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How much time must go by before it's acceptable to talk about responses to mass violence?

How much time must go by before it's acceptable to talk about responses to mass violence?

  • Discussion should be ongoing, regardless new incidents.

    Votes: 17 68.0%

  • We should start talking immediately.

    Votes: 3 12.0%

  • Give it a day.

    Votes: 1 4.0%

  • 2-3 days, then have at it.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • A week needs to go by. Give time to reflect and heal.

    Votes: 1 4.0%

  • Talk is cheap. Stop wasting time. Get over it and move on.

    Votes: 3 12.0%
  • Total voters
    25
Lursa said:
I didnt really see alot of distinction between the first 2 poll options. Voted for 1 but agree with 2 also.

Let's face it....posting on the Internet is not the same as addressing friends or family of those affected, or actually having any influence on the incident.

Any claims of 'insensitivity' or 'decency' are seem rather 'snowflakey' to me unless they are derogatory about the victims.
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Whether it be the gun debate discussions or the the anti-muslim rhetoric that gets thrown around before the bodies are already cold and removed from the scene, before all the facts are in etc (to use just two examples), to engage in that type of behaviour is beyond derogatory to the victims. They are no longer victims in those peoples eyes, they couldn't give a crap. They are just pawns to be used whilst they push their political/personal views.
 
TurtleDude said:
I don't think any rental company stopped renting trucks.
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NY area truck rental have been on alert by NYPD for what to look for. Per NYPD. This guy had a truck license.
 
Serenity said:
Whether it be the gun debate discussions or the the anti-muslim rhetoric that gets thrown around before the bodies are already cold and removed from the scene, before all the facts are in etc (to use just two examples), to engage in that type of behaviour is beyond derogatory to the victims. They are no longer victims in those peoples eyes, they couldn't give a crap. They are just pawns to be used whilst they push their political/personal views.
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So what did you vote in the poll?
 
Rogue Valley said:
With the 24/7 news cycle, it's impossible to put a mass-violence incident on some back burner.
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That's a good point. Whilst the technology we have available now can be amazing, there certainly are some negatives associated with that. People are hearing about incidents being shared on their social media outlets in real time, as they are unfolding.

I've been at accident scenes and other incidents where we've needed to attend to patients and then friends/family members have arrived on the scene after hearing about it on social media. It's not good. News travels so fast.
 
Lursa said:
So what did you vote in the poll?
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Nothing. There's not a suitable option for my thoughts which are

Once all of the victims have been accounted for, identified and their families/loved ones have been informed and when some actual facts of what eventuated are released.

Absolutely not when they are still laying dead on the ground with a sheet thrown casually over them which is what we saw in images within a few hours yesterday.
 
I don't have a problem with discussions concerning a mass shooting immediately after they happen. In fact, we should be talking about ways to prevent these things from happening on a regular basis, not just when they occur.

What frustrates me is when the situation gets kicked around like a political football and all the finger pointing begins. If we stick with the "Who, What, When, Where, How and Why", we should be able to keep the focus squarely on the issue at hand and not dovetail onto other outlier issues.
 
Serenity said:
Nothing. There's not a suitable option for my thoughts which are

Once all of the victims have been accounted for, identified and their families/loved ones have been informed and when some actual facts of what eventuated are released.

Absolutely not when they are still laying dead on the ground with a sheet thrown casually over them which is what we saw in images within a few hours yesterday.
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Thank you for the honest answer.
 
Talk is cheap and action needs to take place. I agree with the president on stronger vetting and a merit system on immigration. Diversity is tearing this country apart.
 
Cephus said:
No it's not, violent crime is the lowest it's been in the U.S. in decades. We probably live in the safest country we ever have.
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Have you ever looked at our violent crime rate in comparison with other western nations? If you had, you'd realize our rate of homicide is about 5-10X as high as those other countries.

Is that acceptable to you?

Egypt, India, even Rwanda has a lower rate of homicide per capita than we do.
 
pillars said:
Have you ever looked at our violent crime rate in comparison with other western nations? If you had, you'd realize our rate of homicide is about 5-10X as high as those other countries.

Is that acceptable to you?

Egypt, India, even Rwanda has a lower rate of homicide per capita than we do.
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Just have to ask but would you want to live in Egypt, India or Rwanda? Or in the United States?
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Just have to ask but would you want to live in Egypt, India or Rwanda? Or in the United States?
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I would like to live in an America that is safer than ****ing Rwanda.

Also, your post is a logical fallacy called a false dichotomy.
 
pillars said:
I would like to live in an America that is safer than ****ing Rwanda.

Also, your post is a logical fallacy called a false dichotomy.
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No it's a reasonable question because we both know that living in the United states even with a higher murder rate is 100% better than any of the named countries.
 
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