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Trump Says Putin ‘Means It’ About Not Meddling/ Do you trust to Putin´s words?

Do you trust to Putin´s words?


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I would have liked a third voting option.

Hell to the NO!
 
I would have liked a third voting option.

Hell to the NO!

Well if Trump is a member, we can tell by the Yes vote.
What a way to out him.
 
Well if Trump is a member, we can tell by the Yes vote.
What a way to out him.

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The Kremlin report of the meeting says they only discussed orphans. Did they lie, or did Trump?
 
YES and NO. I have reason to trust Putin.But I also have no reason to trust the people making the accusations of meddling.

No, not trusting the people making the accusations of meddling, and also not trusting Putin or Russia either.

That being said, its a fair point that it is to the US' advantage to have a good working relationship with Russia, along the lines of 'trust but verify', where the US and Russia share common interests.

The same way that it would be the US' disadvantage to not have a good working relationship with Russia; to return to the cold war footing in that relationship.

In the presidential debate between Obama and Romney, Romney had it right, Russia is the U.S.'s biggest geopolitical foe, Obama laughed it off. Quite a turn around between then and now.

I'd say that both are extremes, and that 'trust but verify' would be a position more between those two extremes, so a more centrist position.
 
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Trump Says Putin ‘Means It’ About Not Meddling/ Do you trust to Putin´s words?

Apparently, it depends on whether or not you are a proud member of the schizophrenic conservative mob today.

- Putin's a "commie," so...
- but Trump likes him, so...
- but Trump defies him over Syria's deadly flatulence attack on its citizens, so...
- but now Trump defends Putin, so...

By the way, Happy Veterans day to all vets....unless you were a prisoner durng World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq War, etc. I think we aren't supposed to like you now. "Support Selective Troops!"
 
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No, not trusting the people making the accusations of meddling, .
people? whats about all the USA institutions , from CIA to the Congress? whats about all USA´s closest allies like Governments of Germany, UK, France , etc. you are or Putin´s useful idiot , or a clinical fact-resistant freak

Why facts don't matter to Trump's supporters - The Washington Post
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Tweety Pie as we all know is a classic Warner Brothers cartoon...
" I taught I saw a putin cat."
 
people? whats about all the USA institutions , from CIA to the Congress? whats about all USA´s closest allies like Governments of Germany, UK, France , etc. you are or Putin´s useful idiot , or a clinical fact-resistant freak

I am neither "Putin´s useful idiot" nor do I trust Putin more than I could throw him. I don't trust the US Intelligence Community either. It's not as if they don't have a political agenda. They do have one.

I'm also not inclined to extreme measures when far less extreme measures are more likely to bring the needed and desired results.

Why facts don't matter to Trump's supporters - The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...4ece4a-5a78-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html


Scientists: Earth Endangered by New Strain of Fact-Resistant Humans ...
https://www.newyorker.com/.../scientists-earth-endangered-by-...

12 maj 2015 - Scientists have discovered a powerful new strain of fact-resistant humans who are ... The Weinstein Moment and the Trump Presidency.

4 aug. 2016 - How did Donald Trump win the Republican nomination, despite clear evidence that he had misrepresented or falsified key issues throughout ...
Fact resistant humans are the ones when continued claims that greater firearms restrictions on law abiding citizens would solve mass shootings when criminals and the mentally unstable don't observe those laws. Chicago and DC gun violence a prime example of this.
 
I am neither "Putin´s useful idiot" nor do I trust Putin more than I could throw him. I don't trust the US Intelligence Community either. It's not as if they don't have a political agenda. They do have one.

I'm also not inclined to extreme measures when far less extreme measures are more likely to bring the needed and desired results.


Fact resistant humans are the ones when continued claims that greater firearms restrictions on law abiding citizens would solve mass shootings when criminals and the mentally unstable don't observe those laws. Chicago and DC gun violence a prime example of this.
stop your creepy Fact-Resistant BS, its just pathetic . everyone knows Putler did it
"Timothy Snyder Speaks, Ep. 1: "Russia" Defeats America"
 
I am neither "Putin´s useful idiot" nor do I trust Putin more than I could throw him. I don't trust the US Intelligence Community either. It's not as if they don't have a political agenda. They do have one.

I'm also not inclined to extreme measures when far less extreme measures are more likely to bring the needed and desired results.


Fact resistant humans are the ones when continued claims that greater firearms restrictions on law abiding citizens would solve mass shootings when criminals and the mentally unstable don't observe those laws. Chicago and DC gun violence a prime example of this.

Don't forget Mexico. Gun laws are so strict that they have ONE gun store in the entire country.

If they can't use guns, they just use chainsaws, baseball bats and machetes.
 
"The US president, Donald Trump, said in a tweet on Sunday that North Korean leader Kim Jong-un had insulted him by calling him “old” and said he would never call Kim “short and fat”."
 
Don't forget Mexico. Gun laws are so strict that they have ONE gun store in the entire country.

If they can't use guns, they just use chainsaws, baseball bats and machetes.

Criminals will be criminals and do criminal acts. The gun, the baseball bat, the machete, those are just the tools of those criminal acts.
 
Trump Takes Putin's Word Over The US Intelligence Community...Again

President Donald Trump just sided with Russian President Vladimir Putin over the US intelligence community. That’s because in one of their conversations during an international summit in Vietnam, Putin denied that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election — and Trump bought it.

“He said he didn't meddle, he said he didn't meddle. I asked him again. You can only ask so many times,” Trump told reporters on Air Force One today. “Every time he sees me he says I didn't do that and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it.”

It’s remarkable enough that Trump openly admitted he just believed whatever Putin told him. It’s even more startling when you realize that in January, the FBI, CIA, and NSA clearly assessed that Russia did interfere in the election — and that Putin was behind it. Here’s part of that conclusion:

We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.

Trump also took the chance to go after former prominent intelligence and law enforcement officials who disagree with his Russia views.

"I mean, give me a break, they are political hacks," Trump said. "So you look at it, I mean, you have [former CIA Director John] Brennan, you have [former Director of National Intelligence James] Clapper and you have [former FBI Director Jim] Comey. Comey is proven now to be a liar and he is proven now to be a leaker. So you look at that and you have President Putin very strongly, vehemently says he had nothing to do with them."

This isn’t the first time Trump accepted Putin’s account about election interference. On July 7, the two men had a one-on-one meeting at the G20, a gathering of the world’s top 20 economies. There, Putin also denied Russia’s efforts to interfere in the election, and Trump reportedly took it at face value.

Trump and Putin weren’t scheduled to meet during the the forum, but it was always possible that they would run into each other. They shook hands at a dinner for leaders on Friday and stood next to each other during a leaders’s photo on Saturday.

Trump added that he’d now rather discuss issues like Syria and Ukraine with Putin, noting that every time he brings up the Russia issue, Putin is unhappy. “I think he is very insulted by it,” he said.

After Trump’s comments, others might feel insulted, too — especially members of the US intelligence community.

Trump undercuts the US intelligence community again
Trump has, at best, a complicated relationship with America’s spies.

He frequently attacked the intelligence community’s skills and integrity during both the campaign and the early months of his presidency. He dismisses any investigation into Russia’s meddling as a “hoax.” He has repeatedly mocked American intelligence officers for the mistaken conclusion that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, a rationale that paved the way for the 2003 invasion.

Trump has likened American spies to Nazis because he believed they leaked information about him.

And he spent part of his first full day in office at a memorial for the CIA’s fallen heroes attacking the media and lying about the size of his crowd at the inaugural.

However, Trump does like CIA Director Mike Pompeo — but that could be because Pompeo has no problem distorting Russia-related intelligence to in Trump’s favor. The CIA told me earlier this week that Pompeo stands by the January assessment. Pompeo is reportedly in consideration to become the next secretary of state.

So Trump doesn’t seem to trust the intelligence community. That’s his choice — but it’s concerning that he’ll trust Putin instead.

Trump chooses Putin's word over the US intelligence community — again

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