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What should happen to these nurses?

What should happen to these nurses?

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Cephus said:
They should be terminated but nothing else needs to happen. They've effectively ended their own careers, nobody is going to hire them after what they've done.
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Older story but I doubt much has changed
https://www.propublica.org/article/troubled-nurses-skip-from-state-to-state-under-compact

The ease of Peske’s move illustrates significant gaps in regulatory efforts nationwide to keep nurses from avoiding the consequences of misconduct by hopping across state lines.

The two states in which Peske worked are part of a 24-state compact created to help get good nurses to areas where they are needed most. Under the decade-old partnership, a license obtained in a nurse’s home state allows access to work in the other compact states.

But an investigation by ProPublica found that the pact also has allowed nurses with records of misconduct to put patients in jeopardy.

In some cases, nurses have retained clean multistate licenses after at least one compact state had banned them. They have ignored their patients’ needs, stolen their pain medication, forgotten crucial tests or missed changes in their condition, records show.

Critics say the compact may actually multiply the risk to patients. There is no central licensing for the compact, so policing nurses is left to the vigilance of member states.
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RetiredUSN said:
Damn right it's abuse. C'mon Jog!

Get the hell out of the medical field if the dignity of your patients is not a concern to you.
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It is not the dignity.

The babies arms are not fused with the shoulder very strongly.

The baby very well could have been badly hurt during this and the nurses should have known that.

When I see an adult lift up a toddler by their arms, I cringe.

The arms comes out of the socket and it hurts like hell for the child to have it put back in.

That has happened to my niece and also, even though I told my sons mother about it, my son as well.

His mother told me she doesn't listen to what as I say as a defense for pulling out his arm.
 
Tarred and feathered
 
Mason66 said:
It is not the dignity.

The babies arms are not fused with the shoulder very strongly.

The baby very well could have been badly hurt during this and the nurses should have known that.

When I see an adult lift up a toddler by their arms, I cringe.

The arms comes out of the socket and it hurts like hell for the child to have it put back in.

That has happened to my niece and also, even though I told my sons mother about it, my son as well.

His mother told me she doesn't listen to what as I say as a defense for pulling out his arm.
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Does she listen now??
 
Mason66 said:
It is not the dignity.

The babies arms are not fused with the shoulder very strongly.

The baby very well could have been badly hurt during this and the nurses should have known that.

When I see an adult lift up a toddler by their arms, I cringe.

The arms comes out of the socket and it hurts like hell for the child to have it put back in.

That has happened to my niece and also, even though I told my sons mother about it, my son as well.

His mother told me she doesn't listen to what as I say as a defense for pulling out his arm.
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As a father of 2 and a grandfather of 3....I know this. ;)
 
DiAnna said:
The baby's head wasn't being supported, which could have lead to severe neck/spine problems; the infant was hooked to an IV, which isn't standard for healthy newborns, so I presume this particular baby was being treated for a health issue. Just a thoroughly rough, abusive manner of handling a newborn infant.
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If that is so, it might be that harm was done. That would be a reason to prosecute. But it wasn't the way the thing has been argued here or in the article.
 
Cephus said:
They should be terminated but nothing else needs to happen. They've effectively ended their own careers, nobody is going to hire them after what they've done.
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You'd be surprised at what kind of people healthcare facilities will hire. This hospital doesn't appear to do background checks. Or at least not thorough ones.

David Kwiatkowski gets 39 years for causing hepatitis C outbreak - CNN

"Before moving to New Hampshire, Kwiatkowski worked as a traveling medical technician for hospitals in Arizona, Georgia, Kansas, Maryland, Michigan, New York and Pennsylvania, officials in those states said.
Kwiatkowski was fired from an Arizona hospital in 2010 after a fellow employee found him passed out in the men's room with a syringe floating in the toilet, according to documents obtained by CNN. A spokeswoman for the Arizona Heart Hospital said Kwiatkowski was immediately fired, and he relinquished his license as a radiologic technologist."
 
Taking videos of babies and posting them is a direct violation of patient privacy laws, dancing with babies as such is medically negligent and is definitely not practicing nursing with the patient's best intent in mind. I'd say criminal charges and disciplinary action by the board of nursing is merited. Anyone genuinely harmed should sue.
 
They should be fired barred from working as nurses ever again. She wasn't even supporting the baby's head. Her flipping off the baby also causes concern for her treatment of the children. This is very disturbing.
 
joG said:
If that is so, it might be that harm was done. That would be a reason to prosecute. But it wasn't the way the thing has been argued here or in the article.
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I didn't vote to prosecute at this point; however, it may be weeks, months, before any damage becomes apparent in the development process. Not to mention, the infant might have to be subjected to Xrays, CT scans or MRIs to determine if indeed there was damage.

This was a reckless, dangerous act against a completely helpless and vulnerable newborn infant. If I was the baby's mother, I'd be beside myself with fear and anger for the future well-being of my child.

Immediate firing and loss of nursing license is the very least that should happen.
 
RetiredUSN said:
They might be civilian nurses? Time will tell.
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From the article

'We have identified the staff members involved. They have been removed from patient care and they will be handled by the legal system and military justice."



Which is what led me to believe...
 
DiAnna said:
I didn't vote to prosecute at this point; however, it may be weeks, months, before any damage becomes apparent in the development process. Not to mention, the infant might have to be subjected to Xrays, CT scans or MRIs to determine if indeed there was damage.

This was a reckless, dangerous act against a completely helpless and vulnerable newborn infant. If I was the baby's mother, I'd be beside myself with fear and anger for the future well-being of my child.

Immediate firing and loss of nursing license is the very least that should happen.
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Was it really? The head didn't seem yhe whiplash or anything. But I'll look again.
 
ChezC3 said:
From the article

'We have identified the staff members involved. They have been removed from patient care and they will be handled by the legal system and military justice."



Which is what led me to believe...
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Military justice can dismiss nurses in a hospital as they are hired and fired by the military. If there is a corpseman on the forum, they could better explain it than I can

Like I said, we will have to wait it out and see.

If they are military.......they are toast.

Big Chicken Dinner....as we call it. Or reassigned to bullcrap duty for the rest of their enlistments.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Military justice can dismiss nurses in a hospital as they are hired and fired by the military. If there is a corpseman on the forum, they could better explain it than I can

Like I said, we will have to wait it out and see.

If they are military.......they are toast.

Big Chicken Dinner....as we call it. Or reassigned to bullcrap duty for the rest of their enlistments.
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Last I checked civilians are not subject to UCMJ.

as "we" call it eh? You must have been a part of that kinder, gentler Navy...:lol:
 
ChezC3 said:
Last I checked civilians are not subject to UCMJ.

as "we" call it eh? You must have been a part of that kinder, gentler Navy...:lol:
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The nurses work for the military and are under a military commander at the hospitals.

They can be fired by them.................the UCMJ has nothing to do with it.....................and it has nothing to do with being gentle.
 
RetiredUSN said:
The nurses work for the military and are under a military commander at the hospitals.

They can be fired by them.................the UCMJ has nothing to do with it.....................and it has nothing to do with being gentle.
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Being fired isn't what I was referring to, obviously. No ****. And this last part, reveals much...


OFW...
 
graeme104 said:
They should be fired barred from working as nurses ever again. She wasn't even supporting the baby's head. Her flipping off the baby also causes concern for her treatment of the children. This is very disturbing.
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I don't know about the treatment of the children, but it surely shows her attitude towards the babies.
 
I could see this resulting in a General Discharge, possibly OTH.
 
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