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What EXACTLY is Trump's Wall Supposed to do? Will Trump's Wall be successful?

Will Trump's Wall Be Successful?

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Moderate Right said:
There you go again with your rabid biased partisanship. No one's really been talking about the wall lately so why do you want to drudge it up again?
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It's one of the main reasons people voted for The Donald. Or has it come to the point where recent lies crowd out the older ones?
 
apdst said:
It's going to slow down illegal border crossings. Yes, it will work.
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So you are saying that the purpose of Trump's Wall is to slow down illegal border crossings? By how much? When? What will be the negative effects of Trump's Wall?

What is the definition of "...it will work"? Surely you can quantify that. By when and how much and how will it be measured?
 
countryboy said:
Someone once said, there are no stupid questions. They were wrong.
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Yeah, everyone knows The Wall has already done what it's supposed to do.
 
Risky Thicket said:
So you are saying that the purpose of Trump's Wall is to slow down illegal border crossings? By how much? When? What will be the negative effects of Trump's Wall?

What is the definition of "...it will work"? Surely you can quantify that. By when and how much and how will it be measured?
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Nothing is 100%, so we'll see how well it works.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5323928

"Here in San Diego, we have proven that the border infrastructure system does indeed work," Henry says. "It is highly effective."

Secure Fence Act of 2006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_200

In 2006, at the time it was passed, George W. Bush's White House touted the fence as "an important step toward immigration reform."[1] The White House Office of the Press Secretary stated that the Act "Authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing along our Southern border; Authorizes more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting to help prevent people from entering our country illegally; Authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to increase the use of advanced technology like cameras, satellites, and unmanned aerial vehicles to reinforce our infrastructure at the border."[1]

Where U.S.-Mexico border fence is tall, border crossings fall
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2008/0401/p01s05-usgn.html

"This wall works," says Mr. Bernacke. "A lot of people have the misconception that it is a waste of time and money, but the numbers of apprehensions show that it works."
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I'd like to discuss this further, but for now you seem to be the only proponent who has documented sources. Good on you for that.
 
apdst said:
Nothing is 100%, so we'll see how well it works.
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The horseshoes and hand grenade approach? No thanks. You just want to spend the money because, you know, it sounds good. :roll:
 
Risky Thicket said:
The horseshoes and hand grenade approach? No thanks. You just want to spend the money because, you know, it sounds good. :roll:
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DUI laws aren't 100%, either. Should we get rid of those? In fact, let's make murder legal, because the law doesn't prevent all murders.
 
Moderate Right said:
There you go again with your rabid biased partisanship. No one's really been talking about the wall lately so why do you want to drudge it up again?
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apdst said:
DUI laws aren't 100%, either. Should we get rid of those? In fact, let's make murder legal, because the law doesn't prevent all murders.
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Stop while you are behind, apdst. In your case it would be a wise move.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Stop while you are behind, apdst. In your case it would be a wise move.
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No, you oppose any anti-crime measure that isn't 100%. That means you basically want to get rid of all of them.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Trump's Wall continues to stumble and **** and creep forward. It has not been funded. I don't believe most Americans support it. Money is being spend, however.

Will Trump's Wall be successful?


What EXACTLY is it supposed to do? Where is the research and data that supports having a Wall? If you have it please post it. How and when will the effectiveness of Trump's Wall be measured against its stated goals?
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I support the building of anything that slows down illegals having access to the United States. I support a wall, fencing, border guards, e-verify and fining companies for hiring illegals, deportation, computer programs that track people who overstay their visas and anything else that works. As someone else said, I cannot predict the future with regards to this passing.

About the poll itself, I could not respond. God has nothing to do with this question. If the poll creator had simply offered a "Yes" I would have been able to answer.
 
LesGovt said:
I support the building of anything that slows down illegals having access to the United States. I support a wall, fencing, border guards, e-verify and fining companies for hiring illegals, deportation, computer programs that track people who overstay their visas and anything else that works. As someone else said, I cannot predict the future with regards to this passing.

About the poll itself, I could not respond. God has nothing to do with this question. If the poll creator had simply offered a "Yes" I would have been able to answer.
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:roll:


God told me to ask the question.
 
What EXACTLY is Trump's Wall Supposed to do?

Serve as the backdrop for a huge solid gold plaque telling Americans how wonderful and benevolent a president Trump has been.

Will Trump's Wall be successful?

It wont be contiguous, so no.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Rabid, biased partisanship? Explain and provide proof.

After you do that please return to the topic of the thread and tell us with documentation why Trump's Wall is necessary. What precisely is Trump's Wall going to accomplish and how and when its success will be measured?

I read this morning that Trump has now assigned 11 lawyers to begin private property along the border.
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All anyone has to do is read your poll and it's choices and it is very obvious that it was nothing but a biased piece of crap to begin with.
 
Grand Mal said:
It's one of the main reasons people voted for The Donald. Or has it come to the point where recent lies crowd out the older ones?
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No one has been talking about the wall at all lately. What's wrong? Not getting anywhere with all of your other anti-Trump stuff lately so you have to drudge up the wall?
 
Moderate Right said:
I always find it funny that you lefties have so little to offer that all you can do is post pictures, videos, gif's, and emogies.
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That's still a **** ton more that you ever contribute.
 
apdst said:
It's going to slow down illegal border crossings. Yes, it will work.
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The wall has become a metaphor for increased immigration enforcement. Won’t change much, except disrupt peoples’ lives. We need ignore the fact that we are addicted to cheap labor: African slaves, Irish, Italians, etc.... illegals are the new serfs

And, of course, there is the racial component. Trump rails against Jose with his leaf blower but ignores Gustav, the barista with the charming accent who came here on a visitor visa five years ago.
 
Moderate Right said:
No one has been talking about the wall at all lately. What's wrong? Not getting anywhere with all of your other anti-Trump stuff lately so you have to drudge up the wall?
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Well, it's being talked about again. And next up might be a reprise of "Repeal and Replace!" or "Lock her up!". Goes with the territory. Hell, we might drag out and dust off some old birther claims, just for sh*ts and giggles.
Sucks being in government when it's so easy to be in opposition, huh.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Trump's Wall continues to stumble and fart and creep forward. It has not been funded. I don't believe most Americans support it. Money is being spend, however.

Will Trump's Wall be successful?


What EXACTLY is it supposed to do? Where is the research and data that supports having a Wall? If you have it please post it. How and when will the effectiveness of Trump's Wall be measured against its stated goals?
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Keep Trump's name in the headlines.

They's saving some outlandish lies for when the Russia inquiry gets really hot
 
Risky Thicket said:
Trump's Wall continues to stumble and fart and creep forward. It has not been funded. I don't believe most Americans support it. Money is being spend, however.

Will Trump's Wall be successful?


What EXACTLY is it supposed to do? Where is the research and data that supports having a Wall? If you have it please post it. How and when will the effectiveness of Trump's Wall be measured against its stated goals?
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As you pointed out with your first question, there are no stated goals
 
Risky Thicket said:
What EXACTLY is it supposed to do?
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Placate his base and stroke his ego. There may also be side deals to enrich some of his monied political backers but those are secondary goals.
 
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