View Poll Results: Have the extremes fully taken over?

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    Re: Have the extremes fully taken over?

    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Well my point is for the whole country and once more getting rid of gerrymandering would be a net gain for the democrats by considerable number,
    Not sure facts back that up but if something is out there I am willing to listen. As I said my state is about 60/40 democratic, yet dems have every house seat in the state. Go to proportional allocation of seats by state not sure what the net change would be. This would probably help the true independent parties to be represented in congress.

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    Re: Have the extremes fully taken over?

    Quote Originally Posted by ryzorsden View Post
    He was a constitutional law professor at one of the best schools in the nation. He's got more IQ in his pinky than W and Trump ever had.
    no he was not, he was a lecturer (not tenure track professor) at U of chicago. You are right -UC is in the same league as Columbia, Duke, UPenn, Cornell and NYU, and in terms of an academic law school it's often seen as #2 behind Yale. (some top law schools-such as Cornell and NYU really stress producing top attorneys, while Yale and Chicago tend to concentrate on turning out top flight legal scholars)

    I have no idea what Obama's IQ is. I don't believe he is as talented as Clinton, Nixon or GHWB but I believe he is bit more gifted than Reagan or Trump. I think W is the joker in that deck. Obama tries to come off as an intellectual while W did everything to pretend he wasn't.
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    Re: Have the extremes fully taken over?

    The extremes are the loudest and most often heard but money is what has taken over politics and remains the driving force. We allow ourselves to think those we elect represent the people when truth is they actually represent the highest bidder not the average voter.
    "Let us neither express, nor cherish, any harsh feeling towards any citizen who, by his vote, has differed with us. Let us at all times remember that all American citizens are brothers of a common country, and should dwell together in the bonds of fraternal feeling." - Abraham Lincoln

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    I cannot understand how anyone can consider any Democrat in government to be radical or extreme. The right though has become the John Birch Society which at one time was considered extreme even by conservatives. This false equivalency game needs to be exposed for what it is, total bull. There are no radical liberal officials in positions of power today in the federal government. All they are trying to do is defend what has been our way of life since FDR.
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    Re: Have the extremes fully taken over?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no he was not, he was a lecturer (not tenure track professor) at U of chicago. You are right -UC is in the same league as Columbia, Duke, UPenn, Cornell and NYU, and in terms of an academic law school it's often seen as #2 behind Yale. (some top law schools-such as Cornell and NYU really stress producing top attorneys, while Yale and Chicago tend to concentrate on turning out top flight legal scholars)

    I have no idea what Obama's IQ is. I don't believe he is as talented as Clinton, Nixon or GHWB but I believe he is bit more gifted than Reagan or Trump. I think W is the joker in that deck. Obama tries to come off as an intellectual while W did everything to pretend he wasn't.
    You can go ahead and discredit Obama as an intellectual all you want. His credentials are there. You are foolish for even attempting.

    But it's ok, right leaning people tend to discount intellectuals because they couldn't even get a job as a janitor at the schools Obama attended and taught at, let alone even get accepted to attend.

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    Re: Have the extremes fully taken over?

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Not sure facts back that up but if something is out there I am willing to listen. As I said my state is about 60/40 democratic, yet dems have every house seat in the state. Go to proportional allocation of seats by state not sure what the net change would be. This would probably help the true independent parties to be represented in congress.
    I tend to agree with you. While I am a staunch Democrat in a state that is flooded wiht democrats, there are still quite a few Republicans that do not get their say in things.

    I break it down like this:

    Democrats in Texas deserve a say equal to the amount of people vote for Democrats, and Republicans in New York deserve a saw equal to their votes.

    Unfortunately, with our national, statewide, and local system of governments, it's impossible for a truly fair system.

    Get rid of the electoral college, proportional allocations in state legislature, and ranked voting.

    THen you will see a dramatic change in who is in office.

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    Re: Have the extremes fully taken over?

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Not sure facts back that up but if something is out there I am willing to listen. As I said my state is about 60/40 democratic, yet dems have every house seat in the state. Go to proportional allocation of seats by state not sure what the net change would be. This would probably help the true independent parties to be represented in congress.
    what would you expect from a state that is 60% democrats. Elected officials from that group would generally be all progressive then. It only counts by the number of each group votes, as it should be.

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    Re: Have the extremes fully taken over?

    Quote Originally Posted by ryzorsden View Post
    I tend to agree with you. While I am a staunch Democrat in a state that is flooded wiht democrats, there are still quite a few Republicans that do not get their say in things.

    I break it down like this:

    Democrats in Texas deserve a say equal to the amount of people vote for Democrats, and Republicans in New York deserve a saw equal to their votes.

    Unfortunately, with our national, statewide, and local system of governments, it's impossible for a truly fair system.

    Get rid of the electoral college, proportional allocations in state legislature, and ranked voting.

    THen you will see a dramatic change in who is in office.
    get rid of the electoral college, then it's up to the responsibility of the voters as it should be.

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    Re: Have the extremes fully taken over?

    Quote Originally Posted by ryzorsden View Post
    I agree 100%. Most of the Trump voting scum are people who, quite frankly, aren't capable of contributing to society. I hate to say this, but places in PA, MI, OH, and Wisconsin are just never going to be economically viable. Those people need to move to places that are and try their hand in the game they call life. Instead of coming out of the woodwork to vote for this scum of a president we have.

    They need to go back under their rocks, and stay there.
    There are republicans that don't want to work and get all the free government programs too.They are just as good as the liberals

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    Re: Have the extremes fully taken over?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vadinho View Post
    I cannot understand how anyone can consider any Democrat in government to be radical or extreme. The right though has become the John Birch Society which at one time was considered extreme even by conservatives. This false equivalency game needs to be exposed for what it is, total bull. There are no radical liberal officials in positions of power today in the federal government. All they are trying to do is defend what has been our way of life since FDR.
    So no "Democrat in government" is "radical or extreme" because they just "defend what has been our way of life since FDR?" I would have to say that view is pretty extreme.

    Debbie Wasserman Schultz: “Scott Walker has given women the back of his hand. I know that is stark. That is direct. But that is reality. What Republican tea party extremists like Scott Walker are doing is they are grabbing us by the hair and pulling us back. It is not going to happen on our watch.”

    Barbara Lee: Called for a $26 minimum wage so that “people . . . could afford to live in areas now where they cannot afford to live” and “you would increase diversity in certain communities where you don’t have diversity anymore. You would have economic parity.”

    Bernie Sanders: Said the VA provides “very high quality health care, period” and that the shocking scandals surrounding it were traceable to “a concerted effort to undermine the VA” led by the “Koch Brothers and others, who want to radically change the nature of society.”

    Do I really have to mention the antics of Rashida Tlaib and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

    There is enough radical and extreme coming from Democrats and Republicans to choke a camel.
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