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Poll: Majority says prejudice in US has increased since Trump's election

Has the level of hatred and prejudice in the US increased or decreased under Trump?


  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
I would argue that people become non-racists at a far greater rate than people become racist.
Really? I think that is a mathematical impossibility, since if we are not born racist, but have to become racist through learning, with or without a teacher....and then become non-racist, those that become non-racist (who had switched to begin with) would have to outnumber those who became racist in the first place. That is an impossibility.
 
You think Trump standing there making comments or when he Tweets something... is "teaching"?
I think I just said "I don't think that is the only way people become racist"....but yes, his saying that does give license for greater levels of racism, and people DO learn by example...or at least I have had teachers tell me so.

Good thing teachers know what teaching actually comprises of... and it isn't giving your opinion on something, which is what Trump does.
I see, if a person gives an opinion, there is a mechanism that automatically does not allow those that hear it to believe it . I'm so glad we have you around to clarify that opinions are always automatically rejected by everyone.
 
Really? I think that is a mathematical impossibility, since if we are not born racist, but have to become racist through learning, with or without a teacher....and then become non-racist, those that become non-racist (who had switched to begin with) would have to outnumber those who became racist in the first place. That is an impossibility.

You don't understand my point because you are taking it out of context... not my problem.

I think I just said "I don't think that is the only way people become racist"....but yes, his saying that does give license for greater levels of racism, and people DO learn by example...or at least I have had teachers tell me so.

Again... taking it out of context. I already said, if the person has an IQ of a squirrel... meaning a stupid person or an easily impressionable on. Intelligent people do not just accept a whole new philosophy based off a what some guy you never met says in an opinion. I never said nothing is possible. Dude, you are gonna do it again... leave me wondering why I even bothered, huh?

I see, if a person gives an opinion, there is a mechanism that automatically does not allow those that hear it to believe it . I'm so glad we have you around to clarify that opinions are always automatically rejected by everyone.

Jesus ****ing Christ...

And he didn't say it was not understandable... he said you didn't understand it.

This basic non-comprehension of concepts is a serious issue that you have. What you tell me your teacher taught you and what they actually probably tried to teach you are probably vastly different things.
 
You don't understand my point because you are taking it out of context... not my problem.
There is no point, you created a mathematical impossibility. If you want to show your work, go for it.



Again... taking it out of context. I already said, if the person has an IQ of a squirrel... meaning a stupid person or an easily impressionable on. Intelligent people do not just accept a whole new philosophy based off a what some guy you never met says in an opinion.
"Intelligent" people generally DO NOT BECOME RACIST. That again is backed through research, but that isn't the point. The point is people do learn to be racist.
I never said nothing is possible.
?
Good fer you....I guess.
Dude, you are gonna do it again... leave me wondering why I even bothered, huh?
I always wonder why you open your "mouth", post utterly unbelievable things, admit that racism is a learned process....and then start backtracking with whiny comment about something being taken out of context.


Jesus ****ing Christ...

And he didn't say it was not understandable... he said you didn't understand it.
JFC...indeed, we are not discussing whut BD said, this is you and I discussing whether racism is learned or inherent. You admit it is learned, and yet now you want to argue that opinions are not learned, cannot be transferred from one to another....as if opinions have some special characteristics that stop their being transferred.

This basic non-comprehension of concepts is a serious issue that you have.
You have not shown what I am supposedly not comprehending.
What you tell me your teacher taught you and what they actually probably tried to teach you are probably vastly different things.
That is not an argument, that is an ad hom. The point still is, racism is learned.
 
exactly

and those nutters are already lost. We may have people now feeling empowered to br vocal about either based on fear or their kind getting smaller or the perception that there are many like them and they are right lol but theres no bran new racists popping up and growing at any abnormal amount. lol

Exactly.

Im not concerned about the.... roughly 6000 active white supremacists.

Im more concerned about the 40,000 people who showed up in Boston to counter-protest a free speech rally, which had a migrant from India speaking about conservative issues surrounded by "Black Lives DO Matter" signs. Those people heard a false narrative that Nazis were going to show up and without bothering to research themselves decided to come use their 1st amendment rights to protest the 1st amendment.

The definition of what exactly constitutes a "Nazi" is getting larger and larger by the day. Antifa already believes any veteran or active duty military member, police officer, Trump supporter, Capitalist, Libertarian, conservative, or American Flag waving person is a "Fascist".
 
There is no point, you created a mathematical impossibility. If you want to show your work, go for it.



"Intelligent" people generally DO NOT BECOME RACIST. That again is backed through research, but that isn't the point. The point is people do learn to be racist. ?
Good fer you....I guess.I always wonder why you open your "mouth", post utterly unbelievable things, admit that racism is a learned process....and then start backtracking with whiny comment about something being taken out of context.


JFC...indeed, we are not discussing whut BD said, this is you and I discussing whether racism is learned or inherent. You admit it is learned, and yet now you want to argue that opinions are not learned, cannot be transferred from one to another....as if opinions have some special characteristics that stop their being transferred.

You have not shown what I am supposedly not comprehending. That is not an argument, that is an ad hom. The point still is, racism is learned.

I am talking about people becoming more prejudiced or racist under Trump's Presidency.

Nope. You are making some dumb argument that Trump stating an opinion is teaching. If you think a person stating an opinion is teaching I can't do anything to help you with that. If you think that a person stating an opinion is influential enough to cause prejudice in the United States to rise... well, again... I can't help you.

Every cultural concept is learned for humans... Trump can say stupid racists things til he is blue in the face... that will not turn anybody racist that is not already stupid or that has mental or emotional issues.

If your argument is something other than a counter to what I am saying then you need state it explicitly... if it is counter to what I AM saying then.. well, I can't help you.
 
Hatred seems to look for an opportunity to express itself.
 
I am talking about people becoming more prejudiced or racist under Trump's Presidency.

Nope. You are making some dumb argument that Trump stating an opinion is teaching. If you think a person stating an opinion is teaching I can't do anything to help you with that. If you think that a person stating an opinion is influential enough to cause prejudice in the United States to rise... well, again... I can't help you.

Every cultural concept is learned for humans... Trump can say stupid racists things til he is blue in the face... that will not turn anybody racist that is not already stupid or that has mental or emotional issues.

If your argument is something other than a counter to what I am saying then you need state it explicitly... if it is counter to what I AM saying then.. well, I can't help you.

Non idiots know that people are set in their ways, almost always we change slowly....Trumps been on the scene for 2 years, not long enough to have much of an effect on who people are.

Now has he allowed those who were being suppressed a voice that they did not have before....that is a yes.

The people who were supposed to shut up a die, and had been told multiple times, but rebelled.

"NOT WELCOME IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY"

"YOU THINK WRONG!"
 
Yes...absolutely.....I 100% believe Trump validates it and for that reason alone there is a level of hatefulness spreading across America like I've not seen or experienced in my lifetime....IMO...groups like KKK, neo-nazi, white supremacist, etc. feel their brand of hatred is now welcomed in America (after all, they have the president's support) so they no longer have to practice hate behind closed doors, secret meetings, internet websites, etc. or mind their hateful tongues when out in public.
 
I am talking about people becoming more prejudiced or racist under Trump's Presidency.
That is whut the thread is about, but I was speaking to the broader point, and you know it.

Nope. You are making some dumb argument that Trump stating an opinion is teaching.
Nope, my kiwi resident, you want to try to play down the effect of influence. He IS an influential element, or perhaps being on the other side of the Earth shielded you from what has happened in the US of A.
If you think a person stating an opinion is teaching I can't do anything to help you with that.
Again, somehow you are claiming that humans automatically are not influenced by rhetoric.
If you think that a person stating an opinion is influential enough to cause prejudice in the United States to rise... well, again... I can't help you.
I think I'm not the one requiring "help". I think a "teacher", like yourself is fully aware of how authority figures influence.

Every cultural concept is learned for humans...
Opinion, rhetoric...are, contain, concepts. To argue they cannot influence, as you just did, is a really strange thing for a teacher like yourself to state as fact.
Trump can say stupid racists things til he is blue in the face... that will not turn anybody racist that is not already stupid or that has mental or emotional issues.
Again with the false premise, the changing of the argument. The argument is can he cause an increase in racism, ie racist expression. Clearly, he can.

If your argument is something other than a counter to what I am saying then you need state it explicitly... if it is counter to what I AM saying then.. well, I can't help you.
After all of our exchanges, trust me, yer way down on the list of folks I would ever ask for help
 
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