What do you think white privilege is? (even it you dont believe in it)

White privilege occurs at the job interview when the interviewer(s) actually look at you and listen to you.

1 comes the closest, but lacks sufficient perspicacity. I think white privilege means that for any white person A and non-white person B, when A and B are in similar circumstances, A is much more likely to find life in this country easier than B will find life in this country.

Note that all parts of this statement are important--it does not say that there are no white people who have it hard. Nor does it say that there are no black, Hispanic, Indian, or Asian people who aren't wealthy or who don't have a life of ease. It definitely does not say that white people are evil.

AGENT J said:

Seems theres confusion on what white privilege actually is so Im curious what people think it is. Even if you dont think its real explain what you think it is.
I only have 10 options, so that means im going to run out but ill put the most common 10 ive read and just add more if people want to comment,

What do you think white privilege is? (even it you dont believe in it)

1 .) Is it a claim that all white people have it easy or easier 2 .) is it a claim that no white people are poor 3 .) is it a claim that successful white people only have success because they are white 4 .) Is it a claim that all black people never have it easy or easier 5 .) is it a claim that poor black people are only poor because they are black 6 .) is it a claim that there are no successful black people 7 .) is it a claim that black people can not be successful because they are black 8 .) is it a claim that black people should have no personal responsibility 9 .) is it a claim all white people are racist, should have guilt and or give reparations 10 .) none of the above is it a claim that blacks should just be given free passes is it a claim hard work doesn’t matter is it a claim morals and attitude don’t matter is it a claim culture doesn’t matter and so many more

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None of the above. It's perplexing what some people claim it is and the lengths they go to argue against those same made up descriptions.

Captain Adverse said:

Clearly (from the options offered) I find #1 to be the closest approximation of the SJW Progressive-Left idea.

If you are White (especially a White male) that mere fact puts you at the top of the social privilege list. At least according to the current SJW narrative.

White males not only have White Privilege, they are also gifted with the power of the Patriarchy.

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^^^This^^^

LaylaWindu said:

None of the above. It's perplexing what some people claim it is and the lengths they go to argue against those same made up descriptions.

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I agree :shrug: Ill never get it but it doesnt matter reality remains. At least things are getting better.

Of course, then there's this:

Study: Most Minorities Have Experienced Little To No Discrimination In America
The Left likes to promulgate the notion that white supremacy is rampant in America and is a major barrier to minorities advancing in society. That narrative has been skewered by a recent study showing that most minorities have experienced little to no discrimination in America.

A group of researchers conducted interviews of minorities at four different parts of their lives asking them about how often they experienced "perceived discrimination" and what they attributed that discrimination to. The result: 75% of minorities surveyed claimed the frequency of discrimination was in the "never" or "rarely ever" categories.

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If that's the case, it would seem to make a mockery of the leftist 'White Privilege', divisive identity politics, meme.

I suspect those of the left will attack this, rather than considering it seriously, as it runs counter to their political aims, political power, and political narrative.

AGENT J said:

Seems theres confusion on what white privilege actually is so Im curious what people think it is. Even if you dont think its real explain what you think it is.
I only have 10 options, so that means im going to run out but ill put the most common 10 ive read and just add more if people want to comment,

What do you think white privilege is? (even it you dont believe in it)

1 .) Is it a claim that all white people have it easy or easier 2 .) is it a claim that no white people are poor 3 .) is it a claim that successful white people only have success because they are white 4 .) Is it a claim that all black people never have it easy or easier 5 .) is it a claim that poor black people are only poor because they are black 6 .) is it a claim that there are no successful black people 7 .) is it a claim that black people can not be successful because they are black 8 .) is it a claim that black people should have no personal responsibility 9 .) is it a claim all white people are racist, should have guilt and or give reparations 10 .) none of the above is it a claim that blacks should just be given free passes is it a claim hard work doesn’t matter is it a claim morals and attitude don’t matter is it a claim culture doesn’t matter and so many more

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I voted numbers

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Captain Adverse said:

Clearly (from the options offered) I find #1 to be the closest approximation of the SJW Progressive-Left idea.

If you are White (especially a White male) that mere fact puts you at the top of the social privilege list. At least according to the current SJW narrative.

White males not only have White Privilege, they are also gifted with the power of the Patriarchy.

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Mmm...almost. If I were so bold as to correct your statement, I would say "If you are White (especially a White male) that mere fact puts you at the top of the social privilege list *when compared to any other demographic in exactly the same circumstances. Yes, there are poor white people...but they have an easier go of it, statistically, than poor people of other demographics, because "at least they're still white".

Bodhisattva said:

I voted numbers

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What up Bodhi!, seems you missed some or there was a glitch . .it doesnt show you voting for all.

AGENT J said:

What up Bodhi!, seems you missed some or there was a glitch . .it doesnt show you voting for all.

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Those were the only ones I thought applied...

Bodhisattva said:

Those were the only ones I thought applied...

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LOL, my mistake I read it wrong. i THOUGHT you said you voted 1-9 and when i looked you didnt so I was confused.

AGENT J said:

LOL, my mistake I read it wrong. i THOUGHT you said you voted 1-9 and when i looked you didnt so I was confused.

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Confusing others is a pleasant outcome for me.. but not my goal.

Bodhisattva said:

Confusing others is a pleasant outcome for me.. but not my goal.

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LOL Bodhi . . .its me . . that very much is your goal at time and its funny

Manc Skipper said:

It also applies in other areas of the criminal justice system, in employment, and in life in general. Western society has a positive racial bias to whiteness.

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I believe it is less about a positive racial bias to whiteness and more of a negative bias towards black and in some cases Hispanic people. I agree that black people in the US (can't speak for other western societies) are generally at a disadvantage, however I disagree with the concept of white privilege since there are other ethnic and cultural groups have many of those same advantages. For instance, Asians pretty much enjoy the same benefits many use as examples of "white privilege" and often exceed even white people in those advantages.

In my opinion, the only real privilege is economic privilege.

Whatever it is, I have never seen it defined by (real) academia. That is to say by quantifiable observation, with evidence for links between cause and effect.
There is no definition in any serious dictionary, and the Wikipedia article is a bunch of hooey.

At the moment it can be generously described as an unsubstantiated and rather simplistic, but popular hypothesis.
It would be quite simple to define however. You could simply describe South Africa under Apartheid and draw parallels to similar cultural and legal institutions in other societies.
Which makes one question why it hasn't been done.

Watch the video clip, tis interesting.

Child Slavery & The Myth of White Privilege - Vertigo Politix -

AGENT J said:

Seems theres confusion on what white privilege actually is so Im curious what people think it is. Even if you dont think its real explain what you think it is.

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To me, white privilege is more like economic privilege with a tinge of systematic racism. And what I mean by that, boils down to "It's not what you know, it's who you know." Because of segregation not to long ago, some people still see white communities as separate from minority communities. These people don't necessarily hate those communities that differ from their own, they just see them as inherently different. And that affects how they associate with those communities. And leaves some of them vulnerable to policies like the War on Drugs.

I have a great job, I'm good at my job, I did not advance in my job because I'm good at it. I advanced because the regional director that controls three states worth of territory, and I went to the same fraternity. My fraternity doesn't exclude minority members, it just doesn't get a lot of minority pledges, because minorities favor minority fraternities. No one designed it this way, it just happened this way. The college I went to was diverse, and accepted me on merit, and the scholarship I obtained was on merit and available to anyone that met the criteria in the state I lived in and funded by the lottery. But overwhelmingly, those that received that scholarship in my state were white upper middle class students that had access to better schools that were funded by white upper middle class people. Minorities that lived in these school districts performed just as well as white students and were rewarded just as I was. Where as schools in poverty stricken areas did not receive hardly any funding from the community they reside in had worse performance and less graduates that qualified. But here's the thing, some of those underfunded schools in poverty stricken areas were completely white. Most were in minority communities. In both cases, students underperformed and were not rewarded with the scholarship. Now here's where the systematic racism kicks in. It's a well established fact that the war on drugs was kicked off to target minority communities, research Nixon, Goldwater, The Southern Strategy and Reagan's efforts to escalate the war on drugs for profit. If you continuously target and arrest members of a community, make it hard for those members to contribute after the arrest. The community as a whole suffers from the lack of their contribution. Children grow up without fathers or mothers, businesses suffer from residents unable to get jobs and have the ability to afford their goods. Left with no other alternative because of the stigma of being a felon, many turn to crime. Which brings their community down even further. Which leads to harsher treatment from law enforcement, and so forth and so on. And then you find yourself in a situation where an officer in one community discovers a youth with drugs, and arrests them because there is little hope they will make something of themselves anyway. And another officer in a nicer community finds a youth with drugs and does not, because he knows it could ruin their life. And it doesn't matter if the poor community is a white community or a minority community. If the youth is white or a minority. But because of something that happened decades ago, it is more likely that the youth is a minority in a minority community. And that the youth in the nicer community is white in a white community. And this will continue to be the case as long as the war on drugs continues, as it is the root of systemic racism in this country keeping our communities divided, it self perpetuates and favors those who had a head start. Drug use happens at the same rate no matter what color you are. The police target poor white communities trapped in cycle with just as much aggression as the minority communities. It's only the economically privileged, that are given passes.

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ThoughtEx. said:

Cont from part 1.

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My parents were criminals, who sold poison, and could afford a nice place in a nice community. They were terrible people, actual racists with ties to Neo Nazis and the KKK. But they were never the target of LE, because of location, and how they presented themselves to the community. They dressed conservatively, went to church, volunteered, didn't have tattoos, didn't waive nazi flags, supported law enforcement, heck our direct next door neighbor was the sheriff. By day they were upstanding citizens. But at night, they spouted hate, intimidated minorities that moved into the neighborhood, sold poison to fund their lifestyle and further their cause. They would have never seen a jail cell if they hadn't abused my brother to the point he stole their drugs and turned them into the police. When the police finished their investigation, they found that my parents controlled a drug empire that spanned three states and employed over 120 people. That they were responsible for murders, lynching, fixing elections, and extensive property damage. Most in our community were shocked to find out. But because they were decent people, in a decent community they were always above suspicion. Because of their adamant support of the war on drugs, of law enforcement, they were allowed to operate for three decades unmolested. And every time the drug laws got harsher, their prices went up and they laughed as more minorities went to jail for simple possession of the poison they sold them.

And because of the money they made, I went to a nice school, got a great education, and was able to join a fraternity, which got me advancement in my career. In no sense of the word, do I deserve to be where I am at. But yet here I am. And that is why I vehemently oppose the drug war, the police's obsession with poor communities being criminal communities, and economic policy that punishes the poor. Because I know, I know, that if you fix those issues, people like my parents can't survive, they can't thrive, they can't profit from selling poison to people, and they can't get away with murder.

You will never get a more honest answer as to what white privilege is. Or why it's falsely called white privilege.

ThoughtEx. said:

My parents were criminals, who sold poison, and could afford a nice place in a nice community. They were terrible people, actual racists with ties to Neo Nazis and the KKK. But they were never the target of LE, because of location, and how they presented themselves to the community. They dressed conservatively, went to church, volunteered, didn't have tattoos, didn't waive nazi flags, supported law enforcement, heck our direct next door neighbor was the sheriff. By day they were upstanding citizens. But at night, they spouted hate, intimidated minorities that moved into the neighborhood, sold poison to fund their lifestyle and further their cause. They would have never seen a jail cell if they hadn't abused my brother to the point he stole their drugs and turned them into the police. When the police finished their investigation, they found that my parents controlled a drug empire that spanned three states and employed over 120 people. That they were responsible for murders, lynching, fixing elections, and extensive property damage. Most in our community were shocked to find out. But because they were decent people, in a decent community they were always above suspicion. Because of their adamant support of the war on drugs, of law enforcement, they were allowed to operate for three decades unmolested. And every time the drug laws got harsher, their prices went up and they laughed as more minorities went to jail for simple possession of the poison they sold them.

And because of the money they made, I went to a nice school, got a great education, and was able to join a fraternity, which got me advancement in my career. In no sense of the word, do I deserve to be where I am at. But yet here I am. And that is why I vehemently oppose the drug war, the police's obsession with poor communities being criminal communities, and economic policy that punishes the poor. Because I know, I know, that if you fix those issues, people like my parents can't survive, they can't thrive, they can't profit from selling poison to people, and they can't get away with murder.

You will never get a more honest answer as to what white privilege is. Or why it's falsely called white privilege.

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That's a pretty wild story man, but definitely spot on with the description of white privilege. Thanks for sharing. I'd be interested in reading more about your parents, are you willing to share a link to a news article or would you rather keep that private? (Totally understandable if that's the case)

ThoughtEx. said:

My parents were criminals, who sold poison, and could afford a nice place in a nice community. They were terrible people, actual racists with ties to Neo Nazis and the KKK. But they were never the target of LE, because of location, and how they presented themselves to the community. They dressed conservatively, went to church, volunteered, didn't have tattoos, didn't waive nazi flags, supported law enforcement, heck our direct next door neighbor was the sheriff. By day they were upstanding citizens. But at night, they spouted hate, intimidated minorities that moved into the neighborhood, sold poison to fund their lifestyle and further their cause. They would have never seen a jail cell if they hadn't abused my brother to the point he stole their drugs and turned them into the police. When the police finished their investigation, they found that my parents controlled a drug empire that spanned three states and employed over 120 people. That they were responsible for murders, lynching, fixing elections, and extensive property damage. Most in our community were shocked to find out. But because they were decent people, in a decent community they were always above suspicion. Because of their adamant support of the war on drugs, of law enforcement, they were allowed to operate for three decades unmolested. And every time the drug laws got harsher, their prices went up and they laughed as more minorities went to jail for simple possession of the poison they sold them.

And because of the money they made, I went to a nice school, got a great education, and was able to join a fraternity, which got me advancement in my career. In no sense of the word, do I deserve to be where I am at. But yet here I am. And that is why I vehemently oppose the drug war, the police's obsession with poor communities being criminal communities, and economic policy that punishes the poor. Because I know, I know, that if you fix those issues, people like my parents can't survive, they can't thrive, they can't profit from selling poison to people, and they can't get away with murder.

You will never get a more honest answer as to what white privilege is. Or why it's falsely called white privilege.

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Thank you. Very well explained and honest post. You have definitely given me pause on a couple of views (or misconceptions) I have.

Lord Tammerlain said:

When it comes to being stopped by police in the US as part of "random" checks, being white is better than being Hispanic or Black. That is not a narrative, but something backed up by statistics. I expect that if the police were to issue the stats regarding traffic offenses, the stats would be similar

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That is correct when it comes to verbal harassment, manhandling, or arrests.

However, when it comes to being shot - officers are more likely to shoot a white suspect than a black one.

ThoughtEx. said:

My parents were criminals, who sold poison, and could afford a nice place in a nice community. They were terrible people, actual racists with ties to Neo Nazis and the KKK. But they were never the target of LE, because of location, and how they presented themselves to the community. They dressed conservatively, went to church, volunteered, didn't have tattoos, didn't waive nazi flags, supported law enforcement, heck our direct next door neighbor was the sheriff. By day they were upstanding citizens. But at night, they spouted hate, intimidated minorities that moved into the neighborhood, sold poison to fund their lifestyle and further their cause. They would have never seen a jail cell if they hadn't abused my brother to the point he stole their drugs and turned them into the police. When the police finished their investigation, they found that my parents controlled a drug empire that spanned three states and employed over 120 people. That they were responsible for murders, lynching, fixing elections, and extensive property damage. Most in our community were shocked to find out. But because they were decent people, in a decent community they were always above suspicion. Because of their adamant support of the war on drugs, of law enforcement, they were allowed to operate for three decades unmolested. And every time the drug laws got harsher, their prices went up and they laughed as more minorities went to jail for simple possession of the poison they sold them.

And because of the money they made, I went to a nice school, got a great education, and was able to join a fraternity, which got me advancement in my career. In no sense of the word, do I deserve to be where I am at. But yet here I am. And that is why I vehemently oppose the drug war, the police's obsession with poor communities being criminal communities, and economic policy that punishes the poor. Because I know, I know, that if you fix those issues, people like my parents can't survive, they can't thrive, they can't profit from selling poison to people, and they can't get away with murder.

You will never get a more honest answer as to what white privilege is. Or why it's falsely called white privilege.

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Appearances are everything. Your parents concealed their activities - but - being white didn't give them that ability -- being smart did. My family works in law enforcement and the vast majority of white drug dealers are low-lifes. They dress poorly, draw attention to themselves, etc.

AGENT J said:

Seems theres confusion on what white privilege actually is so Im curious what people think it is. Even if you dont think its real explain what you think it is.
I only have 10 options, so that means im going to run out but ill put the most common 10 ive read and just add more if people want to comment,

What do you think white privilege is? (even it you dont believe in it)

White privilege is a recycled term the Democratic party invented back in the days of slavery, which justified white Democrats owning slaves. The have recorded this old song with a new beat trying to pin this onto the party of President Lincoln, so they can stay below the radar.

One can see this in the observation of Democrats trying to remove statues of Democrats like General Lee, while making an irrational association for their base, to modern Republicans, a though these are statures of Republicans.

1 .) Is it a claim that all white people have it easy or easier 2 .) is it a claim that no white people are poor 3 .) is it a claim that successful white people only have success because they are white 4 .) Is it a claim that all black people never have it easy or easier 5 .) is it a claim that poor black people are only poor because they are black 6 .) is it a claim that there are no successful black people 7 .) is it a claim that black people can not be successful because they are black 8 .) is it a claim that black people should have no personal responsibility 9 .) is it a claim all white people are racist, should have guilt and or give reparations 10 .) none of the above is it a claim that blacks should just be given free passes is it a claim hard work doesn’t matter is it a claim morals and attitude don’t matter is it a claim culture doesn’t matter and so many more

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The term white privilege dates back to the time of slavey and segregation. It had to do with the attitude of the original Democrats, who justified the owning of slaves and who felt that had the right to segregate them after they were free. These Democrats saw themselves as above the blacks, with a semi-divine power of kings.

Rather than face up to their shady past, the Democrats are trying to rebrand this term onto the party of Lincoln who did none of these things, but rather fought for equality for blacks. This rebranding is evident in the protests over the rebel flag and statues of southern civil war heroes. The bottom line is all of which were Democrats or connected to the Democrat party. It is a revisionist history scam that the Democratic base thinks belongs to the Republicans. Their base is not very smart since they are governed by emotions instead of rational thinking

As far as I know, the Democratic party, who owned the slaves and were responsible for segregation laws, never made direct restitution. What they have attempted to do is spread out their party's sins and obligation, onto those who helped the slaves. White privilege is now being rebounded with a broad pen, that is designed to obscure the differences between the slave owning Democrats, and the pay forward works of the Republicans.

How about quotas laws for the blacks, where only white Democrats have to participate as the bottom dog. They can pay back the original sins of their party. The party of Lincoln has already paid forward with hundred of thousands of live and countless acts of unity. They have no further obligation until the Democrats catch up.

RabidAlpaca said:

That's a pretty wild story man, but definitely spot on with the description of white privilege. Thanks for sharing. I'd be interested in reading more about your parents, are you willing to share a link to a news article or would you rather keep that private? (Totally understandable if that's the case)

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I'd rather not identify myself, sorry. Nazi's protect their own, neither me or my brother can go home, and we have to sporadically deal with harassment as it is. And if I'm being honest, I don't trust everyone on this board to read that story, and find out my name and troll me in real life. Certain people's rhetoric is a bit to close to home, if you know what I mean.

White privilege is having the dice always loaded in your favour, either knowingly, or unwittingly. It's built into society so deeply that many of the privileged are unaware of it, because it's "normal"