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Q for Trump supporters: If Trump had not been elected...

Q for Trump supporters: If Trump had not been elected... (see post #1)

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Since I didn't vote FOR Trump, but against Clinton, all I want is a decent candidate and absolutely none of the people running in any party was decent. Trump was just the least awful of the two that had any shot in hell of winning.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I'd rather have a good person who is interested in doing what is best for America than a person who only cares about himself and doing what is best for himself.

To me, "umpf" doesn't mean much, being a good person and a good president does. We don't have a good person and we don't have a good president right now, we have a selfish, immature, self-centered child as president right now.

I'd take John Kasich over Donald Trump in a heartbeat.
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Trump is trying to do what he thinks is best for the country. Look passed his rhetoric.
 
American said:
Trump is trying to do what he thinks is best for the country. Look passed his rhetoric.
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Nonsense, Trump is trying to do what is best for him. Inflaming a war over the NFL, claiming white supremacist marchers are "good people", tweeting endlessly about Muslims murdering but staying quiet about white men doing it is NOT what is best for the country. Trying to repeal Obamacare by taking away desired benefits and replacing with a system which costs the country more money is not what is good for America. Undermining news organizations which report on his own words and actions, just because he doesn't like the fact they are pointing out how terrible his words and actions are is not what is good for America. He is intentionally divisive, sometimes even instigating situations, just to fan the flames of his own dedicated voter base.

Trump is not doing what is best for America, he is doing what is best for himself.
 
Slyfox696 said:
I'm most definitely not a Trump supporter, but I found John Kasich to be the person I was most interested in. He seemed fairly moderate in the ways I want a President to be moderate, but most importantly, he was running a campaign about doing what was best for other people, not what was best for himself. You couldn't say that about either Trump or Clinton.

I know there would have been several issues on policy I probably would have disagreed with him, but at least our country would not have been embarrassed by him as President.
Neither was a childish imbecile, like our current President.

It's always amusing how so many simple minded people confuse courage and idiocy.
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I voted for Kasich in the GA primary. I had no plans for voting for him in any general election if he'd gotten the nomination. I just voted for him to take a vote away from Trump, and he was, by far, my favorite of the lot of them.
 
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tres borrachos said:
And I will criticize Trump for his own actions, and not blame the left or Democrats or Clinton or Bush or anyone for his irresponsible, ignorant, crude, callous, and unPresidential behavior.

That's what people who believe in personal responsibility actually do.
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Preach.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Nonsense, Trump is trying to do what is best for him. Inflaming a war over the NFL, claiming white supremacist marchers are "good people", tweeting endlessly about Muslims murdering but staying quiet about white men doing it is NOT what is best for the country. Trying to repeal Obamacare by taking away desired benefits and replacing with a system which costs the country more money is not what is good for America. Undermining news organizations which report on his own words and actions, just because he doesn't like the fact they are pointing out how terrible his words and actions are is not what is good for America. He is intentionally divisive, sometimes even instigating situations, just to fan the flames of his own dedicated voter base.

Trump is not doing what is best for America, he is doing what is best for himself.
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Honestly? I have to question what people are smoking, to not be able to see this. It's not fake news. It's not rabid liberal bias. It's right there, as clear as the nose on your face, yet people are saying it's not true. I just don't get it.
 
reinoe said:
It's an awkward question. Rand Paul was my #1 pick. Once he dropped out Trump was my GOP pick but Bernie was my preferred overall. I would easily have voted for Bernie Sanders but he didn't make it. Thanks to the Dems engaging in Sabotage my vote for Trump was easy because there's no way in hell I'd ever vote for Hillary.

Tangent: Despite my libertarian leanings, Johnson was out of the question. It wasn't his "what is Aleppo" that killed it for me...it was his blind and hardcore support of "FREE TRADE", which is not free trade at all.
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This might be the least intellectually consistent post I've ever seen in my entire life. A Libertarian, who hates free trade, and fully supported the least libertarian candidate, in the field, but settled for the second least libertarian in the field despite him being on the complete opposite of the spectrum from the first.

I'm going to go with misogyny as the driving factor behind your vote.
 
Superfly said:
Honestly? I have to question what people are smoking, to not be able to see this. It's not fake news. It's not rabid liberal bias. It's right there, as clear as the nose on your face, yet people are saying it's not true. I just don't get it.
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Word.
 
Not a Trump supporter in any way shape or form but I did vote Kasich in my state primary.
 
American said:
Trump is trying to do what he thinks is best for the country. Look passed his rhetoric.
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If he was actually trying to do what is best for the country then he wouldn't use such divisive rhetoric. He's intentionally using it to divide so that he can conquer. Divisiveness riles up the base and helps you win elections, but it makes governing virtually impossible because you burn too many bridges. You cannot unite the country while intentionally inflaming more than half of it. When you don't win the popular vote, you don't continue making enemies by staying in campaign mode.
 
Superfly said:
Honestly? I have to question what people are smoking, to not be able to see this. It's not fake news. It's not rabid liberal bias. It's right there, as clear as the nose on your face, yet people are saying it's not true. I just don't get it.
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It's not that they don't get it, it's that it is their team which is doing it. Too many people care far more about their team winning than they do about good government. They'd cut their conservative nose off just to spite their liberal face.
 
radcen said:
Q for Trump supporters: If Trump had not been elected...

...in 2016, who would you have preferred win and become President? Of the people who actually ran. Either as Plan A or as Plan B, doesn't matter.
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I did not vote for President Trump. I liked many of his plans, but disliked his rhetoric and did not believe he had solid core principles.

In the primary, I voted for Senator Ted Cruz.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Guess you should have added, Bernie Sanders to the poll. :lamo I mean, are Trump supporters really this uninformed? How is Bernie Sanders the next logical step after Trump? I don't get it.
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Just goes to show how, even now, the Trump haters are clueless as to why he won and why it was dumb to sabotage Bernie Sanders.
 
tres borrachos said:
And I will criticize Trump for his own actions, and not blame the left or Democrats or Clinton or Bush or anyone for his irresponsible, ignorant, crude, callous, and unPresidential behavior.

That's what people who believe in personal responsibility actually do.
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And there are plenty of people who were so disgusted with Hillary and the DNC that they would gladly take Trump, warts and all, over liberals overtly and outright cheating.
 
WCH said:
Voted for Cruz in the primary.
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I had to like this post partially because we agreed on the primaries, but rather for this:

32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
Matt. 10:32-33
 
Slyfox696 said:
I'd rather have a good person who is interested in doing what is best for America than a person who only cares about himself and doing what is best for himself.

To me, "umpf" doesn't mean much, being a good person and a good president does. We don't have a good person and we don't have a good president right now, we have a selfish, immature, self-centered child as president right now.

I'd take John Kasich over Donald Trump in a heartbeat.
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When the choice is between these two, I would also go for Kasich.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Guess you should have added, Bernie Sanders to the poll. :lamo I mean, are Trump supporters really this uninformed? How is Bernie Sanders the next logical step after Trump? I don't get it.
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If said supporter was less concerned with policy and more concerned with simply seeing a radical change from normal politics I’m washington, a Bernie supporter going Trump or vise versa make some plenty of sense. Not everyone who votes is actually partisan or focused on policy.
 
MrWonka said:
This might be the least intellectually consistent post I've ever seen in my entire life. A Libertarian, who hates free trade, and fully supported the least libertarian candidate, in the field, but settled for the second least libertarian in the field despite him being on the complete opposite of the spectrum from the first.

I'm going to go with misogyny as the driving factor behind your vote.
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Lol "Free Trade" and free trade are completely different things, and I didn't say I hate free trade. Did you miss the part where I said Rand Paul was my #1 pick? Yeah, and of course, as a leftists you immediately went with the "misogyny" to justify Hillary being a garbage candidate to justify your vapid comment. For "the least libertarian candidate" don't you think its amazing that Sanders and Rand were on the same side when it comes to free trade?
 
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Not a trump supporter so not actually voting

In order for me.

Christie
Paul
Rubio
Cruz
Kaisch
Bush

Would not have Voted for any of the others listed other than possibly Fiorina
 
Slyfox696 said:
I'd rather have a good person who is interested in doing what is best for America than a person who only cares about himself and doing what is best for himself.

To me, "umpf" doesn't mean much, being a good person and a good president does. We don't have a good person and we don't have a good president right now, we have a selfish, immature, self-centered child as president right now.

I'd take John Kasich over Donald Trump in a heartbeat.
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I'm with you, but unfortunately "umph" carries far more weight than it should. It's like a shiny button to many people.
 
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tres borrachos said:
And I will criticize Trump for his own actions, and not blame the left or Democrats or Clinton or Bush or anyone for his irresponsible, ignorant, crude, callous, and unPresidential behavior.

That's what people who believe in personal responsibility actually do.
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People (including Democrats, moderates, and independents) voted for him knowing he was crude, callous, unpresidential and could care less about being politically correct. They care more about results than they do about that stuff. I understand that even though I did not vote for him. The left is having a really, really hard time with it.
 
reinoe said:
And there are plenty of people who were so disgusted with Hillary and the DNC that they would gladly take Trump, warts and all, over liberals overtly and outright cheating.
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That's all well and fine, but that does not equate to Trump being a *good* option, nor does it justify how some people blindly defend him for even the dumbest incidents.
 
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