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Which nation poses the greatest threat to American intersts?

Which nation poses the greatest threat to American interests?

  • The People's Republic of China

    Votes: 12 19.4%

  • The Russian Federation

    Votes: 20 32.3%

  • The Islamic Republic of Iran

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • The Democratic People's Republic of Korea

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • A non-state actor (Terrorist organizations like ISIS) pose the greatest threat

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Kazakhstan! Those scheming little bastards...

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Other (Please explain)

    Votes: 25 40.3%
  • Total voters
    62
Rogue Valley said:
Russia is definitely the most threatening nation currently.

China will perhaps be a greater menace in the future. It depends on how numerous geopolitical aspects play out.
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It would take a paradigm shift/dramatic upheaval in the current state of the world for China to somehow not ultimately prove a greater threat to US interests than Russia given the numbers/economics/geopolitics as they stand and their trajectories. Even if I were to accept that Russia is the current greatest threat in the immediate present, and I agree the case can certainly be made, it simply doesn't have the staying power and prospects to remain so vis a vis China.
 
How is China or Russia any different than the US? We demand hegemony over this part of the world, and oppose any interference in our domain. We would not countenance a Mexican alliance with China, or Canada with Russia. We would never allow Chinese control of the Panama Canal. China resents American dominance in what they consider their rightful sphere of influence in the East, yet we ally with any countries we can right on their border if possible. We do the same with Eastern Europe vis a vis Russia. We are the threat to both of these great powers, in their views.
 
Surrealistik said:
It would take a paradigm shift/dramatic upheaval in the current state of the world for China to somehow not ultimately prove a greater threat to US interests than Russia given the numbers/economics/geopolitics as they stand and their trajectories. Even if I were to accept that Russia is the current greatest threat in the immediate present, and I agree the case can certainly be made, it simply doesn't have the staying power and prospects to remain so vis a vis China.
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The Poll didn't specify time frame which is why I replied as I did.
 
Russia beat out China by a small margin
 
trouble13 said:
The American left

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Yep, partisan hackery at work folks.

"People who don't agree with me politically are literally worse than North Korea!"
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Which of the above nation-states represents the greatest threat to American interests, in your mind?
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American partisans

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Waddy said:
We are our own worst enemy.

We get the Iranians pissed off in the first place by deposing a democratically elected leader and prop up the Shah to secure our interests.

The Soviet Union allows freedom to Eastern Europe and we immediately try to enroll them all in NATO, an organization antagonistic to Russia.

Question; does anyone here know the geography of Russia? While we sit here dumb and happy with two great oceans protecting us and peaceful countries to the north and south, the invasion route into Russia is one big highway.

How would we like it if Mexico and Canada signed up for membership in a reconstituted Warsaw Pact? Crap, we went ape shyte crazy when the Russians put missiles in Cuba; threw up a blockade and starting digging bomb shelters. At that same time we had missiles right next door to Russia in Turkey.

Quit being so Amercentric; try to see the world from the other guys point of view.
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Lol what the ****? Are you serious?

The Soviet Union forcibly took over Eastern Europe and brutally imposed tyrannical regimes there for decades. Eastern Europe had every reason they want protection from Russia. And the rapidly collapsing USSR didn't have much in the way of a choice, otherwise they never would have.

A "highway which has proven impenetrable by invaders for going on two centuries now.

If the US had aided in propping up tyrannical regimes in Mexico and Canada which slaughtered thousands of innocents over the years, then no one could honestly not understand the motives for Mexico and Canada wanting protection.
 
Other;

USA.

Self destruction is something the rest of us see as likely all the time for you lot.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Yep, partisan hackery at work folks.

"People who don't agree with me politically are literally worse than North Korea!"
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Untrue, I don't mind people disagreeing. I mind how they behave in reaction to their disagreements. The left engages in a scorched earth, win at all costs policy that is destructive to a healthy society.

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Jredbaron96 said:
Which of the above nation-states represents the greatest threat to American interests, in your mind?
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Which nation has been at war 90 % of the tTime since its inception?
And bombed 200 ? Countries?
And overthrew a dem elected Iran gov?
We ran out of N Korean cities to flatten/bomb in the war.
And we don't trust them?
 
I voted other. There are no credible threats to American interests.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Lol what the ****? Are you serious?

The Soviet Union forcibly took over Eastern Europe and brutally imposed tyrannical regimes there for decades. Eastern Europe had every reason they want protection from Russia. And the rapidly collapsing USSR didn't have much in the way of a choice, otherwise they never would have.

A "highway which has proven impenetrable by invaders for going on two centuries now.

If the US had aided in propping up tyrannical regimes in Mexico and Canada which slaughtered thousands of innocents over the years, then no one could honestly not understand the motives for Mexico and Canada wanting protection.
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And we committed genocide against Native Americans, fought a War with Mexico to take further territory, and we blame another great power for wanting secure borders? Arrogance.
 
Waddy said:
And we committed genocide against Native Americans, fought a War with Mexico to take further territory, and we blame another great power for wanting secure borders? Arrogance.
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"Secure borders" my ass. Rolling into the Baltic States and trying to pick on Finland, among a multitude of other sins, had nothing to do with secure borders.

Far more native americans died of disease than were killed by Europeans.
 
YorkshirePete said:
Which nation has been at war 90 % of the tTime since its inception?
And bombed 200 ? Countries?
And overthrew a dem elected Iran gov?
We ran out of N Korean cities to flatten/bomb in the war.
And we don't trust them?
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Perhaps countries should stop invading their neighbors, launching waves of atrocities against their own people and generally committing war crimes if they don't want to be bombed.
 
Kreton said:
It sucks when people get in the way of your hate doesnt it?
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That sounds like what supporters of Black Lies Matter and Antifa terrorist group would say.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Which of the above nation-states represents the greatest threat to American interests, in your mind?
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Americans pose the greatest threat to American interests.
 
American said:
That sounds like what supporters of Black Lies Matter and Antifa terrorist group would say.
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The appeal of "Jews will not replace us", "Blood and soil", "Russia is our friend." A much bigger threat than opponents of systemic racism, xenophobia, Nazism, fascism, Russian oligarchs, Islamophobia.
 
Tigerace117 said:
"Secure borders" my ass. Rolling into the Baltic States and trying to pick on Finland, among a multitude of other sins, had nothing to do with secure borders.

Far more native americans died of disease than were killed by Europeans.
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read your history; disease was used as a weapon of war to eradicate Native Americans. Party of the agreement when the USSR let Eastern Europe go was that they stay neutral. The US has been trying ever since to change that. But you keep thinking Amercentric about the larger world.
 
Waddy said:
read your history; disease was used as a weapon of war to eradicate Native Americans. Party of the agreement when the USSR let Eastern Europe go was that they stay neutral. The US has been trying ever since to change that. But you keep thinking Amercentric about the larger world.
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I have, and frankly there is little to no evidence that "diseased blankets" was more than an urban legend. We have one vaguely worded letter from a British officer. That's it. Frankly, that barely counts as evidence, much less historical fact.


I hate to break it to you, the Eastern Europeans had no obligation to do anything their former oppressor, who oversaw thousands of killings of their people, said.

And you keep trying to justify Russian expansionism. Gee, I wonder why?
 
Tigerace117 said:
I have, and frankly there is little to no evidence that "diseased blankets" was more than an urban legend. We have one vaguely worded letter from a British officer. That's it. Frankly, that barely counts as evidence, much less historical fact.


I hate to break it to you, the Eastern Europeans had no obligation to do anything their former oppressor, who oversaw thousands of killings of their people, said.

And you keep trying to justify Russian expansionism. Gee, I wonder why?
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Here's some further reading for you;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativ...#Disease_as_a_weapon_against_Native_Americans

I agree with you that the former Soviet Union committed great crimes. Most empires do. But no major power will stand still for letting their perceived enemy control their border regions. It's seen, correctly, as a provocation. Your comment about eastern European countries thumbing their noses at Russia is quaint, but hardly historically a good policy. We wouldn't stand for missiles in Cuba, threw up that blockade, and built fallout shelters. We attempted to assassinate Castro several times, and even invaded Cuba. Just goes to show we are willing to go to any length, including nuclear war, in order to retain our hegemony.
 
The US poses the greatest threat to US interest sadly. The way the US is now presided over with Trump makes for a far greater threat to US interests than China, North Korea or any other country could ever pose to the US. At least that is my opinion.
 
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