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Is it hypocritical?

Are they hypocrites?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 46.7%

  • No

    Votes: 8 53.3%
  • Total voters
    15
This is a joke right? i watch many Yankee games on TV & the idea of standing & putting your hand on on your heart while listening
to the anthem at home or in a sports bar is ridiculous. I guess I've been to 20 or so games at stadiums in my time & when the anthem is played
I always stand and respect the flag. It's two entirely different scenarios. I suspect the most patriotic never stand for the anthem at a bar
or at home.

The most patriotic people I ever saw were was when I was in college in the 60's and when the band was practicing before a football
game and played 'Dixie' and I was in the library studying other students would quit studying and stand for the playing of Dixie.
I was from NJ going to school in the south and was amazed. That's dedication it wasn't eben during the game it they were standing
even during the practice of the song.
 
Kreton said:
Posted this in another thread but thought it would make an interesting poll:


I was at a sports bar this weekend and the game was starting anthem came on. I heard at least a dozen people sit there, while the anthem was playing, bitching about playing kneeling.

Sitting there, drinking beer, scratching their nuts, while the anthem played complaining that people aren't standing with their hands over their hearts or saluting while the anthem was playing.

Thinking back to watching games, superbowls ect over the years, I have friends who sit and eat chicken wings and chips through the national anthem, but are genuinely outraged that others do it.

Now I do believe that the vast majority of people upset about this sit through the anthem when large crowds of people aren't watching so the question here is, are there people hypocrites?
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In certain circles, this is what is referred to as....A CLUE. ;)
 
apdst said:
You were there?
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Yes. There were hundreds of American flags. You could barely see the tv because of all the flags. I had stars and stripes permanently imprinted on my vision for the next week.
 
slick said:
This is a joke right? i watch many Yankee games on TV & the idea of standing & putting your hand on on your heart while listening
to the anthem at home or in a sports bar is ridiculous. I guess I've been to 20 or so games at stadiums in my time & when the anthem is played
I always stand and respect the flag. It's two entirely different scenarios. I suspect the most patriotic never stand for the anthem at a bar
or at home.

The most patriotic people I ever saw were was when I was in college in the 60's and when the band was practicing before a football
game and played 'Dixie' and I was in the library studying other students would quit studying and stand for the playing of Dixie.
I was from NJ going to school in the south and was amazed. That's dedication it wasn't eben during the game it they were standing
even during the practice of the song.
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What is the difference? Why is it disrespectful to sit if you are at a game, and ok to sit if you aren't? It is the same anthem.
 
eselement said:
As someone else said, there's a huge difference between live and on TV. The whole point of standing for the anthem is the public display of conformity. I need to see others displaying their patriotism and I need to be seen showing mine. Right before I get drunk and watch this ridiculous game being played by adults and possibly get in a fight with my fellow Americans who are wearing the wrong jersey. It's all very unifying.
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So it is not about actually showing respect for anything, just the perception of it so you look good in front of others.

Sounds hypocritical to me.
 
Kreton said:
Posted this in another thread but thought it would make an interesting poll:


I was at a sports bar this weekend and the game was starting anthem came on. I heard at least a dozen people sit there, while the anthem was playing, bitching about playing kneeling.

Sitting there, drinking beer, scratching their nuts, while the anthem played complaining that people aren't standing with their hands over their hearts or saluting while the anthem was playing.

Thinking back to watching games, superbowls ect over the years, I have friends who sit and eat chicken wings and chips through the national anthem, but are genuinely outraged that others do it.

Now I do believe that the vast majority of people upset about this sit through the anthem when large crowds of people aren't watching so the question here is, are there people hypocrites?
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Time and place and reason for everything? Right? Sitting there massaging your scrotum during the anthem isn't a form of protest. Turning around and mooning the flag might be, depending how inebriated the person is.
 
Kreton said:
Is the national anthem only super uber sacred and not to be toyed with if a flag is flying in the bar?

To anser your question, I don't know. Maybe. I didn't look. Probably one on the screen though.
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Was the tv muted?
 
apdst said:
That's what I thought.
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So now that you know that there were American flags everywhere and the bartenders were dressed like George Washington, what did you have to contribute to this thread?
 
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It's one thing to not stand or salute when the anthem is being sung, lots of people don't. It's quite another thing when some people make a point of their hatred for the anthem, the flag, or what America stands for. Then it becomes an act of protest which is their right, but I wonder why they stay in America if they hate it so much?
 
It's dumb, but I don't think it's necessarily hypocritical. Your typical American has a very fragile patriotism. It's about showing respect but the emphasis is on SHOW. You could be a member of ISIS but as long as you stand that's the important thing.
 
apdst said:
Was the tv muted?
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Some were muted, some weren't. So now that you know that, what do you have to contribute to this thread?
 
Former GOP said:
Then it becomes an act of protest which is their right, but I wonder why they stay in America if they hate it so much??
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Uh, because they don't hate America. You know how I know? Because that's what they ****ing SAID. It's clearly not about hatred of the flag, the troops, the country. They have insisted without exception and quite vocally that they do not hate America. Insisting otherwise won't make it true.
 
americanwoman said:
Not for those people who claim to stand every single time they hear the national anthem or say that people who don't stand every single time are trash. They don't differentiate.
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That's why I just never do, for 5 decades now.
 
apdst said:
Were you there?
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For the second time, yes. There were about a thousand American flags flying in a gentle breeze created by one of the doors being open, All the bartenders were dressed like the founding fathers, some of the tvs were unmuted, an American eagle was perched behind the bar. Oh, and my mom was making an apple pie. It tasted like freedom.

So now that you know all that, what do you have to contribute to this thread?
 
Cardinal said:
For the second time, yes. There were about a thousand American flags flying in a gentle breeze created by one of the doors being open, All the bartenders were dressed like the founding fathers, some of the tvs were unmuted, an American eagle was perched behind the bar. Oh, and my mom was making an apple pie. It tasted like freedom.

So now that you know all that, what do you have to contribute to this thread?
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Again, that's what I thought.
 
Lovebug said:
Time and place and reason for everything? Right? Sitting there massaging your scrotum during the anthem isn't a form of protest. Turning around and mooning the flag might be, depending how inebriated the person is.
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From what I am seeing and hearing is you stand for the national anthem. No question. Adding in the "protest" is not the question here. No one that I can tell says there is anything wrong with the protest. The problem is it is disrespectful to fail to stand during the national anthem.

Or are you suggesting that it is ok and not disrespectful to everything to sit as long as you don't mention that you hate racism while doing it?
 
apdst said:
Again, that's what I thought.
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Agreed. It was a pretty standard sports bar. So now that you know all that, were the people in the bar hypocrites?
 
Former GOP said:
It's one thing to not stand or salute when the anthem is being sung, lots of people don't. It's quite another thing when some people make a point of their hatred for the anthem, the flag, or what America stands for. Then it becomes an act of protest which is their right, but I wonder why they stay in America if they hate it so much?
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Many people believe that what America stands for is freedom, tolerance, and equality. Which when one or more of those things are being threatened, or even perceived as being threatened it brings at a minimum, protest.

And by that logic wouldn't it stand to reason that the people who are violating the actual principles and foundations of our country are the ones who are disrespecing our troops and country? Even more so than the people who failing to stand up for a symbol of those? To me, and maybe I am crazy, but to me it is far worse to violate actual values than a symbol of those values. Values > symbols. Our troops dont fight for a symbol, they fight and stand up for the things that symbol represents.
 
Cardinal said:
For the second time, yes. There were about a thousand American flags flying in a gentle breeze created by one of the doors being open, All the bartenders were dressed like the founding fathers, some of the tvs were unmuted, an American eagle was perched behind the bar. Oh, and my mom was making an apple pie. It tasted like freedom.

So now that you know all that, what do you have to contribute to this thread?
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This made me laugh far more than it should have.
 
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