose what was the biggest threat of those listed.
 
Marco Montana said:
I am so happy a majority chose Liberalism..... Because its a mental illness of woah is me let me make horrible decisions and blame everyone else for my failures!
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You may be happy with the poll results - but it’s seriously flawed and written in way that the poll outcome is inevitable. In other words, you knowingly or unknowingly rigged the outcome.

As far as your personal beliefs about the faults with liberalism - do you also believe that conservatism has no faults or negative impacts on society?
 
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Polar Bum said:
Unfortunately, this government and congress ( and those before it for some time) is taking our money to blow on their pet projects.....with little regard to the Citizens, while kneeling in front of corporate zippers.
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So, Obama giving billions to Iran, and sending money to Socialist Countries, giving N Korea bonus monies and siding with islam was ok?


Corporations build Economy, i am sorry if you think a bunch of middle class people with an Ernie and Mays variety store is the real economic divide?
 
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Unfortunately, this government and congress ( and those before it for some time) is taking our money to blow on their pet projects.....with little regard to the Citizens, while kneeling in front of corporate zippers
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Marco Montana said:
So, Obama giving billions to Iran, and sending money to Socialist Countries, giving N Korea bonus monies and siding with islam was ok?


Corporations build Economy, i am sorry if you think a bunch of middle class people with an Ernie and Mays variety store is the real economic divide?
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Please read the bolded in my statement.
 
The continued raise of tribalism in US politics.
The continues sacrifice of morals and ethics in support of tribalism in US politics ('by any means necessary' comes immediately to mind).
 
Polar Bum said:
Please read the bolded in my statement.
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Ok, so when was good then? I am a Reagan kid, his Presidency made me look at politics. Some of his administration wasn't so good, but he was proud, he was the pillar of AMERICA, he made me want to help even though I was a kid.


Ronald Reagan like him or not, gave me hope as a child, I looked up to his words and his witty replies showed me that adults could handle and loved adversity....

 
The marriage of political oligarchy based on wealth and runaway militarism in the mindset of the American political leadership, both at home and globally are the greatest threats to Ameica today and tomorrow. Republicanism and liberalism are dying on the vine and brute might is replacing rights at home and abroad.

Soon America will face its own version of the Roman Servile Wars triggered by the end of gainful employment for too many Americans. At that point it will be an ever growing segment of the American population itself who are regarded by the political elite as the primary enemies of the state, a state which no longer needs them for their labour and to fight on behalf of the state. Then the darkness of authoritarianism will descend on the Torch of Liberty and will snuff it out. A long deep night will follow where more bestial folk supplant the Rule of Law with the Rule of Man, creating a corporate-based, proto-feudalism political hybrid where privilege and protection flow from whom you attach yourself to rather than from universally applied principles and laws. Welcome to the New Dark Ages* where consumer serfdom, controlling debt and the accelerating culling of the surplus labour pool by removal or by deniable death will be the name of the game.

The juggernaut of Imperial America is coming rapidly at us and that's no dystopian fantasy. The plebes, like me and maybe you, are screwed, but we just don't know it yet or can't bring ourselves to accept it yet. The meek will inherited nothing, not even the Kingdom of Heaven and we will be increasingly marginalised and ghettoised until we leave or die out. The opening moves of this change are happening right now and this process will play out with increasing speed and scope as we move towards the middle of the 21st Century. Unbridled greed and myopic self-interest will shape a new America, which has no place for for most of us as the ideals of liberty, individualism, dignity and opportunity for all and a peoples' capitalist commonwealth will all likely whither and die by the end of the 21st Century. The human condition is about to get much worse in North America as capitalism and democracy implode into corporatism, elitism and the tyranny of the monied and their minions.

* Greg Graffin's words, not mine.

Cheers?
Evilroddy.
 
Marco Montana said:
You being an independent, i think is POWERFUL to this claim. How the **** does how one feel = their Gender?
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I understand their concept. They have separated gender from sex. Made one a social construct and the other biological. And to a degree that is true. Gender rolls are a social construct. But it is based on the sex of the VAST majority of people. It is supposed to be accommodating to those people that have a more variance to their genes than the standard XX and XY chromosomes. At least that is what they say. In reality they use it for everyone and anyone regardless of what chromosomes they have. After all, who is going to get their chromosomes checked? So, despite the relatively few facts that they use, such as chromosomes, and gender roles being a societal construct, it still boils down to "I feel".

They have no clue how that is affecting society. Or if they do they simply do not care. Preferring to live by feelings than by doing what is right. What makes their claims even worse for society is that there is no solid number of the variances that they claim that there is for their "preferred pronouns". I watched a video the other day of a self proclaimed "non-binary" woman who said straight out that it is impossible to tell how many variances of "preferred pronouns" that there is because it is based upon what the individual feels.

And that damages society. Society is supposed to be structured. In society we learn how to act, how to address things, how not to act. It literally governs everything that we do to some degree or another, if not completely. And it does that in order to provide stability. But if we open up a door to where everything is based upon how an individual "feels" then they are no longer trying to be a part of society. They're trying to control it and/or deny being a part of that society. And we can all see how this has affected colleges and universities. People literally run away crying just because some person wouldn't conform to what THEY wanted. Or worse, violence ensues. (and not the type of violence that these gender role warriors claim happens when someone refuses to use their preferred pronoun)

I recently had to have a long talk with my daughter the other day. She had been going around claiming "that's not fair" to pretty much anything and everything. I had to sit her down and explain to her why life isn't fair and used a fair amount of examples to give her reasons why life wasn't fair. Even using examples of what she thought wasn't fair and explaining to her why it was impossible for such to be even accomplished, much less how it would still result in unfairness. She's been good about it the last few days so hopefully I got through to her. Knowing how the school system works though I'm sure that I'll have to have another sit down with her eventually though. :(
 
Winchester said:
That quote came from a well known conservative I admire, wish there more like him. "Liberal" and "Conservative" weren't used as a political identifier in the quote.
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Damn, that is a great quote! I never noticed it, before.

I'm liberal in my politics, but conservative in the way I lead my private life. It may seem like an odd juxtaposition, but it's not. I just don't feel I have the power to impress my values upon my fellow man; I want him to live in freedom and liberty, as I do. But while I let him live his own life, I do have compassion for him as a fellow human being, and feel a need to try to do what I can for him & the betterment of society.

That quote, pretty much describes my worldview! Thanks!
 
Money in politics; Buckley v Valeo's judgment and its interpretation of the 1st amendment.
 
Marco Montana said:
Well lowering test standards in school, Common Core, giving trophies for losing, being offended is an excuse to not do something.... What kind of kids do you think these will grow up to?
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Common Core is a very good idea.

It provides a base level of education.

Local districts can build or add upon this, as they like.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Rest assured that many of these jobs are not done "just as well". A large percentage of the jobs that I do are re-doing the repair/remodel correctly after the bargain (discount?) work was found to be lacking. What I see as a problem is if neither the customer nor the worker sees that a landscape timber is not a suitable fence post then what looked like a fine fence (for about 3 months) must be replaced at considerable cost in labor and material. I guarantee my work, build to local codes (or better) and often jest that if you want a longer guarantee then hire a younger carpenter.
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Awesome line!

No other way about it.
 
slick said:
Those who voted Nationalism the threat to the USA better brace themselves for Nationalism or ethnonationalism
is the most powerful movement the world has ever known. nationalism is not resurgent as
it never died! The disintegration o.f Yugoslavia & the USSR into 22 nations reveals this. Multiracial,
multiethnic & multilingual are & always have been at risk of turmoil & eventual disintegration.

Since 1965 in this country though Nationalism was put on the backburner was always beneath the surface. Trump
realized & took addvantage of that & here we are. That Balkanization has broken up nations
along 'racial. tribal, religous & cultural fault lines' can not be contradicted. Good fences make good neighbors!
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Exactly.

We are tribal, in nature.

I realized this at a very young age, as a cog in the Democratic Machine in big city ward level politics. Each ward had it's own ethnic and cultural flavor. And from that, I learned an axiom that was bandied about when trying to pick a local candidate to run. The axiom states that the voter evaluation of a candidate goes like this:

1] Is he one of us?

2] Is he O.K.?

(note the first requirement)

If the ward was primarily Polish, you better run a Pole. If it's Italian, you run an Italian. No other way around it. It's the first box to check off.
 
Chomsky said:
Damn, that is a great quote! I never noticed it, before.

I'm liberal in my politics, but conservative in the way I lead my private life. It may seem like an odd juxtaposition, but it's not. I just don't feel I have the power to impress my values upon my fellow man; I want him to live in freedom and liberty, as I do. But while I let him live his own life, I do have compassion for him as a fellow human being, and feel a need to try to do what I can for him & the betterment of society.

That quote, pretty much describes my worldview! Thanks!
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I like Ike. His quote pretty much describes my worldview too.
 
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