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Will Republican Health Care pass by 30 Sept?

Will Republican Health Care pass by 30 Sept?

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Cassidy-Graham looks dead. GOP Senators John McCain, Rand Paul, Susan Collins are solid no votes and possibly Lisa Murkowski also.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Cassidy-Graham looks dead. GOP Senators John McCain, Rand Paul, Susan Collins are solid no votes and possibly Lisa Murkowski also.
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It looks dead, but it ain't dead. McConnell and Trump are doing everything in their power to push this through, and they still have seven days to do it.
 
Redress said:
But that is not how you are using it...
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It is how I am using it.No actual republican is for tax payer funded medicine.Nor are they for forcing people to buy health insurance they don't want. But yet the republicans who insist on changing the name of Obama care or making it Obama care lite are RINOs.
 
Cardinal said:
It looks dead, but it ain't dead. McConnell and Trump are doing everything in their power to push this through, and they still have seven days to do it.
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I think Rand Paul and John McCain are solid no's. It is possible for Collins and Murkowski to be bribed with larger Federal block-grants for their states.

As always, the elephant in the room is covering people with past/future 'preexisting' conditions.

The Cassidy-Graham bill leaves this up to each state, but with 34 states losing various % of federal block-grant money (2020-2026) most states would have to drop this essential healthcare benefit.

What Cassidy-Graham actually does, is transform 1 federal healthcare debate into 50 separate state healthcare debates.
 
Rogue Valley said:
I think Rand Paul and John McCain are solid no's. It is possible for Collins and Murkowski to be bribed with larger Federal block-grants for their states.

As always, the elephant in the room is covering people with past/future 'preexisting' conditions.

The Cassidy-Graham bill leaves this up to each state, but with 34 states losing various % of federal block-grant money (2020-2026) most states would have to drop this essential healthcare benefit.

What Cassidy-Graham actually does, is transform 1 federal healthcare debate into 50 separate state healthcare debates.
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What you should be more nervous about is that Republicans are nakedly aware that they only want the bill to pass for political reasons that have nothing to do with the good of the people. They're being openly evil about it, and that should worry everybody.
 
Cardinal said:
What you should be more nervous about is that Republicans are nakedly aware that they only want the bill to pass for political reasons that have nothing to do with the good of the people. They're being openly evil about it, and that should worry everybody.
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The GOP wants REPEAL. Period.

They don't give a hot damn what transpires after REPEAL.
 
Rogue Valley said:
The GOP wants REPEAL. Period.

They don't give a hot damn what transpires after REPEAL.
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Yes, that's my point. They a)don't give a hot damn about the impact of the bill, and b)they're extremely motivated to pass it. These next seven days may be nail-biting.
 
As I understand it, the GOP received support from the black community and the poor until the mid-1930's. If the Republican Party introduced universal government health care such as we have in Saskatchewan, they would likely recapture that vote and keep the Democrats out of government for generations. the program could be financed by diverting money from the bloated defence budget. The only nations in a position to invade the U.S. are Mexico and Canada. For the rest, you can still maintain the current nuclear deterrent.
In Saskatchewan, we pay no premiums, there are no concerns about pre-existing conditions, and it works pretty well. There are sometimes wait times for elective procedures but we don't have $400 billion to fund it. (And we have a right-wing conservative Provincial government.)
 
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Cardinal said:
Yes, that's my point. They a)don't give a hot damn about the impact of the bill, and b)they're extremely motivated to pass it. These next seven days may be nail-biting.
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Many folks - including me - will be on tenterhooks until September 30.
 
Murkowski is still not a no. She's "reviewing the details."
 
Ted Cruz(yes, that Ted Cruz) has come out against it. Not going to pass without a major overhaul, and almost certainly not at all.

Trump's reaction: fire football players and stay away basketball players...don't look at my latest failure.
 
Redress said:
Ted Cruz(yes, that Ted Cruz) has come out against it. Not going to pass without a major overhaul, and almost certainly not at all.

Trump's reaction: fire football players and stay away basketball players...don't look at my latest failure.
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Here is a link to that article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...p-table-main_pp-collins-1020am:homepage/story

The floundering Republican attempt to undo the Affordable Care Act met hardening resistance from key GOP senators Sunday that left it on the verge of collapsing, even as advocates vowed to keep pushing for a vote this week.

With Senate GOP leaders just one “no” vote away from defeat, Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) said in a TV interview that it was “very difficult” to envision voting for the bill written by Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.). Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) said he and a colleague were not ready to back the measure. And Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who has come out against it, showed no signs of backing down in his own TV appearance.

“It is very difficult for me to envision a scenario where I would end up voting for this bill,” Collins said. “I have a number of serious reservations about it.”
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This week is going to be ****ing agonizing.
 
I'd be surprised if they exempt alaska from the trumpcare. It's like the Louisiana purchase when obamacare passed.
 
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