NerosGold
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I am now speaking for all decent workers who just want work, workers who have kids they need to feed, who aren't lazy, who don't want to go on public assistance and so on.
Many times, especially in manufaxcturing, these thriving and successful companies will no longer hire FT employees and will instead, opt for temps. They use temps up until they can legally no longer do so, throw said temp away and get another temp in.
Our economy has a lot of problems, the flood of illegal immigrants who will do work for $3 an hour vs $7.25 an hour is one that really hurts LEGAL Americans, but I shall give them a pass and the benefit of a doubt. Let's stay on topic here.
Many liberals have wanted to increase the minimum wage altogether, little did they know, companies would just cut everyone's hours if this occurs. I say we need to do something more worthwhile.
Ban temp and PT work altogether.
Look. If a business can't find SOMETHING for their workers to do for 8 hours, then they don't need to be in business.
Keeping workers perpetually part time or temp is inherently immoral. I don't care how relative you think morality is, but business should have at least some decency. Morality doesn't mean much in economics, sure, but keeping people working 4 or 5 hours a week for over 2+ years?!?
What planet do we live on?
Do you know what perpetual PT or TEMP work does to families?
But Conservatives are always talking about how they are for strong families. But men need bread to put on their family's table. How can you do that in any meaningful way w/ PT or TEMP work?
I worked fast food a few years back, and while I was waiting on my shift manager to return and give me some papers to sign. I was left alone in the OP room as it were. The room where all the accounting was done, where the money was stored. And I seen a list, a list of employees.
There were 30 ISH employees total, I looked at the hours. And only ONE person had anything over 40 hours a week. ONE. And that was a shift manager. The general manager who the shift manager reported to, even he was PT.
This is just glorified slave labor.
If we make a law that says businesses must promote PT or TEMPS after 2 years, they'll just work them to the bone until 2 years and let them go. Companies will ALWAYS find a loophole. Let's see them find a loophole in this.
Time to ban and outlaw TEMP and PART TIME work. 100%. Do away with it on the federal level.
Can you not see the immorality? These people had been here for years. 5 years and up. And yet, they're still getting paid PT.
Maybe they should get better jobs.
I agree.
Why not go work at a factory, oops, wait, I forgot. Mexico and China took those.
Why not open a business?
Ooops, I forgot, Obamacare (50 or more employees and you have to yadaydaydaya) regulations and regulations in general are crushing SMALL business in some areas of the country.
Well, why don't they just get another job?
What other job?
What pays FULL TIME anymore?
Few jobs.
Some engineers are TEMPs. Construction contractors won't deal with a fluent English speaker who happens to be born in America. Nope. They'll just get some Mexican who will do YOUR job for far less, and has far less rights. It's basic economics. Why pay me $8+ an hour when they can pay some illegal immigrant $2 or $4 an hour and boom.
The jobs growth report is a lie, the only growth in jobs has been in the service industry (fast food, retail) and even those are; part time.
We have to do something. I propose a complete banning and outlawing of part time and temp work FEDERALLY. I am usually for states rights, but should states have the right to dictate if they will allow slavery in their state? Exactly. We need to make this illegal nationwide and on a federal level.
I love the free market, sure I do. But I see it's not God. It's not perfect. Without some common sense government rule making, there will be widespread rule BREAKING.
Many times, especially in manufaxcturing, these thriving and successful companies will no longer hire FT employees and will instead, opt for temps. They use temps up until they can legally no longer do so, throw said temp away and get another temp in.
Our economy has a lot of problems, the flood of illegal immigrants who will do work for $3 an hour vs $7.25 an hour is one that really hurts LEGAL Americans, but I shall give them a pass and the benefit of a doubt. Let's stay on topic here.
Many liberals have wanted to increase the minimum wage altogether, little did they know, companies would just cut everyone's hours if this occurs. I say we need to do something more worthwhile.
Ban temp and PT work altogether.
Look. If a business can't find SOMETHING for their workers to do for 8 hours, then they don't need to be in business.
Keeping workers perpetually part time or temp is inherently immoral. I don't care how relative you think morality is, but business should have at least some decency. Morality doesn't mean much in economics, sure, but keeping people working 4 or 5 hours a week for over 2+ years?!?
What planet do we live on?
Do you know what perpetual PT or TEMP work does to families?
But Conservatives are always talking about how they are for strong families. But men need bread to put on their family's table. How can you do that in any meaningful way w/ PT or TEMP work?
I worked fast food a few years back, and while I was waiting on my shift manager to return and give me some papers to sign. I was left alone in the OP room as it were. The room where all the accounting was done, where the money was stored. And I seen a list, a list of employees.
There were 30 ISH employees total, I looked at the hours. And only ONE person had anything over 40 hours a week. ONE. And that was a shift manager. The general manager who the shift manager reported to, even he was PT.
This is just glorified slave labor.
If we make a law that says businesses must promote PT or TEMPS after 2 years, they'll just work them to the bone until 2 years and let them go. Companies will ALWAYS find a loophole. Let's see them find a loophole in this.
Time to ban and outlaw TEMP and PART TIME work. 100%. Do away with it on the federal level.
Can you not see the immorality? These people had been here for years. 5 years and up. And yet, they're still getting paid PT.
Maybe they should get better jobs.
I agree.
Why not go work at a factory, oops, wait, I forgot. Mexico and China took those.
Why not open a business?
Ooops, I forgot, Obamacare (50 or more employees and you have to yadaydaydaya) regulations and regulations in general are crushing SMALL business in some areas of the country.
Well, why don't they just get another job?
What other job?
What pays FULL TIME anymore?
Few jobs.
Some engineers are TEMPs. Construction contractors won't deal with a fluent English speaker who happens to be born in America. Nope. They'll just get some Mexican who will do YOUR job for far less, and has far less rights. It's basic economics. Why pay me $8+ an hour when they can pay some illegal immigrant $2 or $4 an hour and boom.
The jobs growth report is a lie, the only growth in jobs has been in the service industry (fast food, retail) and even those are; part time.
We have to do something. I propose a complete banning and outlawing of part time and temp work FEDERALLY. I am usually for states rights, but should states have the right to dictate if they will allow slavery in their state? Exactly. We need to make this illegal nationwide and on a federal level.
I love the free market, sure I do. But I see it's not God. It's not perfect. Without some common sense government rule making, there will be widespread rule BREAKING.